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Disappeared and Abducted Children and Young Adults => Madeleine McCann (3) disappeared from her parent's holiday apartment at Ocean Club, Praia da Luz, Portugal on 3 May 2007. No trace of her has ever been found. => Topic started by: misty on February 15, 2016, 12:00:25 AM

Title: Kate McCann believes Madeleine is still in the Algarve.
Post by: misty on February 15, 2016, 12:00:25 AM
The Sun headlines for Monday.
(Would someone do the techie honours for me please?)


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Title: Re: Kate McCann believes Madeleine is still in the Algarve.
Post by: pathfinder73 on February 15, 2016, 12:37:12 AM
Yeah hidden in the Algarve I agree with. SY must be too quiet for their liking.

Madeleine McCann's mum Kate believes her daughter is still alive in the Algarve

00:19, 15 FEB 2016 UPDATED 00:19, 15 FEB 2016
BY PAUL HOOPER

She is convinced Madeleine never went far from the Praia da Luz resort where she was snatched in 2007 - despite thousands of reported sightings of her around the world

Kate McCann has revealed she believes missing daughter Madeleine is still alive in the Algarve.

She is convinced Madeleine never went far from the Praia da Luz resort where she was snatched on May 3 2007 - despite thousands of reported sightings of her around the world.

Launching a campaign to get a million people to sign up for missing child alerts, Kate said: “Praia da Luz is where I feel closest to her.

“That’s where she last was and I don’t think she’s been taken a million miles from there.”

As well as the scores of apparent sightings , other theories on the tot’s disappearance include that she might have been rushed out of Portugal and sold to a childless couple.

But Kate, 47, said that her and husband Gerry’s years of research has taught them that kidnapped children are not usually taken far away.

“It’s all only speculation, but we’ve learned that’s usually the case,” she said.

Kate is heading up a two-week drive to get a million people in the UK to register for free Child Rescue Alerts (CRAs).

Read more: Madeleine's parents still place presents in her untouched room

The scheme, funded by the Royal Mail, sends appeals to phones, computers, and tablets when a child vanishes.

Kate thinks if the scheme had been around back in 2007 then Maddie, aged three at the time, may have been found within hours.

“It’s nearly nine years and that’s so ridiculous and so unbelievable,” she said.

“You think ‘gosh that could have been hours, or a day’.

“If enough people had been mobilised and galvanised early then who knows what the outcome would have been.”

With Maddie’s 13th birthday approaching in May, Kate said: “Nine years. Time just goes too quickly. It’s the quiet times that are tough.

Times when you are thinking about her - or something related to her.”

Despite Scotland Yard’s probe into Madeleine’s abduction being scaled down , her parents insist they will continue to search for her.

Kate said: “The urge to look for Madeleine absolutely hasn’t changed at all.

“You hear all the time about people who have been missing for years being found.

Read more: Kate and Gerry to launch new appeal to find daughter

“We will never give up. You couldn’t settle if you thought about giving up.

“I want an end, an answer. Whatever that is.”

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/madeleine-mccanns-mum-kate-believes-7372654
Title: Re: Kate McCann believes Madeleine is still in the Algarve.
Post by: Brietta on February 15, 2016, 12:57:31 AM
Yeah hidden in the Algarve I agree with. SY must be too quiet for their liking.

Madeleine McCann's mum Kate believes her daughter is still alive in the Algarve

00:19, 15 FEB 2016 UPDATED 00:19, 15 FEB 2016
BY PAUL HOOPER

She is convinced Madeleine never went far from the Praia da Luz resort where she was snatched in 2007 - despite thousands of reported sightings of her around the world

Kate McCann has revealed she believes missing daughter Madeleine is still alive in the Algarve.

She is convinced Madeleine never went far from the Praia da Luz resort where she was snatched on May 3 2007 - despite thousands of reported sightings of her around the world.

Launching a campaign to get a million people to sign up for missing child alerts, Kate said: “Praia da Luz is where I feel closest to her.

“That’s where she last was and I don’t think she’s been taken a million miles from there.”

As well as the scores of apparent sightings , other theories on the tot’s disappearance include that she might have been rushed out of Portugal and sold to a childless couple.

But Kate, 47, said that her and husband Gerry’s years of research has taught them that kidnapped children are not usually taken far away.

“It’s all only speculation, but we’ve learned that’s usually the case,” she said.

Kate is heading up a two-week drive to get a million people in the UK to register for free Child Rescue Alerts (CRAs).

Read more: Madeleine's parents still place presents in her untouched room

The scheme, funded by the Royal Mail, sends appeals to phones, computers, and tablets when a child vanishes.

Kate thinks if the scheme had been around back in 2007 then Maddie, aged three at the time, may have been found within hours.

“It’s nearly nine years and that’s so ridiculous and so unbelievable,” she said.

“You think ‘gosh that could have been hours, or a day’.

“If enough people had been mobilised and galvanised early then who knows what the outcome would have been.”

With Maddie’s 13th birthday approaching in May, Kate said: “Nine years. Time just goes too quickly. It’s the quiet times that are tough.

Times when you are thinking about her - or something related to her.”

Despite Scotland Yard’s probe into Madeleine’s abduction being scaled down , her parents insist they will continue to search for her.

Kate said: “The urge to look for Madeleine absolutely hasn’t changed at all.

“You hear all the time about people who have been missing for years being found.

Read more: Kate and Gerry to launch new appeal to find daughter

“We will never give up. You couldn’t settle if you thought about giving up.

“I want an end, an answer. Whatever that is.”

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/madeleine-mccanns-mum-kate-believes-7372654


To register and receive Child Rescue Alerts, text HERO and your postcode to 85080.

Only about six alerts per year are likely to be sent when police believe the life of a missing child is in immediate danger.

Registration costs a standard network text message rate.

It is free to sign up at www.childrescuealert.org.uk
Title: Re: Kate McCann believes Madeleine is still in the Algarve.
Post by: slartibartfast on February 15, 2016, 07:56:47 AM
Yeah hidden in the Algarve I agree with. SY must be too quiet for their liking.

Madeleine McCann's mum Kate believes her daughter is still alive in the Algarve

00:19, 15 FEB 2016 UPDATED 00:19, 15 FEB 2016
BY PAUL HOOPER

She is convinced Madeleine never went far from the Praia da Luz resort where she was snatched in 2007 - despite thousands of reported sightings of her around the world

Kate McCann has revealed she believes missing daughter Madeleine is still alive in the Algarve.

She is convinced Madeleine never went far from the Praia da Luz resort where she was snatched on May 3 2007 - despite thousands of reported sightings of her around the world.

Launching a campaign to get a million people to sign up for missing child alerts, Kate said: “Praia da Luz is where I feel closest to her.

“That’s where she last was and I don’t think she’s been taken a million miles from there.”

As well as the scores of apparent sightings , other theories on the tot’s disappearance include that she might have been rushed out of Portugal and sold to a childless couple.

But Kate, 47, said that her and husband Gerry’s years of research has taught them that kidnapped children are not usually taken far away.

“It’s all only speculation, but we’ve learned that’s usually the case,” she said.

Kate is heading up a two-week drive to get a million people in the UK to register for free Child Rescue Alerts (CRAs).

Read more: Madeleine's parents still place presents in her untouched room

The scheme, funded by the Royal Mail, sends appeals to phones, computers, and tablets when a child vanishes.

Kate thinks if the scheme had been around back in 2007 then Maddie, aged three at the time, may have been found within hours.

“It’s nearly nine years and that’s so ridiculous and so unbelievable,” she said.

“You think ‘gosh that could have been hours, or a day’.

“If enough people had been mobilised and galvanised early then who knows what the outcome would have been.”

With Maddie’s 13th birthday approaching in May, Kate said: “Nine years. Time just goes too quickly. It’s the quiet times that are tough.

Times when you are thinking about her - or something related to her.”

Despite Scotland Yard’s probe into Madeleine’s abduction being scaled down , her parents insist they will continue to search for her.

Kate said: “The urge to look for Madeleine absolutely hasn’t changed at all.

“You hear all the time about people who have been missing for years being found.

Read more: Kate and Gerry to launch new appeal to find daughter

“We will never give up. You couldn’t settle if you thought about giving up.

“I want an end, an answer. Whatever that is.”

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/madeleine-mccanns-mum-kate-believes-7372654

Some news must be due out....
Title: Re: Kate McCann believes Madeleine is still in the Algarve.
Post by: stephen25000 on February 15, 2016, 08:10:36 AM
Some news must be due out....

Indeed Slarti.

Dependent events.

An article comes our which is meaningless rehashed drivel, so something is in the wind, and not pig-meat.
Title: Re: Kate McCann believes Madeleine is still in the Algarve.
Post by: G-Unit on February 15, 2016, 11:10:20 AM
So the McCann's believe Madeleine is still in the Algarve. What possible difference could a child rescue alert have made in her case therefore? Half an hour after she was discovered missing people were out searching the town. The following day the world was informed by the media. Without needing to sign up to an alert system, everyone in the Algarve knew about the child by the following day. Being told by text the night before would have achieved nothing. Would all residents of the Algarve rushed out of their homes at midnight and started searching around? Of course not, they would have done what they did; keep their eyes open during the following days.
Title: Re: Kate McCann believes Madeleine is still in the Algarve.
Post by: Benice on February 15, 2016, 11:39:45 AM
So the McCann's believe Madeleine is still in the Algarve. What possible difference could a child rescue alert have made in her case therefore? Half an hour after she was discovered missing people were out searching the town. The following day the world was informed by the media. Without needing to sign up to an alert system, everyone in the Algarve knew about the child by the following day. Being told by text the night before would have achieved nothing. Would all residents of the Algarve rushed out of their homes at midnight and started searching around? Of course not, they would have done what they did; keep their eyes open during the following days.

How could you possibly know that?   There may have been people driving in the vicinity at that time -  who as a result of the alert -  would be able to keep an eye out for anything untoward happening on the roads.    Like a speeding car for instance? 



Title: Re: Kate McCann believes Madeleine is still in the Algarve.
Post by: jassi on February 15, 2016, 11:43:37 AM
So the McCann's believe Madeleine is still in the Algarve. What possible difference could a child rescue alert have made in her case therefore? Half an hour after she was discovered missing people were out searching the town. The following day the world was informed by the media. Without needing to sign up to an alert system, everyone in the Algarve knew about the child by the following day. Being told by text the night before would have achieved nothing. Would all residents of the Algarve rushed out of their homes at midnight and started searching around? Of course not, they would have done what they did; keep their eyes open during the following days.

I think you have to be signed up in order to receive these emails, so not much use if you haven't done so.
Title: Re: Kate McCann believes Madeleine is still in the Algarve.
Post by: Carana on February 15, 2016, 11:50:15 AM
I think you have to be signed up in order to receive these emails, so not much use if you haven't done so.

That seems to be the point of the campaign.
Title: Re: Kate McCann believes Madeleine is still in the Algarve.
Post by: sadie on February 15, 2016, 12:18:50 PM
So the McCann's believe Madeleine is still in the Algarve. What possible difference could a child rescue alert have made in her case therefore? Half an hour after she was discovered missing people were out searching the town. The following day the world was informed by the media. Without needing to sign up to an alert system, everyone in the Algarve knew about the child by the following day. Being told by text the night before would have achieved nothing. Would all residents of the Algarve rushed out of their homes at midnight and started searching around? Of course not, they would have done what they did; keep their eyes open during the following days.
Gunit you have badly let yourself down with that response.  I have always found you intelligent enough previously even if always refusing to see anything from the Mccann and Justice point of view.

To say, " What possible difference could a child rescue alert have made in her case therefore? Half an hour after she was discovered missing people were out searching the town." is not a thoughtful comment.

The golden hours are the couple of hours or so immediately after the event.  The abductor and Madeleine might still be in the vicinity, and MEMORIES ARE FRESH. 
 
How do you know that everyone knew about Madeleines disappearance immediately afterwards?  You dont.  I would like to bet that it was several days before some people knew.


It is more than quite possible that Madeleine had been moved to a neighbouring town , or en route somewhere at the time she was noticed missing. 


With an alert system, people would be aware and looking rather than simply seeing and it not registering.  Also it would have got more out and more people remembering events from the minutes before.


Title: Re: Kate McCann believes Madeleine is still in the Algarve.
Post by: sadie on February 15, 2016, 12:22:52 PM
Gunit you have badly let yourself down with that response.  I have always found you intelligent enough previously even if always refusing to see anything from the Mccann and Justice point of view.

To say, " What possible difference could a child rescue alert have made in her case therefore? Half an hour after she was discovered missing people were out searching the town." is not a thoughtful comment.

The golden hours are the couple of hours or so immediately after the event.  The abductor and Madeleine might still be in the vicinity, and MEMORIES ARE FRESH. 
 
How do you know that everyone knew about Madeleines disappearance immediately afterwards?  You dont.  I would like to bet that it was several days before some people knew.


It is more than quite possible that Madeleine had been moved to a neighbouring town , or en route somewhere at the time she was noticed missing. 


With an alert system, people would be aware and looking rather than simply seeing and it not registering.  Also it would have got more out and more people remembering events from the minutes before.

Bring on the alert system, lets get these barstewards caught and our children saved.



ALERT SYSTEM

BE AWARE !

LOOK ! .... RATHER THAN SEE, YET NOT REGISTER !
Title: Re: Kate McCann believes Madeleine is still in the Algarve.
Post by: Carana on February 15, 2016, 02:08:22 PM
There's no way of knowing whether a similar system might have helped in Madeleieine's case. It might certainly have improved the chances of someone spotting her possibly kilometres away shortly afterwards.

In any event, the alert could prove a lifesaver for numerous other children.
Title: Re: Kate McCann believes Madeleine is still in the Algarve.
Post by: G-Unit on February 15, 2016, 03:41:09 PM
Gunit you have badly let yourself down with that response.  I have always found you intelligent enough previously even if always refusing to see anything from the Mccann and Justice point of view.

To say, " What possible difference could a child rescue alert have made in her case therefore? Half an hour after she was discovered missing people were out searching the town." is not a thoughtful comment.

The golden hours are the couple of hours or so immediately after the event.  The abductor and Madeleine might still be in the vicinity, and MEMORIES ARE FRESH. 
 
How do you know that everyone knew about Madeleines disappearance immediately afterwards?  You dont.  I would like to bet that it was several days before some people knew.


It is more than quite possible that Madeleine had been moved to a neighbouring town , or en route somewhere at the time she was noticed missing. 


With an alert system, people would be aware and looking rather than simply seeing and it not registering.  Also it would have got more out and more people remembering events from the minutes before.

Thank you for the backhanded compliment Sadie.

If Madeleine was abducted it was between 9.15pm and 10.55pm. The police were called at 10.41pm and the GNR arrived at 11pm. Your couple of 'golden hours' are nearly gone now. Any alert would have been issued by the PJ, who arrived much later. I would say 2am at the earliest, if they thought it fulfilled the criteria, which I doubt. Only those who had signed up would get an alert. Most of them would have been asleep by then. The following day the TV, newspapers, etc were full of it. If you want to believe it could have made a difference, feel free, I do not.
Title: Re: Kate McCann believes Madeleine is still in the Algarve.
Post by: sadie on February 15, 2016, 03:41:57 PM
There's no way of knowing whether a similar system might have helped in Madeleieine's case. It might certainly have improved the chances of someone spotting her possibly kilometres away shortly afterwards.

In any event, the alert could prove a lifesaver for numerous other children.

Exactly  8((()*/
Title: Re: Kate McCann believes Madeleine is still in the Algarve.
Post by: sadie on February 15, 2016, 03:58:23 PM
Thank you for the backhanded compliment Sadie.

If Madeleine was abducted it was between 9.15pm and 10.55pm. The police were called at 10.41pm and the GNR arrived at 11pm. Your couple of 'golden hours' are nearly gone now. Any alert would have been issued by the PJ, who arrived much later. I would say 2am at the earliest, if they thought it fulfilled the criteria, which I doubt. Only those who had signed up would get an alert. Most of them would have been asleep by then. The following day the TV, newspapers, etc were full of it. If you want to believe it could have made a difference, feel free, I do not.
Madeleine was abducted between 9.35pm and 10.00pm

Matt ran to the receptionj and asked them to ring the police at 10.10pm - 10.15pm.  Reception messed up and it seems failed to ring the police until 10.41pm.            Hells bells! ....Approx 30 minutes wasted by reception!!!

Why not notify people who are signed up immediately the Police,[ what ever branch], are notified?

Grab those golden hours.


Given immediate action by reception, then as soon as they heard about it a simple alert could have been given out within five minutes, by 10.20pm.  Lots of people would have caught the message then ... and memories would be fresh. 

Many more would have turned out for the search and people along the route she travelled would have properly LOOKED out... registered anything they saw and notified the police [if they dared 8(8-))]
Title: Re: Kate McCann believes Madeleine is still in the Algarve.
Post by: Carana on February 15, 2016, 04:03:14 PM
Thank you for the backhanded compliment Sadie.

If Madeleine was abducted it was between 9.15pm and 10.55pm. The police were called at 10.41pm and the GNR arrived at 11pm. Your couple of 'golden hours' are nearly gone now. Any alert would have been issued by the PJ, who arrived much later. I would say 2am at the earliest, if they thought it fulfilled the criteria, which I doubt. Only those who had signed up would get an alert. Most of them would have been asleep by then. The following day the TV, newspapers, etc were full of it. If you want to believe it could have made a difference, feel free, I do not.


Yes and no.

The current alert system being promoted is for the UK, where the police can make decisions.

The situation is often more complicated in other countries, where different police forces may be involved, and any alert requires approval from a magistrate.

This doesn't seem to be just about potentially abducted toddlers - it could be a very drunk adolescent about to commit suicide somewhere in the vicinity.

Despite the bureaucratic complications, if an alert can be sent out quickly, not everyone will be asleep at even 2 am. Petrol station attendants, traffic police on motorways, those checking public cctv cameras, train / coach drivers, people who prefer to travel at night to avoid daytime traffic, people going home from a nightclub...
Title: Re: Kate McCann believes Madeleine is still in the Algarve.
Post by: G-Unit on February 15, 2016, 04:22:49 PM
Madeleine was abducted between 9.35pm and 10.00pm

Matt ran to the receptionj and asked them to ring the police at 10.10pm - 10.15pm.  Reception messed up and it seems failed to ring the police until 10.41pm.            Hells bells! ....Approx 30 minutes wasted by reception!!!

Why not notify people who are signed up immediately the Police,[ what ever branch], are notified?

Grab those golden hours.


Given immediate action by reception, then as soon as they heard about it a simple alert could have been given out within five minutes, by 10.20pm.  Lots of people would have caught the message then ... and memories would be fresh. 

Many more would have turned out for the search and people along the route she travelled would have properly LOOKED out... registered anything they saw and notified the police [if they dared 8(8-))]

The receptionist never mentioned seeing Matthew (twice; 10,10pm and again later) or Gerald although both are said to have gone there. He phoned when asked to by the Manager, John Hill.

The alerts in the UK are not issued when a phone call is received, so that's just wishful thinking/fantasy on your part.
Title: Re: Kate McCann believes Madeleine is still in the Algarve.
Post by: sadie on February 15, 2016, 04:59:49 PM
The receptionist never mentioned seeing Matthew (twice; 10,10pm and again later) or Gerald although both are said to have gone there. He phoned when asked to by the Manager, John Hill.

The alerts in the UK are not issued when a phone call is received, so that's just wishful thinking/fantasy on your part.
With such a major error, did they have tio cover their backs?

Had reception taken notice and done the right thing, who knows what the golden hours might have produced?

Especially had the Alert system been in effect.
Title: Re: Kate McCann believes Madeleine is still in the Algarve.
Post by: Alfred R Jones on February 15, 2016, 05:00:19 PM
So the McCann's believe Madeleine is still in the Algarve. What possible difference could a child rescue alert have made in her case therefore? Half an hour after she was discovered missing people were out searching the town. The following day the world was informed by the media. Without needing to sign up to an alert system, everyone in the Algarve knew about the child by the following day. Being told by text the night before would have achieved nothing. Would all residents of the Algarve rushed out of their homes at midnight and started searching around? Of course not, they would have done what they did; keep their eyes open during the following days.
What nonsense.  What evidence do you have that in less than 24 hours the whole of the Algarve knew that a little English girl was missing or what she looked like?
Title: Re: Kate McCann believes Madeleine is still in the Algarve.
Post by: G-Unit on February 15, 2016, 06:40:31 PM
With such a major error, did they have tio cover their backs?

Had reception taken notice and done the right thing, who knows what the golden hours might have produced?

Especially had the Alert system been in effect.

Why do you assume the receptionist was as fault? Do you have any evidence to support that assertion?
Title: Re: Kate McCann believes Madeleine is still in the Algarve.
Post by: Brietta on February 16, 2016, 02:43:42 PM
MORGAN: Do you both 100 percent believe she's still alive? Or do you have to believe that?

K. MCCANN: I don't think -- I don't think we can say 100 percent. I mean, you know, we're realistic. We know that there is a chance that she may not be alive. But what we do know is there's a very good chance that she's alive. And there's certainly nothing to suggest otherwise.

And as you know, as well as many children who are found years down the line, they could have been written off, you know. And then they were found. So it would be wrong -- you know, it is wrong to give up on children who are still missing.
http://archives.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1105/11/pmt.01.html


In the absence of any evidence whatsoever to the contrary ... Madeleine deserves the assumption that she is alive and may be recovered.  Until such time as Scotland Yard and the Policia Judiciaria come to the end of the leads they are presently following the investigation should continue unimpeded.
Title: Re: Kate McCann believes Madeleine is still in the Algarve.
Post by: G-Unit on February 16, 2016, 02:50:13 PM
MORGAN: Do you both 100 percent believe she's still alive? Or do you have to believe that?

K. MCCANN: I don't think -- I don't think we can say 100 percent. I mean, you know, we're realistic. We know that there is a chance that she may not be alive. But what we do know is there's a very good chance that she's alive. And there's certainly nothing to suggest otherwise.

And as you know, as well as many children who are found years down the line, they could have been written off, you know. And then they were found. So it would be wrong -- you know, it is wrong to give up on children who are still missing.
http://archives.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1105/11/pmt.01.html


In the absence of any evidence whatsoever to the contrary ... Madeleine deserves the assumption that she is alive and may be recovered.  Until such time as Scotland Yard and the Policia Judiciaria come to the end of the leads they are presently following the investigation should continue unimpeded.

There's no evidence that the child is dead, but there's things that suggest she is. Wrong word chosen.
Title: Re: Kate McCann believes Madeleine is still in the Algarve.
Post by: ShiningInLuz on February 16, 2016, 05:58:43 PM
What nonsense.  What evidence do you have that in less than 24 hours the whole of the Algarve knew that a little English girl was missing or what she looked like?
There is no evidence that 'the whole of the Algarve' knew...

There is no evidence that an Amber alert would have put the whole of the Algarve on lookout within 24 hours.

I wasn't here at the time of the incident.  I look at the news infrequently.  I have not signed up to the Amber alert scheme, in fact, I'm not sure that I have the facilities to do so.  Unless someone banged on my door, I probably wouldn't find out until later, but I am not in a prime location to intercept nefarious deeds in such an incident.

Who knows whether it would have made a difference or not?  Aside from whoever 'dunnit'?
Title: Re: Kate McCann believes Madeleine is still in the Algarve.
Post by: Alfred R Jones on February 16, 2016, 06:45:28 PM
There is no evidence that 'the whole of the Algarve' knew...

There is no evidence that an Amber alert would have put the whole of the Algarve on lookout within 24 hours.

I wasn't here at the time of the incident.  I look at the news infrequently.  I have not signed up to the Amber alert scheme, in fact, I'm not sure that I have the facilities to do so.  Unless someone banged on my door, I probably wouldn't find out until later, but I am not in a prime location to intercept nefarious deeds in such an incident.

Who knows whether it would have made a difference or not?  Aside from whoever 'dunnit'?
Not having it certainly wouldn't change anything, having it might, no guarantees, but surely something is better than nothing? 
Title: Re: Kate McCann believes Madeleine is still in the Algarve.
Post by: ShiningInLuz on February 16, 2016, 07:17:18 PM
Not having it certainly wouldn't change anything, having it might, no guarantees, but surely something is better than nothing?
Something always costs something, it does not come free.

I am not quite sure why this topic is haggling about a system that did not exist within Portugal at that time, and might or might not have made a difference.

It is roughly like me positing that if everyone on the Algarve had been taught A-level English, then it might or might not have made a difference.

Might.  Might not.  Relevance?
Title: Re: Kate McCann believes Madeleine is still in the Algarve.
Post by: Admin on February 18, 2016, 02:07:59 PM
I have reallocated the above posts to this new thread.

Admin
Title: Re: Kate McCann believes Madeleine is still in the Algarve.
Post by: Miss Taken Identity on February 18, 2016, 02:46:39 PM
MORGAN: Do you both 100 percent believe she's still alive? Or do you have to believe that?

K. MCCANN: I don't think -- I don't think we can say 100 percent. I mean, you know, we're realistic. We know that there is a chance that she may not be alive. But what we do know is there's a very good chance that she's alive. And there's certainly nothing to suggest otherwise.

And as you know, as well as many children who are found years down the line, they could have been written off, you know. And then they were found. So it would be wrong -- you know, it is wrong to give up on children who are still missing.
http://archives.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1105/11/pmt.01.html


In the absence of any evidence whatsoever to the contrary ... Madeleine deserves the assumption that she is alive and may be recovered.  Until such time as Scotland Yard and the Policia Judiciaria come to the end of the leads they are presently following the investigation should continue unimpeded.

Doctors were never any good at analysing their stats in fact they truly dread being held to account if the figures don't add up...So what we have is a situation to talk up what they 'believe' and what they want to believe to what the actual chances are- reading their analysis.

"We know that there is a chance that she may not be alive".
They are suggesting there is only ONE chance she may be dead ( not suggesting a belief- but seem to be stating from 'facts', information gathered, experience etc...

AND  THEN

"But what we do know is there's a very good chance that she's alive".

What do they know, and why is there  a very good chance of her being alive than being a very good chance of
her being dead?

There is a difference in both statements for a reason. Let's look at them saying I know there is a 50/50 chance of her being dead and same for being alive! seems acceptable for armatures,  what DO they know that would make them give a positive nay VERY positive statement saying what they do know is....

It is understandable for any parent of a missing child to not want them to be dead- in their heads they can create scenarios to comfort them. I would be exactly the same- shut out the nasty negative thoughts for my own personal confort, as  any truth in my child being brutally murdered/raped/tortured would be unbearable.

The problem I have with the McCanns is:  they make money from"The search for  Maddie being found" and if she is found dead having been tortured/raped/murdered then their halo would never sit right again...Hence why they are hated by so many people. And supporters try to mask this for their own agenda. Always chasing the story ,always protecting their reputation.

They can make believe what they like, but to try and sell their belief as statistically accurate is a bit too much for some.

And if they think their child is still in that place, why did they leave? and why not go back and actualy look for her themselves - with the tapas crew?