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Portishead shooting: Man dies after police surround car
A man has died in a "police shooting" involving a car near the M5 motorway in the Bristol area.
The incident happened on the Portbury Hundred (A369) near junction 19 for Portishead at around 09:30 BST.
One eyewitness told the BBC he saw officers firing at the passenger window and dragging a man out the car.
Avon and Somerset Police confirmed the fatality and has referred the shooting to the Independent Police Complaints Commission.
Latest updates from the scene
The force said it was not terror-related.
David Ellison told BBC Radio Bristol he saw officers fire between six and 10 shots through the passenger window using handguns.
"They surrounded it. They shot maybe five, six or ten times," he said.
"Then they dragged a man from the car to resuscitate him.
"It came off the roundabout towards Portishead and then was boxed in by cars."
The BBC's Jon Kay, who is at the scene, said there was a red car with smashed windows visible behind the police cordon.
A police spokesman said: "We can confirm a man died earlier this morning in an incident involving police firearms on The Portbury Hundred (A369) in Portishead.
"We have referred the incident to the Independent Police Complaints Commission."
An air ambulance is at the scene along with Great Western Ambulance's critical care team.
The Portbury Hundred links the M5 motorway to the town of Portishead, to the west of Bristol.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-41415223
David Ellison told the broadcaster: “Several police vehicles surrounded the car and I saw two police officers fire five, six, maybe 10 shots through the passenger window.
A car being photographed by police appeared to be an older model red Suzuki Swift hatchback.
The BBC reported it was this vehicle that had been surrounded by marked and unmarked police cars at about 9.30am before the shooting is said to have taken place.
Question is ... why open fire if they have the car surrounded ?????
The car is boxed in.... Were the occupants armed ????
Why were armed Police chasing this car in the first place ???
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Eye witness account
Eyewitness said he saw police back away from car
An eyewitness claimed he saw police shoot into a car that had been stopped.
David Ellison told BBC Radio Bristol: “As I came out of Portishead to join the motorway I got stopped. Ahead of me were police in the road.
“I saw them back off from a car and then they surrounded it. They maybe shot with handguns five, six, maybe 10 times.
“Then they dragged a man from the car to resuscitate him.”
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/bristol-police-shooting-a369-armed-officers-fire-car-portishead-somerset-a7969616.html
http://www.somersetlive.co.uk/news/gunshots-heard-near-portishead-live-540184
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A man has died in a "police shooting" involving a car near the M5 motorway in the Bristol area.
The incident happened on the Portbury Hundred (A369) near junction 19 for Portishead at about 09:30 BST.
One eyewitness told the BBC he saw officers firing at the passenger window and dragging a man out the car.
Avon and Somerset Police confirmed the fatality and has referred the shooting to the Independent Police Complaints Commission.
If they dragged a man from the drivers side of the car why is the body lying on the floor on the passenger side ??? you can see in image 2
a description on a You tube video has the man at the front of the red vehicle with a blanket over him...
But the second image I have attached has the man to the side nearer the black car... was there more than one person in the car ???
Pictures from the scene show a man lying face-up on the road covered in a bloodied blanket in front of a red car, which is riddled with bullet holes.
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/portishead-shooting-police-fire-10-shots-car-m5-110600858.html
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-41415223
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVVHra4YmLo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eM9kq61YcEk
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I like to document things.. before they go walkies ...
Quote from BBC News on youtube... The reporter says :
We have the air ambulance , we have the ambulance vehicles rushed here very very quickly, within a couple of minutes of this car being surrounded
I know I'm a bit of a sceptic... But unless you knew you were going to shoot someone how can an ambulance turn up in a couple of minutes ????
Another report.... transcript: (The voice of David Ellison, eye witness)..
I came up to erm.. officers on the dual carriage way this morning, stopping the traffic , I erm..
I didn't think much of it at first, and then I saw them step back from a vehicle.. Erm and they aimed and shot maybe 5/ 6 times into a smallish vehicle, erm and then, removed the guy from the vehicle.
Someone came with a crash kit, thats about where it ended really , we got turned round , the vehicles then but erm
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQ9hhq6k0uc
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/859368/bristol-shooting-police-incident-Portbury-Hundred-Avon-and-Somerset-police
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I'll start asking now ... why 2 Forensic tents ?????
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Where there two people in this car ????
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Police shoot man several times after bringing mobile pursuit to an end.
An overhead image of the scene.
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Why have they removed the mans trousers ??????
Which are also visible in your picture John???
Also what is this item on the road i have circled in image 3: ???
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Why have they removed the mans trousers ??????
Which are also visible in your picture John???
Also what is this item on the road i have circled in image 3: ???
He is still wearing grey jogger bottoms and trainers in your earlier pic.
Also notice the handgun sitting on top of the red car.
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He is still wearing grey jogger bottoms and trainers in your earlier pic.
Also notice the handgun sitting on top of the red car.
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I had noticed that too John... But then I wondered if it was The blanket??
So who's are the black trousers ???
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There is also a white stick with a hat next to it on the floor near the drivers door ....
What the Yellow and Green thing to the front left of the car ????
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Another overhead shot...
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Journalists all lined up at the scene...
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Forensic tent to the right...
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We have 3 items next to the forensic tent, which is next to the black Police Car...
(1): pair of trousers
(2): Brown shoes ?? (not sure )
(3): Another gun ?? ( again not sure )
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Police Officer stood with Fire Arm to his side ..
http://www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/local-news/gallery/pictured-car-peppered-bullet-holes-541065
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Live Reporting
Posted at 15:17
SHARED'Were police acting under shoot-to-kill policy?'
Keeping across the police firearms incident as the story develops is BBC West's Home Affairs Correspondent Charlotte Callen.
Here she outlines the police policy on the use of firearms.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-england-bristol-41398093?ns_mchannel=social&ns_source=twitter&ns_campaign=bbc_live&ns_linkname=59cbaa3de4b018ca0e665c57%26%27Were%20police%20acting%20under%20shoot-to-kill%20policy%3F%27%26&ns_fee=0#post_59cbaa3de4b018ca0e665c57
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How many shots were fired??
I count 3 in the back passenger panel... Image attached
2 in the rear window.... Image attached
Plus the ones that went through the drivers window and rear passenger side window
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This Mornings report:...
A man armed with a handgun had threatened another motorist before armed officers shot him dead in dramatic M5 police chase.
The Independent Police Complaints Commission , which is investigating the incident, said in a statement that police had been responding to reports of a man with a weapon.
Avon and Somerset Police said officers had intercepted a red Suzuki Swift car at about 9.30am after 999 calls reporting a man with a gun in a car on the M5 motorway.
The car came off the motorway at junction 19, for Portishead, and was stopped by armed officers on the A369 Portbury Hundred road before he was shot, reports the Bristol Post .
Reports suggest that the man was chased off the motorway by police before he was shot through the passenger side window, although pictures showed the target vehicle riddled with bullet holes – including through the rear windscreen.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/man-handgun-threatened-another-motorist-11250851
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It seems pretty clear if he threatened another motorist with a gun. And I must say that I am impressed by the way in which they got him off the motorway.
Disarming him through closed car windows was always going to be difficult as they couldn't be sure that he was no longer a danger. This could have involved several shots.
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Second police force to be investigated over Portishead shooting
West Mercia police yesterday revealed it had a report of a man pointing a gun at a motorist on the M5 between Worcester and Tewkesbury around an hour before a driver was shot by police near Portishead.
The man – who has not yet been named – was killed by police on Wednesday morning after travelling more than 111 miles.
Avon and Somerset Constabulary referred itself for investigation to the Independent Police Complaints Commission (IPCC) within hours of the incident and now West Mercia Force – which covers Herefordshire, Shropshire and Worcestershire - has followed suit.
West Mercia police yesterday revealed it had a report of a man pointing a gun at a motorist on the M5 between Worcester and Tewkesbury around an hour before a driver was shot by police near Portishead.
The scene of the shooting was more than 50 miles and 11 junctions away from the place where the car was when the threat was reported.
A force spokesperson said: “We can confirm that we received a call at 8.30am Wednesday of a report of a man in a vehicle, pointing a gun at another motorist and that was near junction eight of the M5.
"That was passed on to the central motorway police group (CMPG). We have informed the IPCC about this call."
The exact detail of the have not yet been released, but witnesses describe seeing police shoot at a red Suzuki Swift car between five and ten times on the A369 known as The Portbury Hundred.
The IPCC said it was examining "what appears to be a non-police issue firearm" found at the scene and checking for CCTV and body-worn video footage of the incident.
http://www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/bristol-news/second-police-force-investigated-over-553618
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BBC News report
A spokesman for West Mercia Police said the tip-off was "passed on to the Central Motorway Policing Group" and the IPCC was also informed.
West Mercia Police said it received a call at 08:30 about a driver pointing a gun on the M5 in Worcestershire.
The force, and also Gloucestershire Constabulary, have reported themselves to the Independent Police Complaints Commission (IPCC).
Latest updates on this and other stories from the West of England
The IPCC has already launched an investigation into Avon and Somerset Police, following the shooting at Portishead.
West Mercia Police said it received the tip-off of the suspect pointing a gun at another motorist, when he was close to junction eight of the M5, near to Strensham services and the M50 junction.
An hour later a man was shot on the Portbury Hundred (A369) close to Gordano services.
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The IPCC said what appeared to be a "non-police issue firearm" had been found at the scene
A spokesman for West Mercia Police said the tip-off was "passed on to the Central Motorway Policing Group" and the IPCC was also informed.
The IPCC said a member of the public made a report to West Mercia Police and information was then passed to Gloucestershire Constabulary.
A spokesperson added they were "assessing the referrals to see what, if any involvement we should have in investigating the West Mercia and Gloucestershire response to that report".
Earlier an IPCC spokesman said it had been advised officers were "responding to reports of a man travelling on the M5 with a handgun and that he had threatened another motorist".
"What appears to be a non-police issue firearm was found at the scene and will also be subject to examination," he said.
Formal identification of the deceased is due to be made later along with the results of a post-mortem examination.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-41440788