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Disappeared and Abducted Children and Young Adults => Madeleine McCann (3) disappeared from her parent's holiday apartment at Ocean Club, Praia da Luz, Portugal on 3 May 2007. No trace of her has ever been found. => Topic started by: stephen25000 on August 16, 2013, 08:58:36 AM
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"Not sure how I feel about seeing Mr Amaral – for the first time ever, I hasten to add! I know I’m not scared but that man has caused us so much upset and anger because of how he has treated my beautiful Madeleine and the search to find her. He deserves to be miserable and feel fear."
As Amaral obviously never met Madeleine, how can she state the above ?
It lacks rational thought, yet she was prepared to 'forgive' an abductor.
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I imagine that Amaral writing a book to make some cash out of this sad case might not have helped.
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I imagine that Amaral writing a book to make some cash out of this sad case might not have helped.
How exactly does that relate to
'....of how he has treated my beautiful Madeleine...' ?
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"Not sure how I feel about seeing Mr Amaral – for the first time ever, I hasten to add! I know I’m not scared but that man has caused us so much upset and anger because of how he has treated my beautiful Madeleine and the search to find her. He deserves to be miserable and feel fear."
As Amaral obviously never met Madeleine, how can she state the above ?
It lacks rational thought, yet she was prepared to 'forgive' an abductor.
Have any anti McCann's ever met the McCann's? Yet they spew hatred all the time.
I can understand why Kate said this. Kate was going to meet the man for the first time [unbelievably] who had accused her of faking an abduction and hiding the body of her precious daughter. Then going on to write a book about it, spreading it world wide, then bringing out a video to add to it.
What sort of pain and fear do you think he caused the McCann's?
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"Not sure how I feel about seeing Mr Amaral – for the first time ever, I hasten to add! I know I’m not scared but that man has caused us so much upset and anger because of how he has treated my beautiful Madeleine and the search to find her. He deserves to be miserable and feel fear."
As Amaral obviously never met Madeleine, how can she state the above ?
It lacks rational thought, yet she was prepared to 'forgive' an abductor.
Why don't you quote the source of your post? Not the bit from Kate's book, but the two sentences I have highlighted. It's a direct lift from Blacksmith's latest piece of prejudiced rubbish.
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Against the forum rules too Stephen, isn't that so John?
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That apart, I am really not sure what your problem is, Stephen.
Amaral's job was to investigate the disappearance of her daughter. He seemed rathe rmore interested in proving his thesis that is was her parents wot dunnit. And having failed on both both counts he then took the unique step of publishing a book about it, and making a tv documentary, accusing her parents of being involved.
Worse, in my book, he gave the reason for doing this as "defending his honour". So, he could not even be honest about his motives.
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That apart, I am really not sure what your problem is, Stephen.
Amaral's job was to investigate the disappearance of her daughter. He seemed rathe rmore interested in proving his thesis that is was her parents wot dunnit. And having failed on both both counts he then took the unique step of publishing a book about it, and making a tv documentary, accusing her parents of being involved.
Worse, in my book, he gave the reason for doing this as "defending his honour". So, he could not even be honest about his motives.
Have you evidence of this ?
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"Not sure how I feel about seeing Mr Amaral – for the first time ever, I hasten to add! I know I’m not scared but that man has caused us so much upset and anger because of how he has treated my beautiful Madeleine and the search to find her. He deserves to be miserable and feel fear."
As Amaral obviously never met Madeleine, how can she state the above ?
It lacks rational thought, yet she was prepared to 'forgive' an abductor.
I'm amazed the editor didn't suppress a passage that betrays worrying disturbance of thought.
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Try reading his "thesis" Anne. And watch his excruciating documentary.
Which is, in a nutshell, that the McCanns overdosed Madeleine with calpol, she died in the apartment and they hid her body, apparently in a freezer and subsequently moved her in the hire car.
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Try reading his "thesis" Anne. And watch his excruciating documentary.
Which is, in a nutshell, that the McCanns overdosed Madeleine with calpol, she died in the apartment and they hid her body, apparently in a freezer and subsequently moved her in the hire car.
I read it, but I fail to understand how this hypothesis suggests he's "more interested in proving his thesis that is was her parents wot dunnit."
I suspect, among other scenarios of what happened to Madeleine, the twins got valium or another benzodiazepin to erase their memory, Madeleine died in the flat and her body was disposed of in a radical way on the same night. Am I obsessed with "who dunnit" ?
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I read it, but I fail to understand how this hypothesis suggests he's "more interested in proving his thesis that is was her parents wot dunnit."
I suspect, among other scenarios of what happened to Madeleine, the twins got valium or another benzodiazepin to erase their memory, Madeleine died in the flat and her body was disposed of in a radical way on the same night. Am I obsessed with "who dunnit" ?
Bl^^dy Hell Anne.
Fancy having that accusation thrown at you ... and in permanent form ... for the World to see for ever more. Obviously claiming the Mccanns Dunit .... and also were prepared to "erase" the twins memory.
What monster would make such accusations?
But that's OK with you, is it?
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I assume you have some evidence for making those allegations Anne?
In fact, you dont really matter at all. I assume you not planning on making a pile of cash out of accusing a couple of grieving parents.
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Why don't you quote the source of your post? Not the bit from Kate's book, but the two sentences I have highlighted. It's a direct lift from Blacksmith's latest piece of prejudiced rubbish.
Sorry to disappoint you, but the sentences you highlighted are mine, not Blacksmith's.
Are you accusing me of being Blacksmith ?
Meanwhile the original quote is from km, is it not ?
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"Not sure how I feel about seeing Mr Amaral – for the first time ever, I hasten to add! I know I’m not scared but that man has caused us so much upset and anger because of how he has treated my beautiful Madeleine and the search to find her. He deserves to be miserable and feel fear."
As Amaral obviously never met Madeleine, how can she state the above ?
It lacks rational thought, yet she was prepared to 'forgive' an abductor.
Its called context...take a sentence out of it and it changes the whole meaning.
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I assume you have some evidence for making those allegations Anne?
In fact, you dont really matter at all. I assume you not planning on making a pile of cash out of accusing a couple of grieving parents.
I don't intend to accuse anyone, it's not in my role. I'm just speculating on the basis of a kids' sleep that amazed many people including a doctor, Mrs Payne, then on Eddie's alerts and finally on the fact Madeleine seems to have disappeared for good though no car was used by whoever carried her out of the flat.
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Try reading his "thesis" Anne. And watch his excruciating documentary.
Which is, in a nutshell, that the McCanns overdosed Madeleine with calpol, she died in the apartment and they hid her body, apparently in a freezer and subsequently moved her in the hire car.
Which is, in a nutshell, that the McCanns overdosed Madeleine with calpol, ...
Two words missing, there: " the sleeping solution calpol" ...
Otherwise, yes!
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I don't intend to accuse anyone, it's not in my role. I'm just speculating on the basis of a kids' sleep that amazed many people including a doctor, Mrs Payne, then on Eddie's alerts and finally on the fact Madeleine seems to have disappeared for good though no car was used by whoever carried her out of the flat.
I take it by that comment, your were there?
I think you would be quite pleased if Madeleine is never found, am I right?
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Which is, in a nutshell, that the McCanns overdosed Madeleine with calpol, ...
Two words missing, there: " the sleeping solution calpol" ...
Otherwise, yes!
Shame he didn't look Calpol up before he sprouted those words. It was not a sleeping solution! Didn't he use the term "Calpol night"? Which wasn't even available!
Our Ref: XXXXXX-Letter
Date: XXXX 2009
Dear Madam/Sir
Thank you for your recent enquiry concerning Calpol Infant Suspension (120mg paracetamol per 5ml).
Calpol Infant Suspension contains paracetamol which is used to relieve pain and reduce fever. As you rightly point out, it does not have sedative properties. We are keen to ensure that consumers understand how to use all of our products correctly. In the case of Calpol, we ensure clear messages in our advertising to ensure correct usage. The product also contains clear instructions for use on the box and within the enclosed patient information leaflet.
Thank you for your concern regarding the reputation of our product and the suggestion that we contact Mr Amaral. We will give your suggestion due consideration.
Yours sincerely
Johnson & Johnson Ltd
XXXXXX XXXXXXXX BSc (Hons)
Medical Information Officer
Professional Information Ltd
on behalf of Johnson & Johnson Ltd
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Shame he didn't look Calpol up before he sprouted those words. It was not a sleeping solution! Didn't he use the term "Calpol night"? Which wasn't even available!
He did use the term calpol night, and in a way that, certainly by English law, would have been libel.
He said that in recent years, there has been great controversy over a drug with a sedative, calpol night.
Whilst he stopped (just) short of saying Madeleine had been given calpol night, the unwary reader might have been drawn into that conclusion, which I think, was pretty much the idea.
By UK law, that would be libel.
Portuguese law may be different, though ...
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I take it by that comment, your were there?
I think you would be quite pleased if Madeleine is never found, am I right?
Argumentum ad hominem judging nobody but yourself.
Why should you use your car to leave PDL in a hurry, instead of wandering around exhibiting the child you stole ?
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Argumentum ad hominem judging nobody but yourself.
Why should you use your car to leave PDL in a hurry, instead of wandering around exhibiting the child you stole ?
I have No idea, but you seem to have!
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You have an idea about why Humpty Dumpty had a great fall. Or don't you ?
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You have an idea about why Humpty Dumpty had a great fall. Or don't you ?
Yes, like someone else we know, will be having a great fall, and its not humpty dumpty@)(++(*
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It seems you don't know. If you did you would know why the carrier walked.
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It seems you don't know. If you did you would know why the carrier walked.
Spit it out, instead of talking in riddles, Anne. You either know nothing or are just making a fool of yourself 8((()*/
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As you like it !
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As you like it !
Measure for measure Anne, if you think that Amaral is not going to have a great fall then you are in a mid-summer night's dream! @)(++(*
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Measure for measure Anne, if you think that Amaral is not going to have a great fall then you are in a mid-summer night's dream! @)(++(*
8@??)( @)(++(*
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Much ado about nothing.
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Much ado about nothing.
You have to admit that the PJ investigation was a comedy of errors though...
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All the world's a stage..