Has Scotland Yard dodged a bullet in the Maddie case?

[misty]

Or they have located Madeleine but can't recover her due to the Laws of a particular Country concerning Minors and the treatment there of.

I'd really like to think they have located her alive  but I didn't get that impression from Gerry's "Pearl" radio broadcast.

[Mr Gray]

Why would it be humiliating for the Portuguese. 

Don't you think they would simply be glad that the case was solved. Not that I think Scotland Yard will solve the case these days.

So you are attesting that the Portuguese police are deliberately trying to scupper Scotland Yard's enquiry just to save face?

Non cooperation would be how I would describe it... For obvious reasons... Why no joint investigation

[Eleanor]

Why would it be humiliating for the Portuguese. 

Don't you think they would simply be glad that the case was solved. Not that I think Scotland Yard will solve the case these days.

So you are attesting that the Portuguese police are deliberately trying to scupper Scotland Yard's enquiry just to save face?

No, Davel didn't say that.  A question mark does not absolve the remark.

[ShiningInLuz]

Non cooperation would be how I would describe it... For obvious reasons... Why no joint investigation

Was there a JIT in the Ben Needham case?

[Mr Gray]

Was there a JIT in the Ben Needham case?

May not have needed one.... Did the UK police interview any suspects in the needham....case

[Vertigo Swirl]

I said 'if'.

And will they have egg on their faces if they are unable to solve the case?

[Sunny]

Non cooperation would be how I would describe it... For obvious reasons... Why no joint investigation

Do you have any evidence of the PJ not co-operating with Scotland Yard and WHY should they do a joint investigation when the alleged crime happened in their country.

Could you see the UK police agreeing to that Davel?

[xtina]

Why will they have egg on their faces?  Most people are grown up enough to realise that the police are not miracle workers and that some cases simply cannot be solved despite the police's best efforts.

supose so .....you can't find something that can never be found ....IMO

most people also know ....SY have added nothing .......

It took them 7 years to get were the PJ were in 1....IMO

[Sunny]

supose so .....you can't find something that can never be found ....IMO

most people also know ....SY have added nothing .......

It took them 7 years to get were the PJ were in 1....IMO

Would that be no evidence of abductor? If so I agree.

[Alice Purjorick]

Non cooperation would be how I would describe it... For obvious reasons... Why no joint investigation

If you mean why no JIT, probably because as a criminal case it is not important enough, despite all the noise.

"A joint investigation team (JIT) is an international cooperation tool based on an agreement between competent authorities - both judicial (judges, prosecutors, investigative judges) and law enforcement - of two or more States, established for a limited duration and for a specific purpose, to carry out criminal investigations in one or more of the involved States".

[Sunny]

No, Davel didn't say that.  A question mark does not absolve the remark.

Davel said this

You may be right... I think they may not have had the help they needed from the Portuguese for obvious reasons

And ths

Because how humiliating would it be for Portugal if SY solved the case

I stand by what I said.

[Mr Gray]

Davel said this

You may be right... I think they may not have had the help they needed from the Portuguese for obvious reasons

And ths

Because how humiliating would it be for Portugal if SY solved the case

I stand by what I said.

I dont particularly care

[Mr Gray]

If you mean why no JIT, probably because as a criminal case it is not important enough, despite all the noise.

"A joint investigation team (JIT) is an international cooperation tool based on an agreement between competent authorities - both judicial (judges, prosecutors, investigative judges) and law enforcement - of two or more States, established for a limited duration and for a specific purpose, to carry out criminal investigations in one or more of the involved States".

......The HO decided it was important enough to spend 12 mill...I wonder who decided it wasnt important enough for  a JIT....probably portugal

[Alice Purjorick]

......The HO decided it was important enough to spend 12 mill...I wonder who decided it wasnt important enough for  a JIT....probably portugal

Eurojust I would imagine or Europol. They rule the roost over such things.

[Mr Gray]

Eurojust I would imagine or Europol. They rule the roost over such things.

I would have thought each individual country would have to agree...

The terms in accordance with which a JIT operates vary from case to case, but they are based on the model JIT agreement as appended to Council Resolution (2017/C 18/01). This resolution “encourages the competent authorities of the Member States that wish to set up a Joint Investigation Team with the competent authorities from other Member States, in accordance with the terms of the Framework Decision and the Convention, or from non-EU States, on the basis of the relevant international instruments, to use, where appropriate, the Model Agreement […] in order to agree upon the modalities for the joint investigation team”.




looks like Im correct...no will...no way