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Title: Michael Sams
Post by: Padgates staff on January 22, 2013, 04:13:59 PM
Can anyone tell me what the chances of Michael Sams being released?
Its 21 years since he kidnapped Stephanie and he's due a review in 4 years and now she's scared he's going to get out. I'm sure he won't but I would like to be reassured he won't.
If he is given parole is there a governing body who complaints can be sent to, to keep him in?
Title: Re: Michael Sams
Post by: sika on January 22, 2013, 06:22:44 PM
Can anyone tell me what the chances of Michael Sams being released?
Its 21 years since he kidnapped Stephanie and he's due a review in 4 years and now she's scared he's going to get out. I'm sure he won't but I would like to be reassured he won't.
If he is given parole is there a governing body who complaints can be sent to, to keep him in?
There are a number of convicts who will never be released, Sams is one of these.
Title: Re: Michael Sams
Post by: insider on January 22, 2013, 06:26:43 PM
Can anyone tell me what the chances of Michael Sams being released?
Its 21 years since he kidnapped Stephanie and he's due a review in 4 years and now she's scared he's going to get out. I'm sure he won't but I would like to be reassured he won't.
If he is given parole is there a governing body who complaints can be sent to, to keep him in?


Sika is correct Joanne.   Sams will not be released any time soon and possibly only when he is so old he is not a danger to anyone. 
Title: Re: Michael Sams
Post by: Padgates staff on January 22, 2013, 06:39:38 PM
I'm so glad.
Title: Re: Michael Sams
Post by: John on January 22, 2013, 06:40:08 PM
Can anyone tell me what the chances of Michael Sams being released?
Its 21 years since he kidnapped Stephanie and he's due a review in 4 years and now she's scared he's going to get out. I'm sure he won't but I would like to be reassured he won't.
If he is given parole is there a governing body who complaints can be sent to, to keep him in?

He is one of these people whom a former Home Secretary has said will never be released.
Title: Re: Michael Sams
Post by: Padgates staff on January 22, 2013, 06:46:58 PM
I'll let her know.
Title: Re: Michael Sams
Post by: John on January 22, 2013, 08:53:32 PM
I'll let her know.

I had a little read about the case Joanne and what Stephanie went through was truly awful.  There really are some nasty depraved people around on this planet.   ?8)@)-)

Did you know that he actually tried to sue her for defamation?
Title: Re: Michael Sams
Post by: sika on January 22, 2013, 09:17:29 PM
I'll let her know.

I had a little read about the case Joanne and what Stephanie went through was truly awful.  There really are some nasty depraved people around on this planet.   ?8)@)-)

Did you know that he actually tried to sue her for defamation?
Yes, I also refreshed my memories of this case. He tried to sue her because Stephanie stated that he'd raped her. Is it likely, do you think, that he was also responsible for the presumed murder of Suzy Lamplugh?
Title: Re: Michael Sams
Post by: Andrea on January 23, 2013, 12:01:39 AM
Sams murdered Julie Dart, a young girl of 18 from Leeds.

She is buried a near my dad.
Title: Re: Michael Sams
Post by: Padgates staff on January 23, 2013, 08:47:40 AM
Yes, he tried to sue Stephanie on the basis he said he didn't rape her (he did and she spoke of it in a documentary)-libel. He didn't win, however he seems to have form for suing-prison bed too hard, that type of thing.
Title: Re: Michael Sams
Post by: Andrea on January 23, 2013, 11:21:09 PM
The cheeky b......... He will sue for whatever takes his fancy till the cows come home, hes got nothing else to do.
What prison is Sams held in?
Title: Re: Michael Sams
Post by: puglove on January 23, 2013, 11:52:16 PM
The cheeky b......... He will sue for whatever takes his fancy till the cows come home, hes got nothing else to do.
What prison is Sams held in?

I feel so sorry for Stephanie, (not the other one) - she's tried to make a new life for herself but she will always be haunted by the horrendous ordeal that she suffered. Unimaginable horror. I'm amazed that a film hasn't been made about it.
Title: Re: Michael Sams
Post by: Andrea on January 24, 2013, 12:10:12 AM
Was she the one he kept in a Garage locked in a box?
Title: Re: Michael Sams
Post by: puglove on January 24, 2013, 12:20:54 AM
Was she the one he kept in a Garage locked in a box?

Yes.  8(8-))

But he wasn't involved in the Suzie Lamplugh case. That was John Cannan. BT worked with him, years ago.
Title: Re: Michael Sams
Post by: Andrea on January 24, 2013, 12:21:43 AM
Just watching the first part of Trevor Macdonalds Death Row. Jeez, it makes grim viewing.
Title: Re: Michael Sams
Post by: puglove on January 24, 2013, 12:33:18 AM
Just watching the first part of Trevor Macdonalds Death Row. Jeez, it makes grim viewing.

It does, but most deserve to be there. It's sweet that most of us have had nothing more threatening than a parking ticket, and certain people can sit in their ivory tower and pontificate (yes, you, Grahame Belton/Lugg/Blogg/Chevalier/tw.. - but, if God forbid, someone hurt a member of my family, I would seek retribution. And, I presume, that is how the remaining family feel. It wasn't Sheila, so who was it?
Title: Re: Michael Sams
Post by: Andrea on January 24, 2013, 12:40:55 AM
Shona, what ya bin upto today?
Im off to kip soon, i have a stiff neck, was ok all day then it went stiff suddenly!

Im falling to bits, i feel about 60 8)><(
Title: Re: Michael Sams
Post by: Andrea on January 24, 2013, 12:43:30 AM
Im off, see ya tomorrow. ZZZz zzzz night!
Title: Re: Michael Sams
Post by: puglove on January 24, 2013, 12:46:41 AM
Just watching the first part of Trevor Macdonalds Death Row. Jeez, it makes grim viewing.

It does, but most deserve to be there. It's sweet that most of us have had nothing more threatening than a parking ticket, and certain people can sit in their ivory tower and pontificate (yes, you, Grahame Belton/Lugg/Blogg/Chevalier/tw.. - but, if God forbid, someone hurt a member of my family, I would seek retribution. And, I presume, that is how the remaining family feel. It wasn't Sheila, so who was it?

And. for once, lets be real. Sheila didn't draw breath after the first shot, she was knocked out, no blood in her airways, no blood in her stomach. She was petrified with fear, did as she was told, then pulled down slightly to expose her neck. Rounded blood marks on the carpet - Sheila couldn't have caused them. Wiping blood from the silencer.

27 years, and nothing. I seriously rest my case.