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UK and North American politics. => A look at British politics in the light of the decision to leave the EU. => Topic started by: sadie on July 17, 2016, 07:15:30 PM

Title: Is this the beginning of the overseas holiday industry falling apart?
Post by: sadie on July 17, 2016, 07:15:30 PM
LowCostHolidays goes bust.  Is this the beginning of the overseas holiday industry falling apart?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3692440/Lowcostholidays-travel-agency-goes-bust-leaving-summer-holidays-110-000-Britons-risk.html?ITO=1490

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Title: Re: Is this the beginning of the overseas holiday industry falling apart?
Post by: Angelo222 on July 18, 2016, 12:35:04 AM
LowCostHolidays goes bust.  Is this the beginning of the overseas holiday industry falling apart?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3692440/Lowcostholidays-travel-agency-goes-bust-leaving-summer-holidays-110-000-Britons-risk.html?ITO=1490

Could very well be Sadie.  Mass murder on a Tunisian beach, in the heart of Paris or on the Nice waterfront, who would have believed it a few years ago.  Let's face it, there aren't that many places left in the world which are free from risk.  Give me a week in Blackpool any time.
Title: Re: Is this the beginning of the overseas holiday industry falling apart?
Post by: mercury on July 18, 2016, 12:51:30 AM
Turkeys screwed for sure for a while


As for overseas holidays, nothing much will change in reality

Its just the waily mail normal negativity

Title: Re: Is this the beginning of the overseas holiday industry falling apart?
Post by: Mr Gray on July 18, 2016, 07:39:13 AM
Turkeys screwed for sure for a while


As for overseas holidays, nothing much will change in reality

Its just the waily mail normal negativity

Thomas Cook has cancelled all holidays to Tunisia up until May 24, 2017....Sharm is a ghost town ....and you think nothing has changed
Title: Re: Is this the beginning of the overseas holiday industry falling apart?
Post by: sadie on July 18, 2016, 08:13:10 AM
LowCostHolidays goes bust.  Is this the beginning of the overseas holiday industry falling apart?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3692440/Lowcostholidays-travel-agency-goes-bust-leaving-summer-holidays-110-000-Britons-risk.html?ITO=1490
So is this because of Brexit and the value of the pound changing against the Euro ... or some other reason such as you guys suggest?
Title: Re: Is this the beginning of the overseas holiday industry falling apart?
Post by: Angelo222 on July 20, 2016, 05:14:17 PM
Egypt too is a ghost town these days.
Title: Re: Is this the beginning of the overseas holiday industry falling apart?
Post by: stephen25000 on July 20, 2016, 05:43:42 PM
Egypt too is a ghost town these days.

So you've been there recently ?
Title: Re: Is this the beginning of the overseas holiday industry falling apart?
Post by: Jean-Pierre on July 20, 2016, 06:16:32 PM
So you've been there recently ?

I was in Alexandria a couple of weeks ago as it happens.  Usual crowds of people, cafes, restaurants, markets full of people.

Angelo - you really do talk absolute bo110cks at times. 
Title: Re: Is this the beginning of the overseas holiday industry falling apart?
Post by: stephen25000 on July 20, 2016, 06:18:26 PM
I was in Alexandria a couple of weeks ago as it happens.  Usual crowds of people, cafes, restaurants, markets full of people.

Angelo - you really do talk absolute bo110cks at times.

Nice one J.P. 8((()*/
Title: Re: Is this the beginning of the overseas holiday industry falling apart?
Post by: Angelo222 on July 20, 2016, 06:36:01 PM
I was in Alexandria a couple of weeks ago as it happens.  Usual crowds of people, cafes, restaurants, markets full of people.

Angelo - you really do talk absolute bo110cks at times.

Alexandria will always look busy but there are few tourists about these days. The valley of the Kings is just a bit too risky since the last murders.

www.google.co.uk/url?url=http://www.express.co.uk/travel/articles/623040/terror-chaos-Egypt-tourism-figures-drop-holiday-pictures&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&sa=U&ved=0ahUKEwj7kNyqyoLOAhWEC8AKHX1EBUYQFggdMAI&usg=AFQjCNExYcD91QtoDVRfxBtHOUyFtlSAsA
Title: Re: Is this the beginning of the overseas holiday industry falling apart?
Post by: John on July 20, 2016, 07:09:01 PM
British tourists are very aware of what is going on and will be making or changing their plans accordingly.  Who wants to go on holiday and get blown up or riddled with bullets at check-in, who wants to get mown down on a seaside thoroughfare or who wants to be shot on a beach in Tunisia or on expedition to Tutankhamun in Egypt?

British holidaymakers cancel holidays to Turkey

19 July 2016

Thousands of British families have cancelled their holidays to Turkey following violence in the country during an attempted coup.

Travel agents have been inundated with calls from concerned tourists - following the attempted military takeover - who are asking to delay or cancel their trip to the country.

https://www.world-first.co.uk/home/news/british-holidaymakers-cancel-holidays-to-turkey$92540.aspx


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Title: Re: Is this the beginning of the overseas holiday industry falling apart?
Post by: stephen25000 on July 20, 2016, 07:48:40 PM
British tourists are very aware of what is going on and will be making or changing their plans accordingly.  Who wants to go on holiday and get blown up or riddled with bullets at check-in, who wants to get mown down on a seaside thoroughfare or who wants to be shot on a beach in Tunisia or on expedition to Tutankhamun in Egypt?

British holidaymakers cancel holidays to Turkey

19 July 2016

Thousands of British families have cancelled their holidays to Turkey following violence in the country during an attempted coup.

Travel agents have been inundated with calls from concerned tourists - following the attempted military takeover - who are asking to delay or cancel their trip to the country.

https://www.world-first.co.uk/home/news/british-holidaymakers-cancel-holidays-to-turkey$92540.aspx


(http://cdn.images.dailystar.co.uk/dynamic/28/photos/776000/TERROR-MAP-566776.jpg)

The UK appears to be on the map as well.
Title: Re: Is this the beginning of the overseas holiday industry falling apart?
Post by: John on July 20, 2016, 08:08:07 PM
The UK appears to be on the map as well.

Yes, London in particular is a prime target which has already seen dozens of deaths at the hands of homegrown terrorists.   And definitely an ongoing target as has been confirned by Scotland Yard following the discovery and thwarting of several potential threats.
Title: Re: Is this the beginning of the overseas holiday industry falling apart?
Post by: Alice Purjorick on July 20, 2016, 09:44:00 PM
Turkeys screwed for sure for a while


As for overseas holidays, nothing much will change in reality

Its just the waily mail normal negativity

It has all happened before sort of. Folk were either not paying attention, were not around or were completely disinterested.
I went to The States for a month in 1969. Yer darlin' bleedin' Harold had not long since devalued the pound and made a law that you couldn't take more than fifty one quid out of the country and just for more excitement 82 aircraft were hijacked that year. Rumour has it I am still alive with a few squids in me pockets so all's well.
Living is bloody risky and you will not get out of it alive  8(0(*
Title: Re: Is this the beginning of the overseas holiday industry falling apart?
Post by: mercury on July 20, 2016, 11:09:50 PM
The UK appears to be on the map as well.
But not on the list
I cant believe america is totally grey
Title: Re: Is this the beginning of the overseas holiday industry falling apart?
Post by: G-Unit on July 21, 2016, 12:45:25 PM
Isn't there a holiday company collapse practically every summer? Nothing new there then. I love GB and hate package holidays and hot weather; aren't I lucky?
Title: Re: Is this the beginning of the overseas holiday industry falling apart?
Post by: Alice Purjorick on July 21, 2016, 02:49:04 PM
Isn't there a holiday company collapse practically every summer? Nothing new there then. I love GB and hate package holidays and hot weather; aren't I lucky?

It's not so much that but the "cattle prod" mentality at airports. Unless you are The Sultan of Brunei, a Jordanian Princess or Bono of course.
Title: Re: Is this the beginning of the overseas holiday industry falling apart?
Post by: G-Unit on July 21, 2016, 04:36:31 PM
It's not so much that but the "cattle prod" mentality at airports. Unless you are The Sultan of Brunei, a Jordanian Princess or Bono of course.

I last flew in 1976 with British Airways [very civilised]so can't comment.  @)(++(*
Title: Re: Is this the beginning of the overseas holiday industry falling apart?
Post by: Alice Purjorick on July 21, 2016, 05:31:46 PM
I last flew in 1976 with British Airways [very civilised]so can't comment.  @)(++(*

There are three problems with moving people about:
They complain.
They expect to be fed and watered.
You can't stack them economically. [It is not considered polite to shrink wrap them on to pallets apparently].
That's why "air personnel" use cattle prods land side and call you sir/madam and three bags full air side. Unless of course it British knob 'eads on hen and stag tours in which case the air crews have tasers and Browning HiPowers  8(>((
Title: Re: Is this the beginning of the overseas holiday industry falling apart?
Post by: G-Unit on July 21, 2016, 07:11:52 PM
There are three problems with moving people about:
They complain.
They expect to be fed and watered.
You can't stack them economically. [It is not considered polite to shrink wrap them on to pallets apparently].
That's why "air personnel" use cattle prods land side and call you sir/madam and three bags full air side. Unless of course it British knob 'eads on hen and stag tours in which case the air crews have tasers and Browning HiPowers  8(>((

That sounds such fun! I'll stick with my leisurely trips to peaceful UK destinations, I think. Still so many places to see. I've just been outside enjoying a little shower; bliss!
Title: Re: Is this the beginning of the overseas holiday industry falling apart?
Post by: John on July 23, 2016, 02:41:40 PM
People just have to be sensible and not book a holiday to Baghdad et all...
Title: Re: Is this the beginning of the overseas holiday industry falling apart?
Post by: stephen25000 on July 23, 2016, 03:06:17 PM
I wonder how many people queuing in Kent today to go to France or elsewhere through the Eurotunnel, voted to leave ?   8)-)))
Title: Re: Is this the beginning of the overseas holiday industry falling apart?
Post by: Alice Purjorick on July 23, 2016, 05:14:42 PM
People just have to be sensible and not book a holiday to Baghdad et all...

Or to paraphrase Sir Lenny Henry in one his best sketches about "why Jamaicans went to Beirut" for their holidays!
"Unless you are permanently laid back and have to have a holiday for some serious angst".
Title: Re: Is this the beginning of the overseas holiday industry falling apart?
Post by: John on July 24, 2016, 02:25:02 AM
I wonder how many people queuing in Kent today to go to France or elsewhere through the Eurotunnel, voted to leave ?   8)-)))

Oh dear, unlucky them.  The booze cruises wont be doing so well these days.   8)><(
Title: Re: Is this the beginning of the overseas holiday industry falling apart?
Post by: misty on July 24, 2016, 11:39:26 AM
I wonder how many people queuing in Kent today to go to France or elsewhere through the Eurotunnel, voted to leave ?   8)-)))

Are there also 12 mile queues for traffic coming the opposite way?
We've  had to send extra UK border staff over to France to help them out.
Title: Re: Is this the beginning of the overseas holiday industry falling apart?
Post by: John on July 24, 2016, 12:33:54 PM
I wonder how many people queuing in Kent today to go to France or elsewhere through the Eurotunnel, voted to leave ?   8)-)))

The queues on the south coast of England have nothing to do with Brexit.
Title: Re: Is this the beginning of the overseas holiday industry falling apart?
Post by: Alice Purjorick on July 24, 2016, 12:54:50 PM
It's a random French thing I think [gives Gallic shrug].
I nearly missed a flight, some did, at Charles de Gaule Airport about 8 years ago when the sole security person at the end of travelators feeding two intercontinental flights and a flight to East Mids seemingly went UDI and did the full works within her remit, to everyone. Eventually the travelators had to be switched off before we all fell over like donimoes (I know!). My flight to East Mids left late and without a lot passengers as a result.
Title: Re: Is this the beginning of the overseas holiday industry falling apart?
Post by: stephen25000 on July 24, 2016, 01:19:06 PM
Are there also 12 mile queues for traffic coming the opposite way?
We've  had to send extra UK border staff over to France to help them out.

I didn't say they had.

However, I did wonder how many of those queuing voted to leave Europe. 8((()*/
Title: Re: Is this the beginning of the overseas holiday industry falling apart?
Post by: Miss Taken Identity on July 24, 2016, 09:31:25 PM
I didn't say they had.

However, I did wonder how many of those queuing voted to leave Europe. 8((()*/


I would hazzard a guess and say quite  few!  Many voted brexit from EU political nightmare, they didn't vote for, they still want to travel to Europe and do business there because they didn't vote for a war with all foreigners!

On saying that, it is a bit late in the day to start being that pedantic about security in France, after all the terrorists they let travel over here in the 80,s 90's, and ever since have been very active.

Just a wee reminder... Hello, among those millions of 'asylum seekers' there are terrorists telling all sorts of lies and using children to sheild their real objective in Europe.

I have been to most countries on that map- never flown with cheap and vile ryan air or the equally other cheap airlines who shunt paper panted travellers to  crude and vile 'resorts' to behave in a shameful and dispicable way.

lowcost means low life behaviour in my opinion=low moral standards. who wants to holiday with those types? I hope the rest of those cheap flights go bust!

The real reason is terrorism, some will spin it, but that is the truth of the matter.