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Offline slartibartfast

Re: The Joana Cipriano case revisited.
« Reply #75 on: October 30, 2018, 12:16:09 PM »
Quote from: Davel on October 30, 2018, 12:10:36 PM
I'm simply stating facts... Facts it seems you cannot counter
She was beaten badly... No real evidence to support the claims of the prosecution.
Her only way of getting out of prison is to admit to the crime and show remorse... So she has no choice... I'm quite convinced this is a misscarrige of justice

Do you have the medical report of her injuries after she was examined by a doctor?
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Offline Angelo222

Re: The Joana Cipriano case revisited.
« Reply #76 on: October 30, 2018, 12:17:14 PM »
Quote from: Davel on October 30, 2018, 12:11:27 PM
Perhaps as you know so much about the case you could list a couple of pieces of evidence

All been done previously.  Leonor claimed to have killed the child accidentally and that is why she was remanded in custody. The torture came days later while she was in custody.  I really think you need to brush up on the facts again.
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Offline Brietta

Re: The Joana Cipriano case revisited.
« Reply #77 on: October 30, 2018, 12:24:15 PM »
Quote from: slartibartfast on October 30, 2018, 12:16:09 PM
Do you have the medical report of her injuries after she was examined by a doctor?

Do hospitals give out that information on patients?
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: The Joana Cipriano case revisited.
« Reply #78 on: October 30, 2018, 12:24:53 PM »
Quote from: slartibartfast on October 30, 2018, 12:16:09 PM
Do you have the medical report of her injuries after she was examined by a doctor?

What I know is the PJ claimed she fell down the stairs... So they admit they were present when the injuries happened.... The court decided they were not telling the truth
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Offline slartibartfast

Re: The Joana Cipriano case revisited.
« Reply #79 on: October 30, 2018, 12:42:29 PM »
Quote from: Brietta on October 30, 2018, 12:24:15 PM
Do hospitals give out that information on patients?

Posters appear to think they have the details of the court case, you would assume it is mentioned there?
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Offline slartibartfast

Re: The Joana Cipriano case revisited.
« Reply #80 on: October 30, 2018, 12:42:59 PM »
Quote from: Davel on October 30, 2018, 12:24:53 PM
What I know is the PJ claimed she fell down the stairs... So they admit they were present when the injuries happened.... The court decided they were not telling the truth

So no medical basis for the badly beaten up?
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: The Joana Cipriano case revisited.
« Reply #81 on: October 30, 2018, 12:48:30 PM »
Quote from: slartibartfast on October 30, 2018, 12:42:29 PM
Posters appear to think they have the details of the court case, you would assume it is mentioned there?

It was and it said her injuries were not consistent with falling down stairs
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: The Joana Cipriano case revisited.
« Reply #82 on: October 30, 2018, 12:56:30 PM »
Quote from: slartibartfast on October 30, 2018, 12:42:59 PM
So no medical basis for the badly beaten up?

The court accepted she had been beaten... The PJ admitted they were there when the injuries happened
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Offline Sunny

Re: The Joana Cipriano case revisited.
« Reply #83 on: October 30, 2018, 01:02:16 PM »
Quote from: Davel on October 30, 2018, 12:56:30 PM
The court accepted she had been beaten... The PJ admitted they were there when the injuries happened

I have read a lot about this supposed beating last night and found nothing where any of the PJ admit they were there Davel. Do you have a cite for that?
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Offline slartibartfast

Re: The Joana Cipriano case revisited.
« Reply #84 on: October 30, 2018, 01:06:18 PM »
Quote from: Davel on October 30, 2018, 12:56:30 PM
The court accepted she had been beaten... The PJ admitted they were there when the injuries happened

But no evidence.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: The Joana Cipriano case revisited.
« Reply #85 on: October 30, 2018, 01:07:18 PM »
Quote from: Sunny on October 30, 2018, 01:02:16 PM
I have read a lot about this supposed beating last night and found nothing where any of the PJ admit they were there Davel. Do you have a cite for that?

You need to read my post a little more carefully... The PJ say her injuries, were caused when she threw herself down the stairs... So they admit they were there when the injuries happened... But he injuries were consistent with a beating
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: The Joana Cipriano case revisited.
« Reply #86 on: October 30, 2018, 01:10:44 PM »
Quote from: slartibartfast on October 30, 2018, 01:06:18 PM
But no evidence.

Her condition is proof she was injured... PJ claimed she fell down the stairs... Judge decided they were lying.



The court concluded that António Nunes Cardoso falsified a document, which reported the fall on the stairs of Leonor Cipriano. The sentence for Cardoso was aggravated, given his position as a police officer, "of whom is required to fight the crime."

From morais site

https://joana-morais.blogspot.com/2009/05/cirpriano-casepj-inspectors-accused-at.html?m=1
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Offline Sunny

Re: The Joana Cipriano case revisited.
« Reply #87 on: October 30, 2018, 01:11:31 PM »
Quote from: Davel on October 30, 2018, 01:07:18 PM
You need to read my post a little more carefully... The PJ say her injuries, were caused when she threw herself down the stairs... So they admit they were there when the injuries happened... But he injuries were consistent with a beating

Davel I have read you post carefully.  You were quite explicit IMO.

The court accepted she had been beaten... The PJ admitted they were there when the injuries happened
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: The Joana Cipriano case revisited.
« Reply #88 on: October 30, 2018, 01:15:18 PM »
Quote from: Sunny on October 30, 2018, 01:11:31 PM
Davel I have read you post carefully.  You were quite explicit IMO.

The court accepted she had been beaten... The PJ admitted they were there when the injuries happened

The PJ said the injuries were caused by a fall down the stairs...they claimed to have witnessed it... Therefore they admit to being present when the injuries happened
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Offline Sunny

Re: The Joana Cipriano case revisited.
« Reply #89 on: October 30, 2018, 01:17:57 PM »
Quote from: Davel on October 30, 2018, 01:15:18 PM
The PJ said the injuries were caused by a fall down the stairs...they claimed to have witnessed it... Therefore they admit to being present when the injuries happened

Where did they claim to have witnessed it?  That is what I want the cite for Davel.  I haven't seen anywhere, where it says this.
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