Author Topic: Did making the files public damage the investigation?  (Read 4175 times)

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Offline Sunny

Re: Did making the files public damage the investigation?
« Reply #15 on: July 23, 2018, 08:39:35 PM »
I imagine that making the files public will put some people off coming forward although I gather that at least 2 members of this forum have sent information to scotland yard.  It clearly didn't put them off.

Perhaps they could answer?
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Offline jassi

Re: Did making the files public damage the investigation?
« Reply #16 on: July 23, 2018, 09:41:22 PM »
I imagine that making the files public will put some people off coming forward although I gather that at least 2 members of this forum have sent information to scotland yard.  It clearly didn't put them off.

Perhaps they could answer?

IMO there's scant likelihood that either were taken seriously and in any case it is not UK policy to disclose statements is the way that the Portuguese did.
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Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: Did making the files public damage the investigation?
« Reply #17 on: July 23, 2018, 09:52:46 PM »
I presume you would have no concerns at all about dobbing in a friend and having your statement plastered all over the net after no charges are brought against them, some however might find the situation somewhat awkward, embarrassing or even damaging to themselves.

Oh I don't know. The McCanns did not feel awkward, embarrassed or suffered any damage by telling their story about a open window , whooshing curtains jemmied shutter and abductor...they went straight on the defensive!
 Dobbing in a friend ? I would do If they were harming their children absolutely!

No charges does not mean they are innocent.



It doesn’t have to be about friendship - it could prevent employees dobbing in their boses, petty criminals dobbing in a gang member or fellow criminal, etc etc.


As has been mentioned. Information can be relayed anonymously like the 'Brenda Layland file' composed by anonymous supporters and sent to SY- who chucked it. 

Also gangstas can get new IDs etc. they can also 'dob in' anonymously as well.
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Offline Erngath

Re: Did making the files public damage the investigation?
« Reply #18 on: July 23, 2018, 10:38:57 PM »
IMO there's scant likelihood that either were taken seriously and in any case it is not UK policy to disclose statements is the way that the Portuguese did.

Perhaps this time the UK policy is better.
In my opinion in this regard it is.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Did making the files public damage the investigation?
« Reply #19 on: July 23, 2018, 10:57:30 PM »
Oh I don't know. The McCanns did not feel awkward, embarrassed or suffered any damage by telling their story about a open window , whooshing curtains jemmied shutter and abductor...they went straight on the defensive!
 Dobbing in a friend ? I would do If they were harming their children absolutely!

No charges does not mean they are innocent.



As has been mentioned. Information can be relayed anonymously like the 'Brenda Layland file' composed by anonymous supporters and sent to SY- who chucked it. 

Also gangstas can get new IDs etc. they can also 'dob in' anonymously as well.
We’re not talking about information sent anonymously to the police, we are talking about witnesses coming forward to make statements to the PJ, statements that will be released with full identity disclosure if and when the case is shelved again.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: Did making the files public damage the investigation?
« Reply #20 on: July 23, 2018, 11:14:36 PM »
We’re not talking about information sent anonymously to the police, we are talking about witnesses coming forward to make statements to the PJ, statements that will be released with full identity disclosure if and when the case is shelved again.


I know what the discussion is about. I am saying witnesses can be protected and if they do not want to be witneses they can give information anonymously!

The witnesses knew if it came to court they would  ALL be asked to speak in an open court. Are you saying the Gaspars are thick and didn't know this?
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Did making the files public damage the investigation?
« Reply #21 on: July 23, 2018, 11:19:41 PM »

I know what the discussion is about. I am saying witnesses can be protected and if they do not want to be witneses they can give information anonymously!

The witnesses knew if it came to court they would  ALL be asked to speak in an open court. Are you saying the Gaspars are thick and didn't know this?
Are you putting words in my mouth again?  No I am not saying that.  I’m saying they had no idea that if the case did not come to court, and that if no prosecution was brought that their statements would be plastered all over the internet and be used as source material for hundreds of saddoes, anonymous beings some of whom have even appropriated their own surnames into their online ids, to pore over for the rest of eternity.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: Did making the files public damage the investigation?
« Reply #22 on: July 23, 2018, 11:41:22 PM »
Are you putting words in my mouth again?  No I am not saying that.  I’m saying they had no idea that if the case did not come to court, and that if no prosecution was brought that their statements would be plastered all over the internet and be used as source material for hundreds of saddoes, anonymous beings some of whom have even appropriated their own surnames into their online ids, to pore over for the rest of eternity.

Have they contacted you and told you this?.  Have Gerry and David sued this women for her dobbing thingy? if not why not? I suspect they would be well aware that this was a public showing of teeth. what they knew and what they know now has not resulted in a death has it? Have the Gaspars retracted? No. so nothing to see here. They have nothing to be embarrassed about, they did their duty for little 3 year old girl. It took a lot of guts to do what they did. IMO.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Did making the files public damage the investigation?
« Reply #23 on: July 23, 2018, 11:49:02 PM »
Have they contacted you and told you this?.  Have Gerry and David sued this women for her dobbing thingy? if not why not? I suspect they would be well aware that this was a public showing of teeth. what they knew and what they know now has not resulted in a death has it? Have the Gaspars retracted? No. so nothing to see here. They have nothing to be embarrassed about, they did their duty for little 3 year old girl. It took a lot of guts to do what they did. IMO.
Have who contacted me and told me what?  I don’t think you can sue people for making a statement to the police, because then that would be another reason why people would not come forward with information. Death?  Who mentioned death?  The Gaspars have made no public statement at all, and why would they?  Their statements are not and never have been news, the interest is all internet based and that’s probably where theynwould prefer it to stay IMO.  In any case Dr Gaspar (male) had nothing bad to say about anyone, if anything he spoke in glowing terms about Gerry. 
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: Did making the files public damage the investigation?
« Reply #24 on: July 24, 2018, 12:22:22 AM »
Have who contacted me and told me what?  I don’t think you can sue people for making a statement to the police, because then that would be another reason why people would not come forward with information. Death?  Who mentioned death?  The Gaspars have made no public statement at all, and why would they?  Their statements are not and never have been news, the interest is all internet based and that’s probably where theynwould prefer it to stay IMO.  In any case Dr Gaspar (male) had nothing bad to say about anyone, if anything he spoke in glowing terms about Gerry.


Oh Good, The Gaspars didn't complain, they were not sued, no one died, so all is good. Sorry what was your issue with this ?
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