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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Sun's Nick Pisa refers to Gonçalo Amaral as a "Poisonous Liar".
« Reply #270 on: November 11, 2018, 03:19:31 PM »
No matter what you think of Amaral, his theories as to what befell Joana Cipriano are based on his direct personal knowledge of the case.  He didn't invent the 'fed her to the pigs story', that came from the mouth of the self-confessed killer himself.

What I cannot understand though is this continual attempt to paint the mother, Leonor Cipriano, as some sort of victim when this couldn't be further from the truth. At best Leonor was complicit in the coverup following the murder of her daughter and at worst she was there when it happened but did nothing to save her.  Either way, the woman is a disgrace.
I think she may well be a victim of a miscarriage of justice....weve gone through it all before...there isnt any real evidence Joanna is dead.... We know the PJ were prepared to lie...they claimed she fell down the stairs to cause her injuries which was not accepted by the court...so did they tell other lies to secure the conviction...who knows


His ideas on the McCann case are based on his personal experience of the cse.....and its clear he doesnt understand the evidence...imo
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Offline John

Re: Sun's Nick Pisa refers to Gonçalo Amaral as a "Poisonous Liar".
« Reply #271 on: November 11, 2018, 04:22:30 PM »
I think she may well be a victim of a miscarriage of justice....weve gone through it all before...there isnt any real evidence Joanna is dead.... We know the PJ were prepared to lie...they claimed she fell down the stairs to cause her injuries which was not accepted by the court...so did they tell other lies to secure the conviction...who knows


His ideas on the McCann case are nased on his personal experience of the cse.....and its clear he doesnt understand the evidence...imo

I think Gonçalo Amaral understood the evidence extremely well despite the attempts to undermine and derail the investigation. He was placed in an impossible situation given the unprecedented diplomatic intrusion and external police involvement. Ultimately his superiors capitulated to external pressures hanging him out to dry.  A rather sorry episode in policing all said and done.

A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Sun's Nick Pisa refers to Gonçalo Amaral as a "Poisonous Liar".
« Reply #272 on: November 11, 2018, 04:28:11 PM »
I think Gonçalo Amaral understood the evidence extremely well despite the attempts to undermine and derail the investigation. He was placed in an impossible situation given the unprecedented diplomatic intrusion and external police involvement. Ultimately his superiors capitulated to external pressures hanging him out to dry.  A rather sorry episode in policing all said and done.

amaral is on record as thinking the dog alerts confirmed a cadaver and the forensics confirmed maddies dna...he was wrong on both

Offline faithlilly

Re: Sun's Nick Pisa refers to Gonçalo Amaral as a "Poisonous Liar".
« Reply #273 on: November 11, 2018, 06:06:27 PM »
Here we go round the Mulberry bush, the Mulberry bush, the Mulberry bush. 
Yes he did.  You prefer to squeeze an alternative meaning out of his words, that's your affair.  Every single media outlet in the world who reported it heard what he said and the ALL reported the same thing - the Met believed Madeleine was abducted by a stranger.  Only "sceptics" heard different.  Typical!

No media outlet printed the comment. I have posted it here, several times, and it is nowhere as cut and dried as supporters would like to suggest.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Sun's Nick Pisa refers to Gonçalo Amaral as a "Poisonous Liar".
« Reply #274 on: November 11, 2018, 06:08:37 PM »
No media outlet printed the comment. I have posted it here, several times, and it is nowhere as cut and dried as supporters would like to suggest.
LOL.  No media outlet reported that the Met were treating Madeleine’s disappearance as abduction by a stranger?  Maybe not in the universe you inhabit.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline faithlilly

Re: Sun's Nick Pisa refers to Gonçalo Amaral as a "Poisonous Liar".
« Reply #275 on: November 11, 2018, 06:13:34 PM »
LOL.  No media outlet reported that the Met were treating Madeleine’s disappearance as abduction by a stranger?  Maybe not in the universe you inhabit.

Verbatim.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Sun's Nick Pisa refers to Gonçalo Amaral as a "Poisonous Liar".
« Reply #276 on: November 11, 2018, 06:13:46 PM »
This is just one of numerous media outlets that reported that Andy Redwood said he believed Madeleine was abducted by a stranger.   Why did all the journalists around the world who reported on his statement and wrote that the Met believed Madeleitwas abducted by a stranger not hear what the sceptics heard?  Simple question...

https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2012/apr/25/madeleine-mccann-case-reopen-call
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Sun's Nick Pisa refers to Gonçalo Amaral as a "Poisonous Liar".
« Reply #277 on: November 11, 2018, 06:15:14 PM »
Verbatim.
Hundreds of media outlets interpreted his words the same way I (and most normal people) interpreted them.  Only sceptics intuit special alternative meaning from them - why is that?
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Sunny

Re: Sun's Nick Pisa refers to Gonçalo Amaral as a "Poisonous Liar".
« Reply #278 on: November 11, 2018, 06:16:30 PM »
Hundreds of media outlets interpreted his words the same way I (and most normal people) interpreted them.  Only sceptics intuit special alternative meaning from them - why is that?

Is that the same as supporters and media seem to have mis- interpreted the Attourney General's final statements as the McCanns were cleared?
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Offline faithlilly

Re: Sun's Nick Pisa refers to Gonçalo Amaral as a "Poisonous Liar".
« Reply #279 on: November 11, 2018, 06:20:16 PM »
This is just one of numerous media outlets that reported that Andy Redwood said he believed Madeleine was abducted by a stranger.   Why did all the journalists around the world who reported on his statement and wrote that the Met believed Madeleitwas abducted by a stranger not hear what the sceptics heard?  Simple question...

https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2012/apr/25/madeleine-mccann-case-reopen-call

I have no idea. Redwood was certainly clever with his wording.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Sun's Nick Pisa refers to Gonçalo Amaral as a "Poisonous Liar".
« Reply #280 on: November 11, 2018, 06:29:42 PM »
I have no idea. Redwood was certainly clever with his wording.

Very clever... If you play it backwards he's saying... We know it was the mccanns

Offline Lace

Re: Sun's Nick Pisa refers to Gonçalo Amaral as a "Poisonous Liar".
« Reply #281 on: November 12, 2018, 09:42:50 AM »
Do they mention him by name?

Yes they do.   Haven't you seen many urging the public to read his book?   Read the TRUTH as they say?   He poisoned the public against the McCann's. IMO

Offline The General

Re: Sun's Nick Pisa refers to Gonçalo Amaral as a "Poisonous Liar".
« Reply #282 on: November 12, 2018, 10:06:16 AM »
Very clever... If you play it backwards he's saying... We know it was the mccanns
He could be right.
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Sun's Nick Pisa refers to Gonçalo Amaral as a "Poisonous Liar".
« Reply #283 on: November 12, 2018, 10:14:51 AM »
Yes they do.   Haven't you seen many urging the public to read his book?   Read the TRUTH as they say?   He poisoned the public against the McCann's. IMO

If the public do read his book they will find he doesn't accuse the McCanns of drugging their children. He discusses the possibility, but reaches no conclusions.



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Offline barrier

Re: Sun's Nick Pisa refers to Gonçalo Amaral as a "Poisonous Liar".
« Reply #284 on: November 12, 2018, 10:20:41 AM »
Here we go round the Mulberry bush, the Mulberry bush, the Mulberry bush. 
Yes he did.  You prefer to squeeze an alternative meaning out of his words, that's your affair.  Every single media outlet in the world who reported it heard what he said and the ALL reported the same thing - the Met believed Madeleine was abducted by a stranger.  Only "sceptics" heard different.  Typical!
Belief, not evidence,thats why its still ongoing.
Still if Redwoods word is his bond,remind us again about the two possibilities he says of the girls fate in leaving 5a.
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