Did Brenda Leyland Have the Right to Due Process ?

[Brietta]

Of course and you are entitled to your opinion as Brenda thought she was too, until the mainstream media made her into a scapegoat IMO.

As far as I know Sally Bercow tweeted once ... and her offending tweet cost her dearly.  Was she a scapegoat?

[faithlilly]

You asked if it was a police matter and I asked “What difference does that make to whether or not you feel this man has been victimized by the media and is worthy of your sympathy?”

I don’t know the story as I’ve been away but generally I’m not sure what the media getting involved actually achieves. Rictual humiliation? The thing with that is for every individual posting a comment, appalled at his actions there’ll be another praising his courage to act as he did......Tommy Robinson is a case in point. What really is so wrong with the law doing what it is supposed to do, without let or hinderance ?

[Robittybob1]

Cite for “100 or so” please.

It was a guess.  No cite needed.

[Vertigo Swirl]

It was a guess.  No cite needed.

A cite was provided and it wasn’t a guess, it was an estimate.

[Robittybob1]

A cite was provided and it wasn’t a guess, it was an estimate.

OK, estimate and not a guess.

[Vertigo Swirl]

I don’t know the story as I’ve been away but generally I’m not sure what the media getting involved actually achieves. Rictual humiliation? The thing with that is for every individual posting a comment, appalled at his actions there’ll be another praising his courage to act as he did......Tommy Robinson is a case in point. What really is so wrong with the law doing what it is supposed to do, without let or hinderance ?

Hmm, you may struggle to find many people praising the actions of the racist as “courageous” - depends which websites you visit I guess.  Nevertheless you have still failed to give me a straight answer.

[faithlilly]

Hmm, you may struggle to find many people praising the actions of the racist as “courageous” - depends which websites you visit I guess.  Nevertheless you have still failed to give me a straight answer.

Have you seen the praise heaped on Tommy Robinson for his actions?

Just because you and I think someone’s behaviour is abhorrent doesn’t mean your neighbour will......and that’s why individuals should be investigated, charged and tried by the relevant legal authorities and not the media.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Have you seen the praise heaped on Tommy Robinson for his actions?

Just because you and I think someone’s behaviour is abhorrent doesn’t mean your neighbour will......and that’s why individuals should be investigated, charged and tried by the relevant legal authorities and not the media.

Question still dodged.  Tommy Robinson was on a mission for justice as he saw it, obviously some people who follow these misguided and vigilantie-ish “justice seekers” are going to heap praise on that sort of individual, it’s a little bit different from an uncouth old man racially verbally abusing a perfectly innocent woman on an aeroplane.  I’m sure you can see the difference if you try hard enough.  Now, do you have some sympathy for the man at the heart of the racist on a plane story or not? 

[Vertigo Swirl]

By highlighting individuals’ anti-social, hateful, sexist or racist behaviour does the media not invite the public to reinforce how vile the majority of decent people find such behaviour and in turn does that not discourage others from behaving reprehensibly?  Is that not the possibly unintended consequence of such media coverage and is that not a good thing or is it a bad thing?

[faithlilly]

Question still dodged.  Tommy Robinson was on a mission for justice as he saw it, obviously some people who follow these misguided and vigilantie-ish “justice seekers” are going to heap praise on that sort of individual, it’s a little bit different from an uncouth old man racially verbally abusing a perfectly innocent woman on an aeroplane.  I’m sure you can see the difference if you try hard enough.  Now, do you have some sympathy for the man at the heart of the racist on a plane story or not?

I’m sure the old man your speaking about felt justified in his tirade too and I’m sure you’d get misguided individuals who’d agree.

As to your question, the gentleman is a despicable individual who deserves to be punished but within the law, not within what is deemed acceptable to the Sky news editor.

[Vertigo Swirl]

I’m sure the old man your speaking about felt justified in his tirade too and I’m sure you’d get misguided individuals who’d agree.

As to your question, the gentleman is a despicable individual who deserves to be punished but within the law, not within what is deemed acceptable to the Sky news editor.

So docI take it that you wholly disagree with all the media coverage surrounding this case?  Imagine one of the Tapas group was filmed making obscene gestures in the vicinity of small children and someone went to the papers about it or tweeted it, and it went viral, would you be outraged if the media picked up the story?

[faithlilly]

So docI take it that you wholly disagree with all the media coverage surrounding this case?  Imagine one of the Tapas group was filmed making obscene gestures in the vicinity of small children and someone went to the papers about it or tweeted it, and it went viral, would you be outraged if the media picked up the story?

I’ve been away so I’ve no idea about this case other than what I’ve read here. Again if one of the Tapas group was acting illegally then l would hope the law would take its course, if not it’s none of our business.

[Vertigo Swirl]

I’ve been away so I’ve no idea about this case other than what I’ve read here. Again if one of the Tapas group was acting illegally then l would hope the law would take its course, if not it’s none of our business.

I guess you would also then support Philip Green’s right to due process?

[faithlilly]

I guess you would also then support Philip Green’s right to due process?

Isn’t that the only civiliised way to behave ? What else do you suggest, mob rule ?

[Vertigo Swirl]

Isn’t that the only civiliised way to behave ? What else do you suggest, mob rule ?

I’m not a fan of mob rule, but I am a fan of freedom of the press to report whatever they see fit, so long as it is accurate and not fanciful.  How about you?