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Disappeared and Abducted Children and Young Adults => Madeleine McCann (3) disappeared from her parent's holiday apartment at Ocean Club, Praia da Luz, Portugal on 3 May 2007. No trace of her has ever been found. => Topic started by: jassi on March 15, 2016, 02:40:50 PM
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I expect this to be a short topic, but am curious to know what the 'high tea' that the children had at the Tapas consisted of. Anybody any idea?
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I expect this to be a short topic, but am curious to know what the 'high tea' that the children had at the Tapas consisted of. Anybody any idea?
I've never given it much thought. In my very much younger day high tea usually consisted of a light meal of sandwich and cake with a pot of tea. Posh establishments cut the crust off the bread.
Briget O'Donnel said ...
"The Mark Warner nannies brought the children to the Tapas restaurant to have tea at the end of each day. It was a friendly gathering. The parents would stand and chat by the pool. We talked about the children, about what we did at home. We were hopeful about a change in the weather. We eyed our children as they played. We didn't see anyone watching."
http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2007/dec/14/ukcrime.madeleinemccann
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Yes, me too. However this seems to have been the main meal of the day for the children, unless they had a cooked breakfast, or lunch. I've never seen any description of what was actually served.
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The obvious thing seems to be that the very small children were close to The Tapas, and the older children were walked over, where they were then Signed Out by whoever collected them.
Quite logically organised as far as I can see, and I cannot see a problem.
They probably had fish fingers and chips, or some sort of pasta.
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Would this service likely only be available to those who attended the afternoon creche session ?
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High Tea for Young Children Homemade lunches such as chicken or fish goujons, vegetable or meat pies, burgers and pasta
http://www.markwarner.co.uk/recruitment2/food-beverage/
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Would this service likely only be available to those who attended the afternoon creche session ?
The general arrangement seems to have been that children who attended the afternoon session would be escorted for high tea at the Tapas, unless the parents collected them earlier.
I'm not aware that the PJ ever asked whether any children who were absent for the afternoon session were then taken back solely for the high tea.
Only the records of the groups that the McCann children were in appear in the files.
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Would this service likely only be available to those who attended the afternoon creche session ?
I don't know, but an interesting, minor point. Probably not. Or perhaps they could go to The Millennium.
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The high teas are for children aged 4 months to 9 years of age. (2016)
That's nice, two hot meals each day.
I think every lunch, bar the Thursday, we had people in the apartment having lunch. Erm, and my mum generally was the sandwich maker, that was a bit of a joke for the week, she'd took it upon herself to do loads of shopping, erm, while we were sort of sailing and stuff, she, she'd go to the Supermarket and get loads of, loads of provisions in and she'd be making piles of baguettes and, erm, yeah, and everyone would generally descend on ours and demolish the lot. Erm, and, yeah, we just all mucked in to cook for the kids, we generally tried to give them a hot, a hot lunch and, you know, people would just donate whatever was in their apartment'.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/FIONA-PAYNE-ROGATORY.htm
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Breakfast and Dinner. Or High Tea, if you like.
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I don't know, but an interesting, minor point. Probably not. Or perhaps they could go to The Millennium.
I think all children of the right age group. All the Tapas group children went and only the McCanns and one O'Brien attended afternoon creches.
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Yes, me too. However this seems to have been the main meal of the day for the children, unless they had a cooked breakfast, or lunch. I've never seen any description of what was actually served.
It was possibly like the traditional Scottish High Tea of old. A wee fried haddie or plate meat pie followed by lots of sticky bun/cream cake type goodies.
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I think all children of the right age group. All the Tapas group children went and only the McCanns and one O'Brien attended afternoon creches.
So perhaps the Tapas group children, minus the McCanns of course, usually had their tea elsewhere, so missed the opportunity of meeting Madeleine.
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I think all children of the right age group. All the Tapas group children went and only the McCanns and one O'Brien attended afternoon creches.
But possibly some children wouldn't attend The Creche Sessions at all, and be elsewhere. And it was Half Board. Breakfast and Dinner. Dinner being the Evening Meal in this day and age.
I don't know how they worked it, but all of these children had to be fed somewhere.
I thought that the interesting logistic was that the really small children in creches were cared for as close as possible to The Taps because the older children were capable of walking.
This subject appears to be a minefield of what one might leave out of a Comment.
Where were any of these children signed out from. It was almost certainly The Tapas, after High Tea.
In our house High Tea was Tinned Salmon Sandwiches, when I was young. But it is just a term.
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So perhaps the Tapas group children, minus the McCanns of course, usually had their tea elsewhere, so missed the opportunity of meeting Madeleine.
Ah ... I see where you are coming from now ... must be getting slow in my old age.
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So perhaps the Tapas group children, minus the McCanns of course, usually had their tea elsewhere, so missed the opportunity of meeting Madeleine.
Erm, both Russell and Jane describe the high tea routine (although their child was collected before the nannies took them to the Tapas on the Thursday).
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I expect this to be a short topic, but am curious to know what the 'high tea' that the children had at the Tapas consisted of. Anybody any idea?
One dish was pasta and vegetables.
And they did chips.
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But possibly some children wouldn't attend The Creche Sessions at all, and be elsewhere. And it was Half Board. Breakfast and Dinner. Dinner being the Evening Meal in this day and age.
I don't know how they worked it, but all of these children had to be fed somewhere.
I thought that the interesting logistic was that the really small children in creches were cared for as close as possible to The Taps because the older children were capable of walking.
This subject appears to be a minefield of what one might leave out of a Comment.
Where were any of these children signed out from. It was almost certainly The Tapas, after High Tea.
In our house High Tea was Tinned Salmon Sandwiches, when I was young. But it is just a term.
Sunday tea was often tinned salmon in our house. I still prefer it to fresh or smoked ha ha.
The logic of the smaller children being nearest breaks down because the babies were above Main Reception and they were within the age range to have High Tea.
If the age range was the same as it is in 2016 it must have been mayhem at High Tea. Forty-eight Mark Warner children were eligible for the meal whether they attended the creches/clubs or not.
Mark Warner also provides meals for it's staff. Some of the nannys have mentioned eating at the Tapas after the children and before the guests.
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It was possibly like the traditional Scottish High Tea of old. A wee fried haddie or plate meat pie followed by lots of sticky bun/cream cake type goodies.
Our wee Haddie was boiled in milk! Buns were for rich folks we had strawberries hand picked from neighbours garden.
The kids could have dined before the parents at high tea and still have stayed with them when the parents ate... why did the parents not eat their dinnr at the same time. Our family always did.
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Our wee Haddie was boiled in milk! Buns were for rich folks we had strawberries hand picked from neighbours garden.
The kids could have dined before the parents at high tea and still have stayed with them when the parents ate... why did the parents not eat their dinnr at the same time. Our family always did.
It seems to be the way these days. Children eat different foods at different times to their parents. I used to find cooking one evening meal for everyone to be quite enough after a busy day.
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Our wee Haddie was boiled in milk! Buns were for rich folks we had strawberries hand picked from neighbours garden.
The kids could have dined before the parents at high tea and still have stayed with them when the parents ate... why did the parents not eat their dinnr at the same time. Our family always did.
It wasn't that sort of holiday .
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It seems to be the way these days. Children eat different foods at different times to their parents. I used to find cooking one evening meal for everyone to be quite enough after a busy day.
What time did Gerry arrive home from work?
Many people give their children their dinner earlier than they eat themselves, purely down to the fact that the father is home too late for the children to wait to have dinner with him.
Also many children have dinner at school and so just need a light meal during the evening.
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What time did Gerry arrive home from work?
Many people give their children their dinner earlier than they eat themselves, purely down to the fact that the father is home too late for the children to wait to have dinner with him.
Also many children have dinner at school and so just need a light meal during the evening.
When I had three children under 5 I took care of everyone from 7am to 7pm. Anyone who wasn't present had a meal kept warm. No way would I have extended my day beyond 7pm. Mine had school dinners; pizza, chips and jam doughnuts in their day. I put them on sandwiches when I learned what they were eating and cooked an evening meal for everyone.
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When I had three children under 5 I took care of everyone from 7am to 7pm. Anyone who wasn't present had a meal kept warm. No way would I have extended my day beyond 7pm. Mine had school dinners; pizza, chips and jam doughnuts in their day. I put them on sandwiches when I learned what they were eating and cooked an evening meal for everyone.
Well done
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When I had three children under 5 I took care of everyone from 7am to 7pm. Anyone who wasn't present had a meal kept warm. No way would I have extended my day beyond 7pm. Mine had school dinners; pizza, chips and jam doughnuts in their day. I put them on sandwiches when I learned what they were eating and cooked an evening meal for everyone.
Well done. Jamie Oliver would most likely approve, providing the sandwiches weren't composed of pizza and chips.
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Well done. Jamie Oliver would most likely approve, providing the sandwiches weren't composed of pizza and chips.
I knew what a sensible diet consisted of before Jamie Oliver was born, believe it or not.
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I knew what a sensible diet consisted of before Jamie Oliver was born, believe it or not.
Well done!
What is the purpose of this thread? Perhaps Jassi could explain?
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Well done!
What is the purpose of this thread? Perhaps Jassi could explain?
No good asking me - I've forgotten @)(++(*
Actually, I was just curious if they ever got what you might consider a square meal.
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"17.00-17.30 Meet kids for high tea with other mums and dads. They love pasta and have been doing really well with their vegetables although a few chips have been squeezed in."
(Source: First entry in GM blog, 20 May)
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"17.00-17.30 Meet kids for high tea with other mums and dads. They love pasta and have been doing really well with their vegetables although a few chips have been squeezed in."
(Source: First entry in GM blog, 20 May)
Is this significant of something nefarious, do you think?
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Sounds more like desperation to fill a few blog lines.
Bit like " Dear diary, nothing happened today, still got the twins"
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Sounds more like desperation to fill a few blog lines.
Bit like " Dear diary, nothing happened today, still got the twins"
You can't say anything about the investigation, but a blog diary is one way of maintaining interest that Madeleine is still missing.
In the same position, which everyday banalities would you have talked about to keep interest alive?
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Sounds more like desperation to fill a few blog lines.
Bit like " Dear diary, nothing happened today, still got the twins"
Not very funny.
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I knew what a sensible diet consisted of before Jamie Oliver was born, believe it or not.
It's common sense isn't it, don't understand parents who fill their kids up with fizzy drinks, crisps and chocolate bars.
I'm glad schools have banned them.
Everything in moderation, plenty of veg, fish and fruit, add some carbs and protein. Fine for them to have the odd packet of crisps and cake or biscuit, but not to excess.
So, we have established the children ate at different tables, and the nannies were in charge of them. Though the parents all gathered there to collect their children and so the nannies would have been fully aware that Madeleine and the twins were the McCann's children and so Madeleine would have been seen at high tea.
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Is this significant of something nefarious, do you think?
It's of no significance Carana just answering someone else's post about what food was served
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It's common sense isn't it, don't understand parents who fill their kids up with fizzy drinks, crisps and chocolate bars.
I'm glad schools have banned them.
Everything in moderation, plenty of veg, fish and fruit, add some carbs and protein. Fine for them to have the odd packet of crisps and cake or biscuit, but not to excess.
So, we have established the children ate at different tables, and the nannies were in charge of them. Though the parents all gathered there to collect their children and so the nannies would have been fully aware that Madeleine and the twins were the McCann's children and so Madeleine would have been seen at high tea.
I was born towards the end of the war and we are said to have had the best diet due to rationing. Perhaps sweets and fizzy drinks should be put on ration again lol.
A bit more confirmation;
When she finished jogging, around 5:20/5:30PM she went to the Tapas area. Gerry was there, as well as the twins and Madeleine who were eating at separate tables. Madeleine had been taken to the Tapas by the nannies. Her parents were required to sign the register when the meal was over.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/KATE-MCCANN_ARGUIDO.htm