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Disappeared and Abducted Children and Young Adults => Madeleine McCann (3) disappeared from her parent's holiday apartment at Ocean Club, Praia da Luz, Portugal on 3 May 2007. No trace of her has ever been found. => Topic started by: faithlilly on August 24, 2013, 07:19:26 PM

Title: If You Were SY Which Witness Would You Wish To Question Again ?
Post by: faithlilly on August 24, 2013, 07:19:26 PM
It seems SY will be re-interviewing several witnesses that have already been interviewed by the PJ. Which witness's evidence do you feel needs clarification and how do you feel it would move the case on ?
Title: Re: If You Were SY Which Witness Would You Wish To Question Again ?
Post by: Rachel Granada on August 24, 2013, 10:16:14 PM
It seems SY will be re-interviewing several witnesses that have already been interviewed by the PJ. Which witness's evidence do you feel needs clarification and how do you feel it would move the case on ?

Huh?  I think only the Yard could answer this question? 


Or are you trying to insinuate that Kate and Gerry McCann and the holiday party have "questions to answer".

They have been ruled out.  Deal with it.
Title: Re: If You Were SY Which Witness Would You Wish To Question Again ?
Post by: Chinagirl on August 24, 2013, 10:24:21 PM
Useless speculation.  Far better to leave it to Scotland Yard to "move the case on" - not anonymous amateurs on the internet.
Title: Re: If You Were SY Which Witness Would You Wish To Question Again ?
Post by: faithlilly on August 24, 2013, 10:33:07 PM
Huh?  I think only the Yard could answer this question? 


Or are you trying to insinuate that Kate and Gerry McCann and the holiday party have "questions to answer".

They have been ruled out.  Deal with it.

I'm not trying to insinuate anything. I am asking a perfectly valid question. I was you who mentioned the McCanns and friends, not me.
Title: Re: If You Were SY Which Witness Would You Wish To Question Again ?
Post by: Sherlock Holmes on August 24, 2013, 11:14:50 PM
I think this is a good question, Faithlilly.

Hypothetical questions are valuable.

I would like to see the Smith family re-interviewed. I think that there could be a lot more information there, if the Smiths were required to go over things again very thoroughly and in response, perhaps, to being presented with new questions based on information SY may now have.

The question of why bundleman was walking around with Madeleine at that time is a central part of our problem in determining the story behind Madeleine's disappearance. Even the tiniest new detail could help us build up a clearer picture of exactly what was going on at that stage of the evening, which might help narrow down the number of theories there are as to what kind of abduction it was. (Perhaps SY have got beyond determining this, though so far there doesn't seem to be much to suggest it. The Smiths could be helpful either way.)

Mr Smith seems to be quite a low-key person who does not want to court publicity in any way, and so the information he has given has been at a minimum, but there is a chance that he would have more to say if re-interviewed today.
Title: Re: If You Were SY Which Witness Would You Wish To Question Again ?
Post by: faithlilly on August 24, 2013, 11:25:18 PM
I think this is a good question, Faithlilly.

Hypothetical questions are valuable.

I would like to see the Smith family re-interviewed. I think that there could be a lot more information there, if the Smiths were required to go over things again very thoroughly and in response, perhaps, to being presented with new questions based on information SY may now have.

The question of why bundleman was walking around with Madeleine at that time is a central part of our problem in determining the story behind Madeleine's disappearance. Even the tiniest new detail could help us build up a clearer picture of exactly what was going on at that stage of the evening, which might help narrow down the number of theories there are as to what kind of abduction it was. (Perhaps SY have got beyond determining this, though so far there doesn't seem to be much to suggest it. The Smiths could be helpful either way.)

Mr Smith seems to be quite a low-key person who does not want to court publicity in any way, and so the information he has given has been at a minimum, but there is a chance that he would have more to say if re-interviewed today.

I also think persuading his wife to give a statement would also be helpful Sherlock, if simply to clarify her feelings with regard to her husband's identification of Gerry McCann.
Title: Re: If You Were SY Which Witness Would You Wish To Question Again ?
Post by: Sherlock Holmes on August 24, 2013, 11:28:10 PM
I also think persuading his wife to give a statement would also be helpful Sherlock, if simply to clarify her feelings with regard to her husband's identification of Gerry McCann.

Yes, that's another point
Title: Re: If You Were SY Which Witness Would You Wish To Question Again ?
Post by: Rachel Granada on August 24, 2013, 11:31:13 PM
Gerry McCann was in the Tapas bar at the time of the Smith sighting.

How many more times does that have to be said on this forum?
Title: Re: If You Were SY Which Witness Would You Wish To Question Again ?
Post by: faithlilly on August 24, 2013, 11:35:03 PM
Gerry McCann was in the Tapas bar at the time of the Smith sighting.

How many more times does that have to be said on this forum?

There are no independent witnesses to that fact.

If, however, Martin Smith's wife was willing to give a statement corroborating her husband's identification of Gerry  that would certainly strengthen his position.
Title: Re: If You Were SY Which Witness Would You Wish To Question Again ?
Post by: Lyall on August 24, 2013, 11:43:06 PM
Huh?  I think only the Yard could answer this question? 


Or are you trying to insinuate that Kate and Gerry McCann and the holiday party have "questions to answer".

They have been ruled out.  Deal with it.

Deal with it? Maybe when we've seen some evidence, but until then everything will still be discussed. That's how it works.

If the Met update had said the same thing you might have more of a point, but it didn't.



Title: Re: If You Were SY Which Witness Would You Wish To Question Again ?
Post by: Rachel Granada on August 24, 2013, 11:57:48 PM
Deal with it? Maybe when we've seen some evidence, but until then everything will still be discussed. That's how it works.

If the Met update had said the same thing you might have more of a point, but it didn't.

Yes, deal with it.  Kate and Gerry McCann are innocent.  There is not going to be police swoop, they are not going to be banged up abroad.
Title: Re: If You Were SY Which Witness Would You Wish To Question Again ?
Post by: faithlilly on August 25, 2013, 12:01:57 AM
Yes, deal with it.  Kate and Gerry McCann are innocent.  There is not going to be police swoop, they are not going to be banged up abroad.

But their child still has to be found.
Title: Re: If You Were SY Which Witness Would You Wish To Question Again ?
Post by: Lyall on August 25, 2013, 12:07:31 AM
I'm sure you're right about that Rachel, but until people have seen evidence they will not stop discussing all theories. You have to deal with that.

Title: Re: If You Were SY Which Witness Would You Wish To Question Again ?
Post by: Rachel Granada on August 25, 2013, 12:24:16 AM
I'm sure you're right about that Rachel, but until people have seen evidence they will not stop discussing all theories. You have to deal with that.


Evidence of what?  There is none.  They are innocent.

Deal with it.
Title: Re: If You Were SY Which Witness Would You Wish To Question Again ?
Post by: Lyall on August 25, 2013, 12:32:12 AM

Evidence of what?  There is none.  They are innocent.

Deal with it.

Portugal hadn't been able to definitively determine the nature of the crime committed by the time it suspended its investigation. If SY think they're now able to do that then they must have evidence.

That's the evidence I mean.
Title: Re: If You Were SY Which Witness Would You Wish To Question Again ?
Post by: Chinagirl on August 25, 2013, 01:36:35 AM
Certainly SY must have some evidence by now - of the crime of abduction, which they have stated they are currently investigating, but they aren't obliged to share it with the public.
Title: Re: If You Were SY Which Witness Would You Wish To Question Again ?
Post by: Lyall on August 25, 2013, 05:26:13 PM
Or they could just have been told the line to take in the investigation by their superiors.

The Prime Minister indicated in the Commons where his loyalty lies.

Could DCI Redwood really have said anything else in front of the cameras when Prime Minister and all other party leaders have already told the world what they think will be the conclusion of the investigation?
Title: Re: If You Were SY Which Witness Would You Wish To Question Again ?
Post by: AnneGuedes on August 25, 2013, 05:38:43 PM
Or they could just have been told the line to take in the investigation by their superiors.
There's some reason taking that line since it is the only one in which Madeleine could be alive.
The Portuguese did the same during about 3 months, they left aside the other lines, very politically incorrect, and only investigated an abduction. Unfortunately they were overwhelmed by hundreds of sightings, time and thinking consuming, they had to investigate and dismiss one by one.
At least SY hasn't that difficulty.
Title: Re: If You Were SY Which Witness Would You Wish To Question Again ?
Post by: sadie on August 25, 2013, 05:55:08 PM
There's some reason taking that line since it is the only one in which Madeleine could be alive.
The Portuguese did the same during about 3 months, they left aside the other lines, very politically incorrect, and only investigated an abduction. Unfortunately they were overwhelmed by hundreds of sightings, time and thinking consuming, they had to investigate and dismiss one by one.
At least SY hasn't that difficulty.
Rubbish Anne

Amaral has admitted that by the following day he had decided that Madeleine had died in 5A.

This has been gone over several times before .... and you are just wumming to obfusticate for some reason
Title: Re: If You Were SY Which Witness Would You Wish To Question Again ?
Post by: AnneGuedes on August 25, 2013, 06:35:53 PM
APENSOS V, Volume I, Supposed Sightings and Locations, pp. 1-252
APENSOS V, Volume II, Supposed Sightings and Locations, pp. 253-424
APENSOS V, Volume III, Supposed Sightings and Locations, pp. 432-586
APENSOS V, Volume IV, Supposed Sightings and Locations, pp. 661-899
APENSOS V, Volume V, Supposed Sightings and Locations, pp. 900-1160
APENSOS V, Volume VI, Supposed Sightings and Locations, pp. 1161-1426
APENSOS V, Volume VII, Supposed Sightings and Locations, pp. 1427-1679
APENSOS V, Volume VIII, Supposed Sightings and Locations, pp. 1680-1922
APENSOS V, Volume IX, Supposed Sightings and Locations, pp. 1923-2106
APENSOS V, Volume X, Supposed Sightings and Locations, pp. 2107-2353
APENSOS V, Volume XI, Supposed Sightings and Locations, pp. 2251-2534
APENSOS V, Volume XII, Supposed Sightings and Locations, pp. 2535-2749
APENSOS V, Volume XIII, Supposed Sightings and Locations, pp. 2750-2953
APENSOS V, Volume XIV, Supposed Sightings and Locations, pp.2954-3056
Title: Re: If You Were SY Which Witness Would You Wish To Question Again ?
Post by: faithlilly on August 27, 2013, 02:25:44 PM
Interesting snippet just posted by Kier Simmons on his Facebook page. Although the subject of his post was an upcoming book about the death of Diana, it may well be relevant to the McCann case :

'Scotland Yard is now investigating one claim, that a former commando told his mother in law that Diana had been killed. That suggests that the police believe there might be something in all this. But the truth is Scotland Yard has to scope out such a claim, or it leaves itself open to criticism. Detectives there have been criticized before for not investigating claims in high profile cases.'
Title: Re: If You Were SY Which Witness Would You Wish To Question Again ?
Post by: AnneGuedes on August 27, 2013, 03:02:17 PM
Do many people still believe that Lady Diana was the victim of a conspiracy ?
Title: Re: If You Were SY Which Witness Would You Wish To Question Again ?
Post by: faithlilly on August 27, 2013, 05:03:02 PM
Do many people still believe that Lady Diana was the victim of a conspiracy ?

Personally I never believed it.
Title: Re: If You Were SY Which Witness Would You Wish To Question Again ?
Post by: Luz on August 27, 2013, 05:11:28 PM
Huh?  I think only the Yard could answer this question? 


Or are you trying to insinuate that Kate and Gerry McCann and the holiday party have "questions to answer".

They have been ruled out.  Deal with it.


You wish...
In Portugal they haven't.
Title: Re: If You Were SY Which Witness Would You Wish To Question Again ?
Post by: Jean-Pierre on August 27, 2013, 05:15:41 PM
Do many people still believe that Lady Diana was the victim of a conspiracy ?

How many read the Daily Express?