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Off Topic and General Discussions => Off topic, general discussions and the Wide Awake Club. => Topic started by: Mr Gray on May 23, 2017, 07:55:36 AM
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22 Dead
So much hate in this world
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22 Dead
So much hate in this world
Thoughts and prayers with them all. x
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Thoughts and prayers with them all. x
I echo that wholeheartedly. x
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There are no words.
Killed because they were happy & free. RIP.
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We all know the protocol by now -
1. This has nothing to do with Islam.
2. The guy was a mentally ill 'lone wolf'.
3. Those who object to points 1 and 2 are racist bigots.
4. Change Facebook profile to flag of inflicted country.
5. Light some candles, hold a vigil and go on a peace march.
6. Wait for the next slaughter to happen.
7. Repeat.
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I didn't want to speculate, but I honestly believed that this was an Atheist terror attack, carried out in the name of Science.......& wasn't just the Religion of Peace, being peaceful, again.
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Terrorist acts Spam, are nothing new in history.
Lunatics have used religion as an excuse to justify their actions.
This was another lunatic.
So I hope you are not trying to imply all people who follow Islam, should be tagged into this.
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Terrorist acts Spam, are nothing new in history.
Lunatics have used religion as an excuse to justify their actions.
This was another lunatic.
So I hope you are not trying to imply all people who follow Islam, should be tagged into this.
^^ You are literally an apologist for terrorism.
More outraged by "Islamaphobia" than by people being blown to pieces in the name of a hateful ideology.
Nice!
Christopher Hitchens.
Don't bow to Islam.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-ovsfH6GH0
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Cultural Enrichment.
Christopher Hitchens Predicts Cultural Problems with Islam and the West.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJQPGQkhL0w
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Christopher Hitchens - Hitchslap for Islam.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t400s6cutYU
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^^ You are literally an apologist for terrorism.
More outraged by "Islamaphobia" than by people being blown to pieces in the name of a hateful ideology.
Nice!
Christopher Hitchens.
Don't bow to Islam.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-ovsfH6GH0
Well said Spammy .... I am quite disgusted by how weak and pathetic we have become as a nation. Millions of soldiers have given their lives to protect and preserve our way of life. They are all spinning in their graves now wishing they hadn't bothered. What they fought for has been given away in a cloud of political correctness and spineless pandering to an ideology that is totally incompatible with our way of life!
In a few generations time Britian will be a majority Muslim nation and no doubt Sharia Law will be imposed not long after. And nothing will be done to stop it. We have sat and watched as literally 100's of Muslim paedo gangs have targetted and groomed for rape literally 1000's of underage British girls. We have let them blow our kids to pieces last week without a murmur on the anniversary of them decapitating our soldier on the streets of London!
God help us. We are doomed to become a Sharia Law caliphate. We should have listened to that brilliant man Enoch Powell who tried to warn us what would happen. Rivers Of Blood indeed!
They can groom, rape and murder our children in our country without a sign of public outrage but if President Trump tried to visit here you know there would be 1000's rioting in the streets. We are a lost nation of spineless worms!
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Another atrocity:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/0
I learned of this first thing the morning when unusually I turned on the radio to listen to BBC radio 2. A female revd from London was talking. I didn't catch her full name but it sounded something like Alison Whittle. Anyway she was talking about the fact she was at an inter-faith meeting attended by those of a variety of faiths including Christians and Muslims when news of this latest atrocity broke. What about those from non-faith groups: Agnostics, Atheists, Humanists etc. I will endeavour to identify the revd and write to her asking why she is excluding non-faith groups from her meetings!
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MK5coBSCOQk
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mWfHkLbMm6w
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mWfHkLbMm6w
Holly dear we are going to have some fine debates over toffee vodkas at Rond Point on the way back down to Chaudonne!
Your strap line is a great insult to Neville and June! Jeremy and Sheila were wanted and loved ..... even the murderer himself reminisces about is wonderful childhood on the farm in just about every blog he posts! They both had a very good education, money, homes bought for them, cars, work and both would have had a prosperous future assured had Jeremy not murdered all his immediate family! The only fault I would throw at N. and J. is they were too indulgent to the whims of both kids .... neither had to learn to stand on their own two feet.
That strap line is very unfair!
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Holly dear we are going to have some fine debates over toffee vodkas at Rond Point on the way back down to Chaudonne!
Your strap line is a great insult to Neville and June! Jeremy and Sheila were wanted and loved ..... even the murderer himself reminisces about is wonderful childhood on the farm in just about every blog he posts! They both had a very good education, money, homes bought for them, cars, work and both would have had a prosperous future assured had Jeremy not murdered all his immediate family! The only fault I would throw at N. and J. is they were too indulgent to the whims of both kids .... neither had to learn to stand on their own two feet.
That strap line is very unfair!
Have really enjoyed the 'One Love Manchester' concert this evening.
I'm currently out of action with a rotator cuff injury. Overdid the wing prevention prog aka lateral rises!
I don't believe my strap is unfair. According to CAL and Dr Ferguson June first suffered a mental breakdown during 1955 due to her inability to conceive birth children. Despite this fact June was approved suitable to adopt SC, born 1957, and formally adopted by the Bambers in 1958. According to Dr Ferguson June suffered a further breakdown during 1959 as a result of her decision to adopt. Despite these facts SC remained with the Bambers and they were approved to adopt JB in 1961. I think most modern day social workers, psychologists, psychiatrists etc would be aghast.
No one knows what goes on behind closed doors. I agree on the surface the Bambers appear ideal adopters, but were they? Were June's Christian beliefs, especially surrounding sexual morality, compatible with adopting new born babies in an era where adoption took place mainly due to the stigma attached to illegitimacy? If one finds sex outside the sanctity of marriage unacceptable, evidenced by June's desire for SC to have an abortion followed by marriage to CC, along with her willingness to buy JM a property to prevent her sleeping with JB at Goldhanger, is any of this conducive to forming healthy relationships with her adopted children? Who after all were the product of something June seemed to have a lot of antipathy for.
Did SC suffer an attachment disorder and find herself in a state of shame due to June's mental illness/religiosity?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=d2zBemb46Zo
Heavy I know, but to my mind it is far more plausible than JB murdering his family to fast-forward an inheritance.
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Have really enjoyed the 'One Love Manchester' concert this evening.
I'm currently out of action with a rotator cuff injury. Overdid the wing prevention prog aka lateral rises!
I don't believe my strap is unfair. According to CAL and Dr Ferguson June first suffered a mental breakdown during 1955 due to her inability to conceive birth children. Despite this fact June was approved suitable to adopt SC, born 1957, and formally adopted by the Bambers in 1958. According to Dr Ferguson June suffered a further breakdown during 1959 as a result of her decision to adopt. Despite these facts SC remained with the Bambers and they were approved to adopt JB in 1961. I think most modern day social workers, psychologists, psychiatrists etc would be aghast.
No one knows what goes on behind closed doors. I agree on the surface the Bambers appear ideal adopters, but were they? Were June's Christian beliefs, especially surrounding sexual morality, compatible with adopting new born babies in an era where adoption took place mainly due to the stigma attached to illegitimacy? If one finds sex outside the sanctity of marriage unacceptable, evidenced by June's desire for SC to have an abortion followed by marriage to CC, along with her willingness to buy JM a property to prevent her sleeping with JB at Goldhanger, is any of this conducive to forming healthy relationships with her adopted children? Who after all were the product of something June seemed to have a lot of antipathy for.
Did SC suffer an attachment disorder and find herself in a state of shame due to June's mental illness/religiosity?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=d2zBemb46Zo
Heavy I know, but to my mind it is far more plausible than JB murdering his family to fast-forward an inheritance.
Fast forward his inheritance and double it at least! I am not sure what provisions had been made for the twins but I am sure Sheila's share was a big part of Jeremy's motivation.
I agree June was unstable at times and somewhat of a religious zealot but she and Neville provided an idealic home for them both and an assured comfortable life .... they hit the adoption jackpot imo.
I am still waiting for you to see the light girl .... Jeremy did it beyond a shadow of a doubt.
Hope ya shoulder gets better hun ..... you remain the acceptable face of Bamberette .... ism!
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I can believe JB COULD have murdered his family to gain an inheritance. It is a very plausible motive.
On the other hand, it certainly does seem that the Bambers were what one would call a dysfunctional family, and it does seem that June had plenty of problems of her own which would have influenced how she interacted with her children.
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I can believe JB COULD have murdered his family to gain an inheritance. It is a very plausible motive.
On the other hand, it certainly does seem that the Bambers were what one would call a dysfunctional family, and it does seem that June had plenty of problems of her own which would have influenced how she interacted with her children.
Yeah June does appear to have been very fragile but there are only two possible murderers .... Jeremy kindly proved that himself. And as Sheila could not and would not have committed the murders, it has to have been Jeremy.