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Offline Holly Goodhead

« Last Edit: February 22, 2016, 04:23:07 PM by Holly Goodhead »
Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?

Offline Holly Goodhead

Re: Who Asked For The Carpets (etc.) To Be Burned?
« Reply #1 on: February 21, 2016, 10:35:10 PM »
If DS Jones suspected JB from the off, as he claims, given the "cough/chuckle" why instigate the destruction of evidence ie carpets?
Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?

Offline Myster

Re: Who Asked For The Carpets (etc.) To Be Burned?
« Reply #2 on: February 22, 2016, 08:56:29 AM »
Stan prolly had instructions from his higher namesake, before he started to answer back.
It's one of them cases, in'it... one of them f*ckin' cases.

Offline scipio_usmc

Re: Who Asked For The Carpets (etc.) To Be Burned?
« Reply #3 on: February 29, 2016, 03:42:02 PM »
If DS Jones suspected JB from the off, as he claims, given the "cough/chuckle" why instigate the destruction of evidence ie carpets?

He didn't suspect Jeremy straight away.  Things he learned from the family and Jeremy's changed reactions set off his "Spider Sense" but he still wasn't solidly considering Jeremy until well after the items hey felt were of no value were burned.   They took those items they considered of evidentiary value. Even now the police don't really care about such items having been gotten rid of.  People who want to suggest Jeremy is innocent wish such items still existed to test hoping to find a way to use it to Jeremy's advantage.

Maybe just maybe there was a little of Nevill's blood on his side of the bedding to help prove he was shot there but he could have been shot there without leaving any blood.  Proving there was no blood would not help refute he had been shot there but the presence of blood would prove it so there would be no upside for Jeremy only harm if such had been tested.  This is why it makes no sense for supporters to claim police did it to try to hide evidence of innocence.

 
“...there are three classes of intellects: one which comprehends by itself; another which appreciates what others comprehend; and a third which neither comprehends by itself nor by the showing of others; the first is the most excellent, the second is good, the third is useless.”  Niccolò Machiavelli

Offline adam

Re: Who Asked For The Carpets (etc.) To Be Burned?
« Reply #4 on: July 13, 2016, 12:18:56 PM »
From the 2002 appeal. It is conclusive that Neville received his first shots in the main bedroom. Some people have previously claimed this was not the case.

57. Five carpet samples taken from the main bedroom were examined and found to bear numerous spots of dripped blood. These were tested and found to match the blood groupings of June Bamber. Wallpaper from the hallway to the left-hand side of the kitchen door was found, on examination, to be stained with human blood consistent with the blood grouping shared by Nevill Bamber and the twin boys. Since the boys seem to have been shot in their beds, it is a clear inference that this was Mr. Bamber's blood.

60. Found in or just outside the bedroom were thirteen cartridge cases. Seven would account for the shots into June Bamber, two for the wounds suffered by Sheila Caffell, leaving four cartridge cases that had been fired at Nevill Bamber. Three further cartridge cases were found in the kitchen, with a further case on the stairs leading up from the kitchen. If one accepts that the four shots to the head which would have immobilised and killed Nevill Bamber were fired in the kitchen where his body was recovered, it would follow that he had received the less serious injuries upstairs in the bedroom and was then able to make his way downstairs where he was subsequently killed
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Offline adam

Re: Who Asked For The Carpets (etc.) To Be Burned?
« Reply #5 on: July 13, 2016, 12:37:59 PM »
The missed shot out of the 26 was obviously on the stairs as Neville was running away. There was no chance of missing any of the other shots. Which were all contact or at very close range.

This shows Bamber was in pursuit of a retreating Neville and shot at his back. People have previously suggested Bamber went downstairs alone to reload, and Neville followed and confronted him in the kitchen.

Offline adam

Re: Who Asked For The Carpets (etc.) To Be Burned?
« Reply #6 on: July 13, 2016, 12:55:33 PM »
There is no way Bamber would have released 7 bullets into June in his opening salvo. After entering the main bedroom. This would have left only 3/4 bullets for Neville.

If June had been shot seven times straight away she would not have walked around for a short period.

He probably fired 4/5 shots into June. Then turned towards Neville and started shooting him. Bamber retreated slightly as Neville started moving out of bed.  Which isn't surprising as Neville is a big man. However four shots hit Neville, but were not fatal.

Neville ran to escape or get armed rather than confront the attacker. Which again is not surprising. Bamber having the chance to fire one missed shot at Neville on the stairs while chasing him.

Bamber fired more bullets into June when returning upstairs.  She had moved from the bed so he knew she could still be alive.
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