What advantage was achieved by lying about the Huelva trip?

[Alfie]

No you've excused it not explained it and when you, hopefully, see the difference Alfie then this debate can move forward.

Semantics.  Let's face it we're at an impasse.  The lady's not for turning!

[ShiningInLuz]

Likewise it is speculation that the truth was disclosed to the Mccanns.

It works both ways SIL

.... and judging by the way that on that day of the many questions, Amaral told Gerry untruth/s to try and make him confess, I have little faith that Amaral would hesitate to hide things from Gerry and Kate.   These were untruths implicating Gerry that he KNEW were not true.  At that stage Gerry must have finally totally understood that they were in great danger of being framed.
I cant remember what the untruth implicating Gerry was/were, but someone will remember

Personally, based on that, I think it likely that Amaral would take any advantage he could, if he felt he could nail them.

So what Brietta said seems far more likely than what you said

IMO

It does not work both ways.  Two wrongs do not make a right.

And you have followed that with a great deal of speculation.  All that is happening is that the facts are getting clouded.  Is confusion good?

What we can reasonably claim to know about PJ understanding of the dog alerts is that the Rebelo team put further questions to Mr Grime in order to clarify the capability and actions of the dogs.  Thus to assume the Amaral team knew fully about the capability of the dogs is a giant leap in the dark.

I have yet to see how the dogs were brought into the PJ investigation, why Martin Grime was involved, precisely what Mark Harrison thought of Grime's actions etc.  Until we have that, there is no provenance for this part of the case, merely speculation.

For the record, I have not said what happened on the day.  I have merely pointed out that the logistics of a combined normal search plus dog search under video would be difficult with the McCann family plus friends present.

[Mr Gray]

It does not work both ways.  Two wrongs do not make a right.

And you have followed that with a great deal of speculation.  All that is happening is that the facts are getting clouded.  Is confusion good?

What we can reasonably claim to know about PJ understanding of the dog alerts is that the Rebelo team put further questions to Mr Grime in order to clarify the capability and actions of the dogs.  Thus to assume the Amaral team knew fully about the capability of the dogs is a giant leap in the dark.

I have yet to see how the dogs were brought into the PJ investigation, why Martin Grime was involved, precisely what Mark Harrison thought of Grime's actions etc.  Until we have that, there is no provenance for this part of the case, merely speculation.

For the record, I have not said what happened on the day.  I have merely pointed out that the logistics of a combined normal search plus dog search under video would be difficult with the McCann family plus friends present.

What we know is the amaral team misunderstood the value of the alerts and in the archiving report the alerts are listed as one of the reasons the McCanns were made arguidos
No speculation a fact

[Robittybob1]

What we know is the amaral team misunderstood the value of the alerts and in the archiving report the alerts are listed as one of the reasons the McCanns were made arguidos
No speculation a fact

That is fair enough.  Being made arguido is not even the same as being arrested.

[ferryman]

That is fair enough.  Being made arguido is not even the same as being arrested.

And easy for people, behind the armour-plating of their computer screens, to say.

Portuguese police have named both parents of Madeleine McCann as formal suspects in her disappearance.
Gerry McCann was officially given "arguido" status about 12 hours after his wife Kate. They had been questioned separately for more than 24 hours.

No bail conditions or charges have been imposed and both deny any involvement in Madeleine's disappearance on 3 May.

Earlier, a family spokesman said Portuguese police believed Kate McCann had killed her daughter accidentally.

Asked whether the couple, both 39, were still protesting their innocence, family spokesman David Hughes said: "They certainly are."

'Very low'

Mr McCann refused to speak to reporters as he left police headquarters in Portimao after eight hours of questioning.

It is understood Kate McCann was told she would only face two years in prison if she confessed.

She underwent a second day of questioning on Friday.

Under Portuguese law, police are not allowed to publicly give details of ongoing investigations.

Jon Corner, a close family friend, said Kate McCann had told him officers had tried to "cut her a deal" where she would only serve two years in jail.

He added that she was feeling "very down, very low" and "deflated".

Another family representative said officers believed that traces of four-year-old Madeleine's blood were in the McCanns' car, hired 25 days after she vanished.

Mr McCann arrived at the police headquarters at 1535 BST. He was not questioned with Mrs McCann, who left shortly afterwards.

'Ordinary family'

The "suspect" status allows the authorities to put certain questions to Mr and Mrs McCann, and also gives them the right to remain silent.

   
ARGUIDO/ARGUIDA STATUS
Officially a suspect
Bestowed by police or requested by individual
Right to remain silent
Right to a lawyer
Must report to police every five days
The first formal suspect was Robert Murat, a British man living locally.

Mr and Mrs McCann have not been arrested or charged.

McCann family spokesman David Hughes said: "She is suspected of accidentally killing her daughter."

In his latest diary entry on a website publicising the search for Madeleine, Mr McCann wrote: "The suggestion that Kate is involved in Madeleine's disappearance is ludicrous.

"Anyone who knows anything about 3 May knows that Kate is completely innocent. We will fight this all the way and we will not stop looking for Madeleine."

Meanwhile, friends of the family said that Mrs McCann has been told by her lawyer that she could be charged in connection with the disappearance of her daughter.

It is understood that after questioning Mrs McCann on Thursday, police said they had 22 questions they wanted to ask her during Friday's interview.

Madeleine McCann
Madeleine was last seen on 3 May
Samples

The McCanns, from Rothley, Leicestershire, say they left Madeleine in the family's holiday apartment in Praia da Luz while they went to eat in a nearby restaurant.

Mrs McCann had been interviewed by police the day after Madeleine disappeared, but Thursday was the first time her lawyer had been present.

In a statement released before her interview on Thursday, she appealed to her daughter's abductors, saying: "It is not too late - please let her go or call the police."

She said: "We came to Portugal an ordinary family of five. We just want to know what happened on 3 May and want to be able to go home one family, reunited."

A British sniffer dog picked up the scent of a dead body in the apartment and samples, including suspected traces of blood, have been recovered from the scene.

The UK's Forensic Science Service has spent the past month analysing them.

It's a lovely thing to be declared arguido

Breeze in the park, in fact.

[Robittybob1]

And easy for people, behind the armour-plating of their computer screens, to say.

It's a lovely thing to be declared arguido

Breeze in the park, in fact.

I have heard Gerry saying positive things about it.

[slartibartfast]

And easy for people, behind the armour-plating of their computer screens, to say.

It's a lovely thing to be declared arguido

Breeze in the park, in fact.

You wonder why anyone would request it?

[Mr Gray]

You wonder why anyone would request it?

It's pretty obvious if you have paid attention to the snippets of Portuguese law we have seen here

[Robittybob1]

....

It's a lovely thing to be declared arguido

Breeze in the park, in fact.

"Must report to police every five days" but it didn't stop them returning to England.