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Alleged Miscarriages of Justice => Jeremy Bamber and the callous murder of his father, mother, sister and twin nephews. Case effectively CLOSED by CCRC on basis of NO APPEAL REFERRAL. => Topic started by: Admin on April 10, 2012, 02:52:12 PM
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People are beginning to come forward who have known Jeremy Bamber at different stages over the last 50 years. The latest being a guy who spent some two years with him on the same landing at HMP Full Sutton. He considers him to be truly guilty.
We will copy any information we get as and when it arrives.
He writes...
I was on the same wing as Bamber for over two years. He's guilty, nobody liked him, he's self-centred.
Bamber can be all things to all people, a wolf in sheep's clothing.
i studied journalism in prison surrounded by several infamous murderers. I made case studies on the them as practice.
https://twitter.com/#!/crimewriter1
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They are beginning to come out of the woodwork now.
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Steve posts...
I have heard him state: 'the witnesses are dead.' he's always known there is half a chance, as nobody can point the finger.
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As certain Bamber supporters have openly claimed that Simon McKay believes Jeremy Bamber to be innocent, we have made a direct approach to Mr McKay on Twitter this morning and asked him to confirm or deny his belief that Jeremy Bamber is innocent.
We are still waiting.
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As certain Bamber supporters have openly claimed that Simon McKay believes Jeremy Bamber to be innocent, we have made a direct approach to Mr McKay on Twitter this morning and asked him to confirm or deny his belief that Jeremy Bamber is innocent.
We are still waiting.
I wouldn't hold your breath admin. Jackie Preece knows nothing about Simon McKay except what little he chooses to share with her. McKay sees Bamber as a way to get attention, win or lose.
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As certain Bamber supporters have openly claimed that Simon McKay believes Jeremy Bamber to be innocent, we have made a direct approach to Mr McKay on Twitter this morning and asked him to confirm or deny his belief that Jeremy Bamber is innocent.
We are still waiting.
I wouldn't hold your breath admin. Jackie Preece knows nothing about Simon McKay except what little he chooses to share with her. McKay sees Bamber as a way to get attention, win or lose.
It would appear that he is getting slightly irritated with them if his tweet was anything to go by. Things are on the turn by the looks of it. I don't believe him having anything to do with Bambers case will do him any credit. I for one am not surprised that he reuses to answer you admin.
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McKay must rue the day he got involved with a mad woman like Preece. He should have done his homework. Won't do his credibility any good at all, and will doubtless come back to haunt him in the future.
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Interesting twitter comments there John .... nice work.
Personally I think McKay was/is in a no lose situation. No one expects him to do much for Bamber so no harm done if the CCRC don't refer. Plus he got his name known and his mug on ITV.
If he does manage to get Bamber to the C.o.A. he is not only a miracle worker with his stock on the rise he also has a high profile case to continue to boost his career and a lot of money from legal aid to pay his salary and fund any other off the wall tests he wants to have done.
I think Hartley is spot ion though; Bamber will be dropped by McKay like a bad habit if the CCRC kick him out.
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Nice to see Hartley back on form, running rings around the dullards. Not long to wait now for the good news. 8((()*/ 8((()*/
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McKay must rue the day he got involved with a mad woman like Preece. He should have done his homework. Won't do his credibility any good at all, and will doubtless come back to haunt him in the future.
i tok jacie som tye sweet chilly pringuls becus of waht mr invinctus sed abowt the angul grynda but she showted at me to *shit off ) i think jereneremeremeremy has hd som bad newws
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Interesting twitter comments there John .... nice work.
Personally I think McKay was/is in a no lose situation. No one expects him to do much for Bamber so no harm done if the CCRC don't refer. Plus he got his name known and his mug on ITV.
If he does manage to get Bamber to the C.o.A. he is not only a miracle worker with his stock on the rise he also has a high profile case to continue to boost his career and a lot of money from legal aid to pay his salary and fund any other off the wall tests he wants to have done.
I think Hartley is spot ion though; Bamber will be dropped by McKay like a bad habit if the CCRC kick him out.
I was surprised to see that Simon McKay is pretty much a one man band (well him and an assistant) to read his website you'd think McKay law was a large concern. There's only so much time such a small practice can give up free of charge - fee paying clients will take priority, I'm sure.
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Interesting twitter comments there John .... nice work.
Personally I think McKay was/is in a no lose situation. No one expects him to do much for Bamber so no harm done if the CCRC don't refer. Plus he got his name known and his mug on ITV.
If he does manage to get Bamber to the C.o.A. he is not only a miracle worker with his stock on the rise he also has a high profile case to continue to boost his career and a lot of money from legal aid to pay his salary and fund any other off the wall tests he wants to have done.
I think Hartley is spot ion though; Bamber will be dropped by McKay like a bad habit if the CCRC kick him out.
I was surprised to see that Simon McKay is pretty much a one man band (well him and an assistant) to read his website you'd think McKay law was a large concern. There's only so much time such a small practice can give up free of charge - fee paying clients will take priority, I'm sure.
I bet a high profile legal aid funded case like Bamber's would be quite a catch for a one man and his dog operation .... perhaps that's why SiMac got involved.
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Interesting twitter comments there John .... nice work.
Personally I think McKay was/is in a no lose situation. No one expects him to do much for Bamber so no harm done if the CCRC don't refer. Plus he got his name known and his mug on ITV.
If he does manage to get Bamber to the C.o.A. he is not only a miracle worker with his stock on the rise he also has a high profile case to continue to boost his career and a lot of money from legal aid to pay his salary and fund any other off the wall tests he wants to have done.
I think Hartley is spot ion though; Bamber will be dropped by McKay like a bad habit if the CCRC kick him out.
I was surprised to see that Simon McKay is pretty much a one man band (well him and an assistant) to read his website you'd think McKay law was a large concern. There's only so much time such a small practice can give up free of charge - fee paying clients will take priority, I'm sure.
He is certainly trying to distance himself from the Bamber groupies from what I have read. Writing on the wall???
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Campaign team Bamber have tweeted today that the Independent Police Complaints Commission (IPCC) have advised Jeremy that they have lost his complaints as they were in electronic form and became corrupt. Oh dear, we can feel yet another conspiracy theory gathering pace at Camp Bamber and Tesko Towers. ?>)()<
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Especially if they actually used the word "corrupt".
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Who cares if Mackay has his nose in the trough. Just like the rest of his crooked profession. That's what lawyers and coppers do.
As for the bird. Who cares what he has to say. Reformed eh? It suits when you fancy.
You've been plugging it like a stuck record and its more than desperate. Keep tweeting because its hilarious. You obviously don't have a day job. Yes and Mugford she is such a credible witness. Her 1985 statement is beyond laughable.
Boutflour and Eaton are hopefully browning their pants. Perverting the course of justice is a pretty serious offence.
It's clear you are in cahoots with them. Why else are you here? Are you working for them? If he does get out where do they stand with regard to the loot? And as for the conspiracy theory - re your latest tweet - I suggest you look up what the actual definition is. The whole thing is beyond stinks and it hums and you know it because your pants do.
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Who cares if Mackay has his nose in the trough. Just like the rest of his crooked profession. That's what lawyers and coppers do.
As for the bird. Who cares what he has to say. Reformed eh? It suits when you fancy.
You've been plugging it like a stuck record and its more than desperate. Keep tweeting because its hilarious. You obviously don't have a day job. Yes and Mugford she is such a credible witness. Her 1985 statement is beyond laughable.
Boutflour and Eaton are hopefully browning their pants. Perverting the course of justice is a pretty serious offence.
It's clear you are in cahoots with them. Why else are you here? Are you working for them? If he does get out where do they stand with regard to the loot? And as for the conspiracy theory - re your latest tweet - I suggest you look up what the actual definition is. The whole thing is beyond stinks and it hums and you know it because your pants do.
Another good night at the pub, then? You don't learn, do you? @)(++(*
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Who cares if Mackay has his nose in the trough. Just like the rest of his crooked profession. That's what lawyers and coppers do.
As for the bird. Who cares what he has to say. Reformed eh? It suits when you fancy.
You've been plugging it like a stuck record and its more than desperate. Keep tweeting because its hilarious. You obviously don't have a day job. Yes and Mugford she is such a credible witness. Her 1985 statement is beyond laughable.
Boutflour and Eaton are hopefully browning their pants. Perverting the course of justice is a pretty serious offence.
It's clear you are in cahoots with them. Why else are you here? Are you working for them? If he does get out where do they stand with regard to the loot? And as for the conspiracy theory - re your latest tweet - I suggest you look up what the actual definition is. The whole thing is beyond stinks and it hums and you know it because your pants do.
Another good night at the pub, then? You don't learn, do you? @)(++(*
Rochy, is that yoohoo? It aint Friday yet! @)(++(*
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Wait and see what he'll be like THIS Friday! 8((()*/
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Yeah its Rochy...on the sauce as usual....trying to get over my learning difficulties.
Just keep tweeting because it really warms the cockles of my heart. It's done with such candour and each one is so well articulated.
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Who cares if Mackay has his nose in the trough. Just like the rest of his crooked profession. That's what lawyers and coppers do.
As for the bird. Who cares what he has to say. Reformed eh? It suits when you fancy.
You've been plugging it like a stuck record and its more than desperate. Keep tweeting because its hilarious. You obviously don't have a day job. Yes and Mugford she is such a credible witness. Her 1985 statement is beyond laughable.
Boutflour and Eaton are hopefully browning their pants. Perverting the course of justice is a pretty serious offence.
It's clear you are in cahoots with them. Why else are you here? Are you working for them? If he does get out where do they stand with regard to the loot? And as for the conspiracy theory - re your latest tweet - I suggest you look up what the actual definition is. The whole thing is beyond stinks and it hums and you know it because your pants do.
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You don't seem a very happy chappy ....... come back Friday and we will see who is smiling! The only reason anyone here cares is because of the disgusting behaviour of the Child Killer Fan Club!
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By eckaslike, I've bin int Yorkshire Library all day, reading up on witches and the like, and now I'm reet knackered. Time for a nice barm cake, and a drop of whatever young Rochford has bin knocking back.
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Yes Tim, I love child murderers, peados, drug peddlers, vagrants, miscreants, vagabonds, cannibals etc.
I even bite the heads of new born puppies.
Carry on with your tabloidisms.
You know Murdoch ain't what he used to be.
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Yes Tim, I love child murderers, peados, drug peddlers, vagrants, miscreants, vagabonds, cannibals etc.
I even bite the heads of new born puppies.
Carry on with your tabloidisms.
You know Murdoch ain't what he used to be.
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Popcorn anyone?
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Yes Tim, I love child murderers, peados, drug peddlers, vagrants, miscreants, vagabonds, cannibals etc.
I even bite the heads of new born puppies.
Carry on with your tabloidisms.
You know Murdoch ain't what he used to be.
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That's so hurtful ... been crying in your beer all night in the Dolly Peel have ya Roachy! The difference between me and you Bamber kittens is that I don't have to hide to be brave ..,,,,. and we already know you love child murderers stupid! If this was a pub you wouldn't say boo to a goose would ya little fella!
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I'd prefer some cherries. But I think I'd need to pick them first.
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You're just so eloquent Tim. There must be a very lucky significant other. I'm so jealous.
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Yes Tim, I love child murderers, peados, drug peddlers, vagrants, miscreants, vagabonds, cannibals etc.
I even bite the heads of new born puppies.
Carry on with your tabloidisms.
You know Murdoch ain't what he used to be.
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Popcorn anyone?
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I have a crate in for Thursday Ama .... the party should be starting around midday!
I will send some waterwings over to Tesko Towers ... I predict a flood of tears!
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You hope but you're chancing it. Mother Fate holds the cards whether you will be partying on Friday - are you inviting Ann and Robert?
Just a little issue. That horrible Mr McKay - you know that fiduciary with the dodgy credit record - he has a habit of getting this sort of thing listened to in the courts. That child killer as you refer to him may even get bail. Now that would make good copy in the tabloids, however, in spite of your verbosity on these pages I doubt you will be making a contribution. You could always write to Theresa May. We all know what a politician of high integrity she is. Please don't tell me that you think she is wonderful. Nonetheless, you do have a habit of calling black white and viceversa.
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"The difference between me and you Bamber kittens is that I don't have to hide to be brave"
Like I said Tim on an another thread, I cannot possibly sign into this cesspit of a kangaroo court. Also after seeing what you do to people on Twitter and the way you libel and slander various people why would I? It's just plain abuse and to sign in here would be very stupid!!!"
You're like a Murdoch tabloid out of control but the difference is you are without the kudos, or legal backing. You can quote some bloated overweight ex copper who is brown nosing the establishment and trying to launch a career - Gladwell - but come on he's a bloated lightweight and is desperate to have the career that Williams-Thomas has...not that I'm a fan of him. He's an opportunist but much more part of the establishment than the wannavbee fatty from Lancs. Mckay though is part of the establishment and well connected and well established.
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You hope but you're chancing it. Mother Fate holds the cards whether you will be partying on Friday - are you inviting Ann and Robert?
Just a little issue. That horrible Mr McKay - you know that fiduciary with the dodgy credit record - he has a habit of getting this sort of thing listened to in the courts. That child killer as you refer to him may even get bail. Now that would make good copy in the tabloids, however, in spite of your verbosity on these pages I doubt you will be making a contribution. You could always write to Theresa May. We all know what a politician of high integrity she is. Please don't tell me that you think she is wonderful. Nonetheless, you do have a habit of calling black white and viceversa.
Wanna bet? @)(++(*
Impossible Aga Sagas and yet more police conspiracy mumbo jumbo with the hidden arrest of Julie is going to get Bamber nothing but a long slow Full Sutton death sentence ... exactly as justice demands!
The difference is little hiden mole, I want him in there for life because he is guilty! You want him out because you like his smile from 27 years ago ... you Bamberistas don't give a monkeys about the truth!
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Tim, after reading that I think you might need therapy. You're ver bitter why? Do you have something to lose?
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Tim, after reading that I think you might need therapy. You're ver bitter why? Do you have something to lose?
Ver bitter? Sorry I don't spreken de deutsch!
Are you related to Mertol perchance?
Stop hiding ... don't be ashamed!
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As for the truth Tim...I'm not sure you know what that is?
Is Julie's statement the truth?
What about the MP for Basingstoke, Andrew Hunter? Is he ac hancer too? Are his concerns not genuine? Check the Hansard record. It's funny you know there is an awful lot evidence that seriously discredits the propaganda on this website that you somehow gloss over. Yes Sheila had clean feet so you say, but photographs released apparently prove otherwise. Is the MP on the Hansard record a liar?
MPs like lawyers and coppers are not the most integral of people, but with MPs its usually party political matters they distort the truth about. Have you got any dirt on Hunter? We'll see on Friday if you're partying or not.
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As for the truth Tim...I'm not sure you know what that is?
Is Julie's statement the truth?
What about the MP for Basingstoke, Andrew Hunter? Is he ac hancer too? Are his concerns not genuine? Check the Hansard record. It's funny you know there is an awful lot evidence that seriously discredits the propaganda on this website that you somehow gloss over. Yes Sheila had clean feet so you say, but photographs released apparently prove otherwise. Is the MP on the Hansard record a liar?
MPs like lawyers and coppers are not the most integral of people, but with MPs its usually party political matters they distort the truth about. Have you got any dirt on Hunter? We'll see on Friday if you're partying or not.
What ever happened to Andrew Hunter? I think you maybe a little out of date ... he hasn't been an MP for 7 years now and it's longer than that since he openly supported Bamber!
Do I think was is a liar ... no, probably not ... he was just wrong. Seeing as he obviously no longer supports Bamber I imagine he saw the error of his ways.
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As for the truth Tim...I'm not sure you know what that is?
Is Julie's statement the truth?
What about the MP for Basingstoke, Andrew Hunter? Is he ac hancer too? Are his concerns not genuine? Check the Hansard record. It's funny you know there is an awful lot evidence that seriously discredits the propaganda on this website that you somehow gloss over. Yes Sheila had clean feet so you say, but photographs released apparently prove otherwise. Is the MP on the Hansard record a liar?
MPs like lawyers and coppers are not the most integral of people, but with MPs its usually party political matters they distort the truth about. Have you got any dirt on Hunter? We'll see on Friday if you're partying or not.
What ever happened to Andrew Hunter? I think you maybe a little out of date ... he hasn't been an MP for 7 years now and it's longer than that since he openly supported Bamber!
Do I think was is a liar ... no, probably not ... he was just wrong. Seeing as he obviously no longer supports Bamber I imagine he saw the error of his ways.
As a writer with many contacts I have it on good authority that Hunter has changed his view having seen more of the evidence. He and Woffinden and many others were initially taken in by Bamber's sob story but the common theme is that they all see the terrible truth in the end.
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As for the truth Tim...I'm not sure you know what that is?
Is Julie's statement the truth?
What about the MP for Basingstoke, Andrew Hunter? Is he ac hancer too? Are his concerns not genuine? Check the Hansard record. It's funny you know there is an awful lot evidence that seriously discredits the propaganda on this website that you somehow gloss over. Yes Sheila had clean feet so you say, but photographs released apparently prove otherwise. Is the MP on the Hansard record a liar?
MPs like lawyers and coppers are not the most integral of people, but with MPs its usually party political matters they distort the truth about. Have you got any dirt on Hunter? We'll see on Friday if you're partying or not.
What ever happened to Andrew Hunter? I think you maybe a little out of date ... he hasn't been an MP for 7 years now and it's longer than that since he openly supported Bamber!
Do I think was is a liar ... no, probably not ... he was just wrong. Seeing as he obviously no longer supports Bamber I imagine he saw the error of his ways.
As a writer with many contacts I have it on good authority that Hunter has changed his view having seen more of the evidence. He and Woffinden and many others were initially taken in by Bamber's sob story but the common theme is that they all see the terrible truth in the end.
Add Hunter to the list then .... so many have changed from innocent to guilty. Has anyone ever changed from guilty to innocent?
/I excliude utter morons like Mertol and Nugnug from the question ... they don't know what planet they live on!)
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We have engaged with Mark Williams-Thomas this morning and asked him about his claim in the ITV Tonight prog that Sheila Caffell was shot twice in the neck with a shotgun. He states the following in response.
@Justice_forum I have not re watched - yes is a rifle. This was clear for all that watched. Thanks
Still haven't worked out what that means?
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We have engaged with Mark Williams-Thomas this morning and asked him about his claim in the ITV Tonight prog that Sheila Caffell was shot twice in the neck with a shotgun. He states the following in response.
@Justice_forum I have not re watched - yes is a rifle. This was clear for all that watched. Thanks
Still haven't worked out what that means?
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Having watched the ITV programme again I don't think Mark Willams-Shotgun-Thomas is a Bamber supporter at all! Have you asked him if he knows that Simon McKay has two current IVA's and was found guilty of mishandling client fundsby the SRA?
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I don't believe he has an opinion either way as long as he is making big bucks as a TV front man.
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I don't believe he has an opinion either way as long as he is making big bucks as a TV front man.
Totally agree with you there Mark. He is just like the lawyers.......win or lose......they still pocket the case. I believe they call them true professionals although I could think of a few other adjectives for them.
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I want to share some more great news with you all.
Some of you will know that Talk Radio and others have been in touch re the Bamber case. Well today I have had a well known ITV reporter get in touch with me and he says our analysis of the Bamber case is excellent. This comes on top of the Sky News approach to me as well. Great work guys...let's not spoil it because of Preece and co.
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Brilliant news John, excellent.
Are they wanting some sort of interview?
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I want to share some more great news with you all.
Some of you will know that Talk Radio and others have been in touch re the Bamber case. Well today I have had a well known ITV reporter get in touch with me and he says our analysis of the Bamber case is excellent. This comes on top of the Sky News approach to me as well. Great work guys...let's not spoil it because of Preece and co.
That's good news John.
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Brilliant news John, excellent.
Are they wanting some sort of interview?
I have already done a couple for radio and provided some info as well. Will let you know about ITV after the week end.
I have also spoken to Julie so watch this space!!
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It looks like there will be good news all round very soon then...!
Well done John! You've worked hard!
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Ironic isn't it?? 8-)(--)
Jackie Preece is still wittering on about her law students and how effective they are. Well if that is the level of intelligence of her 'law students' I fear for the next generation of legal services in England. @)(++(*
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Ironic isn't it?? 8-)(--)
Jackie Preece is still wittering on about her law students and how effective they are. Well if that is the level of intelligence of her 'law students' I fear for the next generation of legal services in England. @)(++(*
Jackie Preece is riven with spite and jealousy. Her main aim is seeing me on my arse. But that won't happen. I don't want to tempt fate, but I have a husband who adores me, children who rock my world, and a tiny grandaughter who says "I love you my nanny!" And a field full of horses. What have you got, Jackie? A computer covered in spit and bile?
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Ironic isn't it?? 8-)(--)
Jackie Preece is still wittering on about her law students and how effective they are. Well if that is the level of intelligence of her 'law students' I fear for the next generation of legal services in England. @)(++(*
Jackie Preece is riven with spite and jealousy. Her main aim is seeing me on my ar... But that won't happen. I don't want to tempt fate, but I have a husband who adores me, children who rock my world, and a tiny grandaughter who says "I love you my nanny!" And a field full of horses. What have you got, Jackie? A computer covered in spit and bile?
She's got Ian the bodyguard and the Dobbin from the horse refuge. @)(++(*
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I hate to do this. When the twins were shot, there was so much blood, the wallpaper was removed. From behind their heads. They were little, and Sheila would have been covered in blood. But she wasn't. June's last shot, between the eyes. Still not a mark on Sheila.
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I hate to do this. When the twins were shot, there was so much blood, the wallpaper was removed. From behind their heads. They were little, and Sheila would have been covered in blood. But she wasn't. June's last shot, between the eyes. Still not a mark on Sheila.
You are spot on Shona. I think they call it spatter or something like that and there wasn't a drop on Sheila. If she had beaten Nevill with the butt of the rifle there would have been blood everywhere but mysteriously there wasn't any on her. Jeremy went home and showered though leaving blood marks on his bath towel and robe apparently.
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I hate to do this. When the twins were shot, there was so much blood, the wallpaper was removed. From behind their heads. They were little, and Sheila would have been covered in blood. But she wasn't. June's last shot, between the eyes. Still not a mark on Sheila.
You are spot on Shona. I think they call it spatter or something like that and there wasn't a drop on Sheila. If she had beaten Nevill with the butt of the rifle there would have been blood everywhere but mysteriously there wasn't any on her. Jeremy went home and showered though leaving blood marks on his bath towel and robe apparently.
Wow! The blood on the towel and robe is a new one. Where did you hear that?
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I hate to do this. When the twins were shot, there was so much blood, the wallpaper was removed. From behind their heads. They were little, and Sheila would have been covered in blood. But she wasn't. June's last shot, between the eyes. Still not a mark on Sheila.
You are spot on Shona. I think they call it spatter or something like that and there wasn't a drop on Sheila. If she had beaten Nevill with the butt of the rifle there would have been blood everywhere but mysteriously there wasn't any on her. Jeremy went home and showered though leaving blood marks on his bath towel and robe apparently.
Wow! The blood on the towel and robe is a new one. Where did you hear that?
Bounty is referring to the forensics results but it should be pointed out that the origin of this blood could not be determined. By the same token blood was also found on the passenger seat of the Citreon which was photgraphed at Jeremys cottage at Goldhanger with a SOCO examining it.