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What is actual in your view?  That Madeleine hasn't come to harm?  Or that the BKA has evidence to the contrary?
My view is that there's a disconnect from what is claimed and no communication to either OG or the McCanns.
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There was and still is a disconnect between what is claimed and what is actual, the Official find MM page still declares there in no evidence to suggest MM as come to harm.The BKA through OG do not have to provide direct evidence of its exist they merely have to confirm through OG what they have.
What is actual in your view?  That Madeleine hasn't come to harm?  Or that the BKA has evidence to the contrary?
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Nothing new, that's nigh on two hrs of my life wasted watching it.
No one forced you.  I don't know what you were expecting?  A full and frank confession from Kate and Gerry perhaps?
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Episode 2 of the new Madeleine documentary on Amazon Prime does a good job at reminding us how vile the anti McCanns trolls have been over the years.  I love Jim Gamble, he speaks such sense and is obviously a very decent bloke.
Nothing new, that's nigh on two hrs of my life wasted watching it.
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As Gildas refuses to provide a cite and as this is a crucial part of the argument I thought I would ask Chat GPT if the claim was true or not.  Here is the detailed response.  Feel free to challenge any and every point made:

CHAT GPT -
What the public record actually supports

There is now substantial reporting that German investigators possess photographic material which they regard as highly significant to the conclusion that Madeleine is dead.

In 2025, reporting on material recovered from Br?ckner?s abandoned factory said investigators had a hard drive containing photographs taken in Portugal, which they believed was important in persuading them that Madeleine died shortly after her disappearance. The same reporting describes the USB sticks and memory cards found under the dead dog, containing extensive child-abuse material.

There is also reporting that German investigators had an external hard drive associated with the Madeleine investigation. During the Br?ckner trial, BKA detective Titus Stampa referred to an account as the ?murder? account and an external hard drive ?also belonging to the killing case?, while declining to disclose its contents because they related to Madeleine?s killing.

So there is a very important factual background to Gildas?s argument that I underplayed.

But there is an important distinction

The strongest version of Gildas?s claim would be:

German investigators have officially admitted that they possess photographs showing Madeleine dead.

I have not yet found an authoritative German police/prosecutor source using those exact words.

What I can substantiate is something slightly different but still very significant:

* German authorities have publicly said they have concrete evidence leading them to believe Madeleine is dead.
* Evidence recovered from Br?ckner?s property included digital media.
* German investigators have possessed a hard drive containing photographs taken in Portugal which reporting says was significant to their conclusion that Madeleine died.
* A BKA detective subsequently confirmed in court the existence of material directly connected with the ?killing of Maddie?, while refusing to disclose its contents.
There was and still is a disconnect between what is claimed and what is actual, the Official find MM page still declares there in no evidence to suggest MM as come to harm.The BKA through OG do not have to provide direct evidence of its exist they merely have to confirm through OG what they have.
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I did reply but the reply has not appeared.I am not going to type it out again. I said I that I was not going to be controlled by you.
I then said that said that I was only posting to provide information about Bernt's book, but since
It was not required I was going to finish posting.
Before I go though, I would like to say that, I don't believe that
The German police have proof that Christian b murdered Madeleine
I don't believe they have photos of a dead Madeleine.
I don't believe that the photos are the proof that Christian b.murdered  Madeleine
I don't believe Christian B had photos of a dead Madeleine because he caught Gerry burying her(Wonderfulspam, I think)
Obviously, I don't believe any of the excuses of why Christian b. has not been charged
I do believe Friedrich Fulscher when he says Christian B. Will not be charged with the abduction of Madeleine.
Christ on a bike - as if I have the power to control you.  All I asked for was a cite to confirm your claim that the German police had officially claimed they have photos of dead Madeleine.  You obviously can't provide one because obviously they have never done so and you basically misled the forum. So long and thanks for all the fish.
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As Gildas refuses to provide a cite and as this is a crucial part of the argument I thought I would ask Chat GPT if the claim was true or not.  Here is the detailed response.  Feel free to challenge any and every point made:

CHAT GPT -
What the public record actually supports

There is now substantial reporting that German investigators possess photographic material which they regard as highly significant to the conclusion that Madeleine is dead.

In 2025, reporting on material recovered from Br?ckner?s abandoned factory said investigators had a hard drive containing photographs taken in Portugal, which they believed was important in persuading them that Madeleine died shortly after her disappearance. The same reporting describes the USB sticks and memory cards found under the dead dog, containing extensive child-abuse material.

There is also reporting that German investigators had an external hard drive associated with the Madeleine investigation. During the Br?ckner trial, BKA detective Titus Stampa referred to an account as the ?murder? account and an external hard drive ?also belonging to the killing case?, while declining to disclose its contents because they related to Madeleine?s killing.

So there is a very important factual background to Gildas?s argument that I underplayed.

But there is an important distinction

The strongest version of Gildas?s claim would be:

German investigators have officially admitted that they possess photographs showing Madeleine dead.

I have not yet found an authoritative German police/prosecutor source using those exact words.

What I can substantiate is something slightly different but still very significant:

* German authorities have publicly said they have concrete evidence leading them to believe Madeleine is dead.
* Evidence recovered from Br?ckner?s property included digital media.
* German investigators have possessed a hard drive containing photographs taken in Portugal which reporting says was significant to their conclusion that Madeleine died.
* A BKA detective subsequently confirmed in court the existence of material directly connected with the ?killing of Maddie?, while refusing to disclose its contents.
I did reply but the reply has not appeared.I am not going to type it out again. I said I that I was not going to be controlled by you.
I then said that said that I was only posting to provide information about Bernt's book, but since
It was not required I was going to finish posting.
Before I go though, I would like to say that, I don't believe that
The German police have proof that Christian b murdered Madeleine
I don't believe they have photos of a dead Madeleine.
I don't believe that the photos are the proof that Christian b.murdered  Madeleine
I don't believe Christian B had photos of a dead Madeleine because he caught Gerry burying her(Wonderfulspam, I think)
Obviously, I don't believe any of the excuses of why Christian b. has not been charged
I do believe Friedrich Fulscher when he says Christian B. Will not be charged with the abduction of Madeleine.




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Let us not lose sight of the fact that the BKA detective refused to either confirm or deny that the Germans had photos pertaining to Madeleine's death on one of Bruckner's email accounts but obviously what ever evidence was on there has not been made publicly available and has convinced the Germans that Bruckner is involved in Madeleine's disappearance.  Now, I expect to be told that Titus Stampa lied under oath, is a charlatan, that GB News is a right wing conspiracy propaganda site to protect the McCanns etc but for anyone not completely blind to the possibility that Gerry DIDN'T dump his daughter's body is a bin this is worth remembering.
https://www.gbnews.com/news/madeleine-mccann-emails-murder-suspect-christian-brueckner
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As Gildas refuses to provide a cite and as this is a crucial part of the argument I thought I would ask Chat GPT if the claim was true or not.  Here is the detailed response.  Feel free to challenge any and every point made:

CHAT GPT -
What the public record actually supports

There is now substantial reporting that German investigators possess photographic material which they regard as highly significant to the conclusion that Madeleine is dead.

In 2025, reporting on material recovered from Br?ckner?s abandoned factory said investigators had a hard drive containing photographs taken in Portugal, which they believed was important in persuading them that Madeleine died shortly after her disappearance. The same reporting describes the USB sticks and memory cards found under the dead dog, containing extensive child-abuse material.

There is also reporting that German investigators had an external hard drive associated with the Madeleine investigation. During the Br?ckner trial, BKA detective Titus Stampa referred to an account as the ?murder? account and an external hard drive ?also belonging to the killing case?, while declining to disclose its contents because they related to Madeleine?s killing.

So there is a very important factual background to Gildas?s argument that I underplayed.

But there is an important distinction

The strongest version of Gildas?s claim would be:

German investigators have officially admitted that they possess photographs showing Madeleine dead.

I have not yet found an authoritative German police/prosecutor source using those exact words.

What I can substantiate is something slightly different but still very significant:

* German authorities have publicly said they have concrete evidence leading them to believe Madeleine is dead.
* Evidence recovered from Br?ckner?s property included digital media.
* German investigators have possessed a hard drive containing photographs taken in Portugal which reporting says was significant to their conclusion that Madeleine died.
* A BKA detective subsequently confirmed in court the existence of material directly connected with the ?killing of Maddie?, while refusing to disclose its contents.
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Either Stellander lied about Fulscher telling him about the photos or Fulscher was lied to by his ?source? about the photos. It could be either. What I am sure of is if Wolter?s had that kind of evidence Bruckner would certainly have been arrested if not charged. That you think that the reason for that is that Wolter fears that the photos admissibility would be challenged by the defence because of the way the evidence was allegedly obtained while evidence from the tape, which no longer existed, and which was found in the very same way was admitted, even though the defence challenged that, is bonkers.

It tickles me that you think Stellander reads here.
There are very good reasons why such photos may not be sufficient for bringing charges and we?ve already been over those.   Do you seriously believe that rhe Germans have divulged every scrap of evidence they have on Bruckner to the general public?  What makes you believe that?  I like how you?re so convinced there can only be two options here - either Stellander lied or the source lied and have absolutely closed your mind to the possibility no one lied.

 As for the video tape evidence in the rape trial - it would never have even got to trial had there not been the supporting DNA evidence linking Bruckner to the victim?s bed.  Without that hair we?d all be none the wiser.  The absence of hair, or something like it, is why the case against CB in the Madeleine McCann case hasn?t happened and why we have no official word about the existence of photographic supporting evidence.  The German authorities need more. The English authorities maybe think there?s enough anyway hence why they?re pushing for extradition.

Why wouldn?t Stellander read here? He?s no one special, just another McCann basher with a slightly higher profile than the majority of bashers who has seemingly devoted his entire life to solving the case without having access to all the case files.  This forum is quite well known amongst the online community discussing the case and Stellander has close links to another online forum, members of whom have also posted here.
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