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Offline Brietta

Re: WAS GONCALO AMARAL DOOMED BEFORE HE EVEN STARTED
« Reply #45 on: July 16, 2015, 12:31:34 PM »
According to Gonçalo, Jane identified Murat during the undercover operation as the man she had seen carrying a child that night by the way he walked.  The next day Murat was designated an arguido but subsequently exempted from suspicion following extensive investigation of his background and movements which included undercover surveillance and phone tapping.

So in a nutshell, whatever Amaral thought of JT in the beginning, I fear credible did not feature in the end.

Mr Amaral didn't seem to get very much right about anything to do with the investigation ... and if Jane Tanner told him Murat was his man ... where is the signed statement in the files to that effect?  and wouldn't Murat have been subject to arrest, not just being made an arguido, given the police suspicions which led to that process and eye witness testimony identifying him as the person carrying the child Jane Tanner believed was Madeleine?


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But she admitted: "I simply don't know if I could identify again the man I saw that night.

I've never pointed the finger at Robert Murat because I simply don't know if it was him or not.

"I would say the man I saw was more local, or Mediterranean looking, rather than British.

He had dark, almost black, long hair and had swarthy skin.

"He was dressed in that sort of smart casual way European people dress."

Miss Tanner, a mother of two, said Madeleine's parents Kate and Gerry have told her she shouldn't feel any guilt about what happened.

Though some details of Miss Tanner's interview emerged at the weekend, it was broadcast in full on BBC1's Panorama programme last night.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-495092/Tapas-Nine-witness-says-Mediterranean-man-took-Madeleine.html#ixzz3g3K2Vnlj
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline pathfinder73

Re: WAS GONCALO AMARAL DOOMED BEFORE HE EVEN STARTED
« Reply #46 on: July 16, 2015, 12:35:44 PM »
Mr Amaral didn't seem to get very much right about anything to do with the investigation ... and if Jane Tanner told him Murat was his man ... where is the signed statement in the files to that effect?  and wouldn't Murat have been subject to arrest, not just being made an arguido, given the police suspicions which led to that process and eye witness testimony identifying him as the person carrying the child Jane Tanner believed was Madeleine?


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But she admitted: "I simply don't know if I could identify again the man I saw that night.

I've never pointed the finger at Robert Murat because I simply don't know if it was him or not.

"I would say the man I saw was more local, or Mediterranean looking, rather than British.

He had dark, almost black, long hair and had swarthy skin.

"He was dressed in that sort of smart casual way European people dress."

Miss Tanner, a mother of two, said Madeleine's parents Kate and Gerry have told her she shouldn't feel any guilt about what happened.

Though some details of Miss Tanner's interview emerged at the weekend, it was broadcast in full on BBC1's Panorama programme last night.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-495092/Tapas-Nine-witness-says-Mediterranean-man-took-Madeleine.html#ixzz3g3K2Vnlj

He had dark, almost black, long hair and had swarthy skin.

Kate thought he had a hair cut between sightings then.
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline Carana

Re: WAS GONCALO AMARAL DOOMED BEFORE HE EVEN STARTED
« Reply #47 on: July 16, 2015, 12:53:25 PM »
He had dark, almost black, long hair and had swarthy skin.

Kate thought he had a hair cut between sightings then.

Jane saw a man from a side view; the Smiths saw someone heading in their direction. Unless the Smiths had had a reason to turn back and observe how long his hair was at the back, I don't see the discrepancy.

There are of course differences, but sufficient similarities to wonder if it could have been the same person.

Offline G-Unit

Re: WAS GONCALO AMARAL DOOMED BEFORE HE EVEN STARTED
« Reply #48 on: July 16, 2015, 12:56:48 PM »
Jane saw a man from a side view; the Smiths saw someone heading in their direction. Unless the Smiths had had a reason to turn back and observe how long his hair was at the back, I don't see the discrepancy.

There are of course differences, but sufficient similarities to wonder if it could have been the same person.

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Offline Brietta

Re: WAS GONCALO AMARAL DOOMED BEFORE HE EVEN STARTED
« Reply #49 on: July 16, 2015, 01:13:26 PM »
He had dark, almost black, long hair and had swarthy skin.

Kate thought he had a hair cut between sightings then.

From the information available to me Dr Kate McCann did not record seeing anyone ... what makes you think she did?
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline pathfinder73

Re: WAS GONCALO AMARAL DOOMED BEFORE HE EVEN STARTED
« Reply #50 on: July 16, 2015, 02:25:26 PM »
From the information available to me Dr Kate McCann did not record seeing anyone ... what makes you think she did?

What we know is Tannerman has been eliminated and SY had to get the hidden Smithman file and use it on CW 5 years later.
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline Brietta

Re: WAS GONCALO AMARAL DOOMED BEFORE HE EVEN STARTED
« Reply #51 on: July 16, 2015, 03:19:03 PM »
What we know is Tannerman has been eliminated and SY had to get the hidden Smithman file and use it on CW 5 years later.

Interesting though it undoubtedly is I think your assessment of the situation could very well be at a tangent to what may actually be the thinking ... then nothing at all new there.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....