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Re: Sun's Nick Pisa refers to Gonçalo Amaral as a "Poisonous Liar".
« Reply #255 on: November 11, 2018, 12:13:01 PM »
I agree it would seem on the face of it that they were looking for a body, just as, on the face of it, it would seem that The Met are looking for a stranger in connection with Madeleine’s abduction.  If you can accept one, why not the other?


"Rowley 2017:We don't have evidence telling us if Madeleine is alive or dead. It is a missing person’s inquiry but as a team we are realistic about what we might be dealing with - especially as months turn to years".

How does that lend itself to looking for a stranger.
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« Reply #256 on: November 11, 2018, 12:13:50 PM »
Hardly.  Most of the people who lost their lives were very working class.


I wasn't referring to them.
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« Reply #257 on: November 11, 2018, 12:17:24 PM »

I wasn't referring to them.

You think I'm not working class?  If so, thanks for the compliment.

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Re: Sun's Nick Pisa refers to Gonçalo Amaral as a "Poisonous Liar".
« Reply #258 on: November 11, 2018, 12:23:06 PM »

"Rowley 2017:We don't have evidence telling us if Madeleine is alive or dead. It is a missing person’s inquiry but as a team we are realistic about what we might be dealing with - especially as months turn to years".

How does that lend itself to looking for a stranger.
Well it does obviously , but you have of course selectively quoted as well. 
« Last Edit: November 11, 2018, 12:34:20 PM by Vertigo Swirl »
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« Reply #259 on: November 11, 2018, 12:23:34 PM »
"believing oneself to be inherently deserving of privileges or special treatment".


Maybe it really is a class thing.
What are you on about?
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« Reply #260 on: November 11, 2018, 01:07:48 PM »
What are you on about?


Meaning of entitled,Eleanor grasped it.
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« Reply #261 on: November 11, 2018, 01:09:39 PM »
Well it does obviously , but you have of course selectively quoted as well.


Nope,its the only relevant bit,unless you want Do Carmo as well.

Brunt:Do you accept the girl, was abducted.

Pedro Do Carmo:We don't know what happened.
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« Reply #262 on: November 11, 2018, 01:11:01 PM »

Meaning of entitled,Eleanor grasped it.
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« Reply #263 on: November 11, 2018, 01:39:56 PM »
Let's keep posts credible please everyone. 
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

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« Reply #264 on: November 11, 2018, 01:55:32 PM »
Perjury isn't very nice.  Especially coming from a serving Police Officer.  And it is against The Law.

As South Yorkshire Police discovered, finally, in respect of Hillsborough. Over a hundred statements were altered to get them off the hook.
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« Reply #265 on: November 11, 2018, 01:59:48 PM »

Meaning of entitled,Eleanor grasped it.
So if I'm entitled to disability pay it's because it's a class thing.  What utter nonsense.
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Re: Sun's Nick Pisa refers to Gonçalo Amaral as a "Poisonous Liar".
« Reply #266 on: November 11, 2018, 02:01:13 PM »

Nope,its the only relevant bit,unless you want Do Carmo as well.

Brunt:Do you accept the girl, was abducted.

Pedro Do Carmo:We don't know what happened.
Did Andy Redwood ever say that they were treating the Madeleine McCann case as one of stranger abduction?  If so, why did he ever say that if there was zero evidence to support the theory?  Over to you.
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« Reply #267 on: November 11, 2018, 02:52:49 PM »
Did Andy Redwood ever say that they were treating the Madeleine McCann case as one of stranger abduction?  If so, why did he ever say that if there was zero evidence to support the theory?  Over to you.

But he didn’t actually say that if you read the whole quote in context.
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« Reply #268 on: November 11, 2018, 02:56:38 PM »
But he didn’t actually say that if you read the whole quote in context.
Here we go round the Mulberry bush, the Mulberry bush, the Mulberry bush. 
Yes he did.  You prefer to squeeze an alternative meaning out of his words, that's your affair.  Every single media outlet in the world who reported it heard what he said and the ALL reported the same thing - the Met believed Madeleine was abducted by a stranger.  Only "sceptics" heard different.  Typical!
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Re: Sun's Nick Pisa refers to Gonçalo Amaral as a "Poisonous Liar".
« Reply #269 on: November 11, 2018, 03:13:16 PM »
I am sorry Eleanor, but he has shown himself to be a liar.  He is a convicted perjurer FGS.

And look at the so called evidence in the Joana case.  There is none IMO, yet it comes from him that

1)  Leonor and Joao were having top level hanky panky when Joana saw them so they killed her
2)  Leonor threw herself down the stairs when IMO it was untrue
3)  Joanas blood was in the fridge, when it was never tested and could even have been pigs blood
4)  Joanas body was chopped up into small pieces,and fed to the pigs.  No evidence of that

No matter what you think of Amaral, his theories as to what befell Joana Cipriano are based on his direct personal knowledge of the case.  He didn't invent the 'fed her to the pigs story', that came from the mouth of the self-confessed killer himself.

What I cannot understand though is this continual attempt to paint the mother, Leonor Cipriano, as some sort of victim when this couldn't be further from the truth. At best Leonor was complicit in the coverup following the murder of her daughter and at worst she was there when it happened but did nothing to save her.  Either way, the woman is a disgrace.
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.