what do you think the odds are of abduction in this case?

[Vertigo Swirl]

Well I did believe you thought Madeleine McCann was the first British child to be abducted abroad since Ben Needham because that's what you agreed to earlier in the thread. Have you changed your mind about that?

No, so...what am I not getting?

[barrier]

You Think?

Ok then,K Needham,the lads mother believes so  why you can't accept it between you and your conscience.


THE mum of missing toddler Ben Needham now believes that her son's body was hidden in an oil drum after he was killed.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/8812779/missing-ben-needhams-mum-fears-toddler-was-dumped-in-an-oil-drum-in-greece/

[Robittybob1]

Have you abandoned the practical joke theory?

No, of course not.  You obviously have not understood what my theory states.    One can plan to play a joke on someone but the whole thing goes awry from a certain point due to unforeseen complications.

The following are the sort of questions I've had to deal with?

Could they predict that burglars would attempt a break in to the apartment?
Was Matt really aware that "all was quiet", and what that quietness meant?  Where was Madeleine at his visit?
What would Madeleine do if another "stranger" (other than Matt) appeared in the apartment while she was awake?

Would she not escape via the front door if some man, other than her father, was entering the patio door?

[Vertigo Swirl]

You're not getting the fact that you may get different odds on what CAN happen but the odds on what DID happen are EXACT. We're talking about what DID happen to Madeleine not which horse is going to win the next race at Ascot. That's one set of odds that we know about exactly because it has happened. There's nothing you, me or anyone else can do about that fact.

But there's always the one, without proof of what DID happen your ONE means nothing in the odds. FACT!

We know she's ONE abducted child because it DID happen.
We know a cadaver dog MISTAKENLYchose her family's ONE property over all the others because it DID happen.
We know an abductor had to pick the ONE unlocked apartment over all the others because it DID happen.
We know an abductor chose the ONE child not confined to a cot over all the others because it DID happen.


You can say we don't know and that's true. But for your ONE to come in to the odds, ALL those things have to be true.


Ignore the odds at your peril, don't say you haven't been warned.

Great.  We’re in agreement then.  Despite the huge odds we know Madeleine was abducted.  Progress.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Who's a clever boy then? 

You have altered my post in your quote.  That is against forum rules and I shall be reporting it.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Sorry for inserting the word “DON’T” into your post when I quoted it.  It was very cheeky of me, please forgive me

OK.

[Vertigo Swirl]

No I haven't, you're clearly imagining things. 

Edited at 10.35pm by yourself after I reported it.  Sly and sneaky.

[The General]

OK.

Touche.

[The General]

Let's get back to the good stuff, these HUGE ODDS you talk about. Given the HUGE ODDS what would make the innocent parents of an abducted girl delete their call logs before the police got their phones.? Any suggestions.?

The key to this facet of the case is this; were they aware of the data preservation that phone providers maintain?
You may still try to delete 'incriminating' calls, but surely they would know there's an imprint held elsewhere.
I'd personally be banjaxed if I tried to explain my call log.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Cheeky, You’re beyond reason.   

[Robittybob1]

You have altered my post in your quote.  That is against forum rules and I shall be reporting it.

It must have been restored to the original again.

[Vertigo Swirl]

It must have been restored to the original again.

He removed the offending word that he had inserted in my post once I told him I was reporting it, then attempted to gaslight me. 

[Vertigo Swirl]

At first you were funny... But calling people liars when they are telling the truth isn't funny.. You have become more than a bit of a bore

I was only quoting CM who has repeatedly claimed on this thread “we know Madeleine was abducted “.  I think his plot may have woke and wandered tbh.

[Eleanor]

Does the truth break forum rules Eleanor?

Yes, if you can't prove it, and if it is insulting.  Which your comments often are.

[Eleanor]

I can prove it.  One set of possibilities/to the other set.  Where do you put these exciting and intelligent folks third set?  Unless you can answer it, there's your proof!

Sorry, I meant if it ISN'T insulting, which your comments often are.  I decide if your comment won't do.

However, I do have to say that you aren't quite as bad as you were.