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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Sunny's request for cites
« Reply #180 on: October 20, 2018, 06:55:45 PM »
Davel that has nothing to do with my post. Martin Grime was clear that Eddie didn't alert to decaying pork in a waste bin and wouldn't alert to cooked pork.

The result from scientific experiments and research to date is suggestive that the scent of human and pig decomposing material is so similar that we are unable to 'train' the dog to distinguish between the two.


So if we had a severed foot.... I presume the dog would alert

Why not a severed trotter..

Grime refers  to Eddie not alerting to processed food

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Sunny's request for cites
« Reply #181 on: October 20, 2018, 07:19:32 PM »
The result from scientific experiments and research to date is suggestive that the scent of human and pig decomposing material is so similar that we are unable to 'train' the dog to distinguish between the two.


So if we had a severed foot.... I presume the dog would alert

Why not a severed trotter..

Grime refers  to Eddie not alerting to processed food
That is a presumption.
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Offline Brietta

Re: Sunny's request for cites
« Reply #182 on: October 20, 2018, 08:38:55 PM »
Davel that has nothing to do with my post. Martin Grime was clear that Eddie didn't alert to decaying pork in a waste bin and wouldn't alert to cooked pork.

Unless it is marinated in Petrol and then incinerated ...
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Sunny's request for cites
« Reply #183 on: October 20, 2018, 08:42:17 PM »
That is a presumption.

It's presumption  that the alerts are to cadaver

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Sunny's request for cites
« Reply #184 on: October 20, 2018, 08:43:48 PM »
That is a presumption.

The first  paragraph  is Grime... Then my extrapolation

Offline Brietta

Re: Sunny's request for cites
« Reply #185 on: October 20, 2018, 08:52:52 PM »
Brietta we have already agreed that one, hopefully amicably.

You asked me a question ... to which I replied ... I find your response to that reply dismissive and tiresomely rude.  If you do not wish to make an appropriate response to a question of your asking please have the courtesy not to ask in the first instance.  Thank you
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Sunny's request for cites
« Reply #186 on: October 20, 2018, 10:02:00 PM »
The first  paragraph  is Grime... Then my extrapolation
It could be an interesting experiment.  When does a pig carcass become a decomposed cadaver or pig meat?
Could part of the carcass become decomposed and another part be classed as meat?
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Offline misty

Re: Sunny's request for cites
« Reply #187 on: October 20, 2018, 10:17:23 PM »
It could be an interesting experiment.  When does a pig carcass become a decomposed cadaver or pig meat?
Could part of the carcass become decomposed and another part be classed as meat?

In an abattoir the cadavers are chilled to 3°C & dried immediately after slaughter and remain chilled/frozen. This restricts microbiological activity as well as chemical & physical changes. I guess you'd have to experiment by leaving the meat in various states of storage & at different warmer temperatures then assess the levels of decomposition.
Do your livestock know you are having these musings?

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Sunny's request for cites
« Reply #188 on: October 20, 2018, 10:36:22 PM »
In an abattoir the cadavers are chilled to 3°C & dried immediately after slaughter and remain chilled/frozen. This restricts microbiological activity as well as chemical & physical changes. I guess you'd have to experiment by leaving the meat in various states of storage & at different warmer temperatures then assess the levels of decomposition.
Do your livestock know you are having these musings?
I'm quite superstitious about that.  I have only kind thoughts when I attend my stock.
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