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Offline G-Unit

Re: How accurate would be Martin Smith's ID of Gerry MaCann?
« Reply #210 on: March 06, 2018, 07:23:54 AM »
Why go to the bother?

I doubt any identification evidence unless there was unequivocal proof would be admissible in court for the simple reason that the McCanns had had so much media exposure that it would have been unsafe.
Mr McCluskey's recollection was certainly muddied by such http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/RI_Mc.htm and who is to say the same phenomenon didn't affect Mr Smith http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MARTIN_SMITH.htm whose family did not back up his opinion.

They didn't have to keep Madeleine in the public eye ... but they did.

They didn't have to raise funds to do that and to keep looking for her using PIs ... but they did.

They didn't have to write a book to boost the funds, they could have put all the income from their best seller into their own bank account as Amaral did ... but they did not.

They could have moved back home and dropped off the radar ... they loved their daughter too much not to continue looking for her ... but they kept her name to the fore despite the social media attacks they took as a result.

If that was all done as part of a double bluff ... in my opinion there would have been far easier and less expensive options both in money and emotion to do that ... and with a lot less effort.

You don't know what motivated the McCanns to do the things they did, you just think you do.
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: How accurate would be Martin Smith's ID of Gerry MaCann?
« Reply #211 on: March 06, 2018, 07:33:19 AM »
You don't know what motivated the McCanns to do the things they did, you just think you do.
If it seems logical at least that is a start.
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Offline slartibartfast

Re: How accurate would be Martin Smith's ID of Gerry MaCann?
« Reply #212 on: March 06, 2018, 08:04:37 AM »
If it seems logical at least that is a start.

It is also first step on the road to libel...
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: How accurate would be Martin Smith's ID of Gerry MaCann?
« Reply #213 on: March 06, 2018, 08:07:15 AM »
It is also first step on the road to libel...

Not if you say they acted with good intentions

Offline G-Unit

Re: How accurate would be Martin Smith's ID of Gerry MaCann?
« Reply #214 on: March 06, 2018, 10:16:30 AM »
If it seems logical at least that is a start.

In y opinion the poster is saying that guilty people would fade into obscurity, innocent people would take all the actions listed. Can the poster prove that's true? I think not.
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: How accurate would be Martin Smith's ID of Gerry MaCann?
« Reply #215 on: March 06, 2018, 10:34:04 AM »
In y opinion the poster is saying that guilty people would fade into obscurity, innocent people would take all the actions listed. Can the poster prove that's true? I think not.
I'm sure Brietta would have a fair crack at it.
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: How accurate would be Martin Smith's ID of Gerry MaCann?
« Reply #216 on: March 06, 2018, 10:46:14 AM »
It is also first step on the road to libel...
In what way?
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Offline Lace

Re: How accurate would be Martin Smith's ID of Gerry MaCann?
« Reply #217 on: March 06, 2018, 11:35:29 AM »
In y opinion the poster is saying that guilty people would fade into obscurity, innocent people would take all the actions listed. Can the poster prove that's true? I think not.

I can't imagine a guilty person wanting a review of the case,  and then wanting the investigation.

Offline slartibartfast

Re: How accurate would be Martin Smith's ID of Gerry MaCann?
« Reply #218 on: March 06, 2018, 11:43:38 AM »
In what way?

Describing someone’s known actions isn’t libel
Describing your opinions of someone’s known actions isn’t libel
Describing someone’s motivations or thoughts behind their actions can be libel.
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Offline G-Unit

Re: How accurate would be Martin Smith's ID of Gerry MaCann?
« Reply #219 on: March 06, 2018, 12:50:49 PM »
I can't imagine a guilty person wanting a review of the case,  and then wanting the investigation.

A review which identified and publicised shortcomings in the original investigation might have been seen as desirable.
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Offline Carana

Re: How accurate would be Martin Smith's ID of Gerry MaCann?
« Reply #220 on: March 06, 2018, 01:35:12 PM »
A review which identified and publicised shortcomings in the original investigation might have been seen as desirable.


The UK side did, however diplomatically phrased. I have yet to see a post-mortem on the PT side.

I won't be holding my breath on one any time soon. I'm not being disparaging over the valiant efforts on the part of some, but there are simply too many aspects to take into consideration. Maybe in 10 years' time.