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Offline gilet

Re: THE MORALS ( or lack of of leaving 3 children under 4 alone)
« Reply #165 on: September 23, 2013, 12:08:00 PM »
That's really a very unfair comment Jazzy.  Hundreds of Portuguese people including civilians, both police forces, coast guards and air rescue spent days scouring the land and sea around Praia da Luz for her for days on end.  Amaral didn't search but then that wasn't his job.

Mere days for a missing child? I can understand that for civilians but for the authorities?

As for Amaral, the specific idea of him searching physically is not the crucial point. He was co-ordinating the search and as it is clear from his own words that he did not really from the very first few days believe anyone other than the McCanns were involved surely that belief would have had a massive effect on the actual conduct of the police search, deployment of resources, follow-up of potential leads etc?


stephen25000

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Re: THE MORALS ( or lack of of leaving 3 children under 4 alone)
« Reply #166 on: September 23, 2013, 12:09:55 PM »
That is merely your opinion. The fact that there had actually been no police inquiry pursued at all in Portugal for much of this period and only latterly has such an inquiry been pursued from the UK suggests to me that all possibilities have not been looked into. Private detectives (even had they been the best) were never going to pursue all potential leads.

Please tell me why did the PJ stop investigating an abduction ?

Offline gilet

Re: THE MORALS ( or lack of of leaving 3 children under 4 alone)
« Reply #167 on: September 23, 2013, 12:10:18 PM »
Rubbish.

What an in-depth response? Not!
 
Unfortunately it is your response which exhibits those traits not the comment you are replying to. The fact is that the Files and other comments from Amaral etc demonstrate that the focus of the search was not on a missing child but a pair of supposedly guilty parents.

Offline gilet

Re: THE MORALS ( or lack of of leaving 3 children under 4 alone)
« Reply #168 on: September 23, 2013, 12:13:35 PM »
Please tell me why did the PJ stop investigating an abduction ?

I have no direct information as to why that happened. I presume the guidance of the co-ordinator of the investigation or the judge overseeing the case was involved.

Amaral tells us it was because of discrepancies in statements. As a serving police officer he surely would have been aware that it is very rare (and indeed very suspicious) if all statements tally. As that is the only reason he has presented as far as I am aware then it seems rather flimsy to me and his own refusal to contemplate a reconstruction in June 2007 to iron out such discrepancies seems to suggest that there was no overriding need to do so.

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Offline LagosBen

Re: THE MORALS ( or lack of of leaving 3 children under 4 alone)
« Reply #169 on: September 23, 2013, 02:09:30 PM »
And your proof for this alleged event is....?

Ah the old fall back question. ?>)()<


And your proof that Madeleine wasn't abducted?

Offline LagosBen

Re: THE MORALS ( or lack of of leaving 3 children under 4 alone)
« Reply #170 on: September 23, 2013, 02:11:45 PM »
Please tell me why did the PJ stop investigating an abduction ?

You would have to ask Amaral or Paiva that question...

Oh no wait a minute, did'nt Paiva himself say at the first Trial  words to the effect of "Due to Amarals Thesis things were not looked at"...or words very similar.

ferryman

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Re: THE MORALS ( or lack of of leaving 3 children under 4 alone)
« Reply #171 on: September 23, 2013, 02:15:34 PM »
I have no direct information as to why that happened. I presume the guidance of the co-ordinator of the investigation or the judge overseeing the case was involved.

Amaral tells us it was because of discrepancies in statements. As a serving police officer he surely would have been aware that it is very rare (and indeed very suspicious) if all statements tally. As that is the only reason he has presented as far as I am aware then it seems rather flimsy to me and his own refusal to contemplate a reconstruction in June 2007 to iron out such discrepancies seems to suggest that there was no overriding need to do so.

Amaral tells us it was because of discrepancies in statements. As a serving police officer he surely would have been aware that it is very rare (and indeed very suspicious) if all statements tally.

Perhaps slightly off-topic, but there's something else I'm even more astounded Amaral, as a senior serving policeman in the PJ, appeared unaware of -- that the PJ (just like the British police force and, I think, most police forces around the world) take statements from witnesses individually, not jointly.

If Amaral is to be believed, the Gaspars gave a joint statement.

And Amaral got (important) details of what Mrs Gaspar said wrong.

Offline Jazzy


Rachel Granada

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Re: THE MORALS ( or lack of of leaving 3 children under 4 alone)
« Reply #173 on: September 23, 2013, 05:01:14 PM »
Amaral tells us it was because of discrepancies in statements. As a serving police officer he surely would have been aware that it is very rare (and indeed very suspicious) if all statements tally.

Perhaps slightly off-topic, but there's something else I'm even more astounded Amaral, as a senior serving policeman in the PJ, appeared unaware of -- that the PJ (just like the British police force and, I think, most police forces around the world) take statements from witnesses individually, not jointly.

If Amaral is to be believed, the Gaspars gave a joint statement.

And Amaral got (important) details of what Mrs Gaspar said wrong.

Amaral shouldn't even have known about the Gaspar statements until after the files were released, yet he clearly did.  So someone in the PJ was still leaking, it seems.