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Offline Robittybob1

Re: what do you think the odds are of abduction in this case?
« Reply #675 on: June 26, 2019, 08:39:28 PM »
Yes, & she's not lying about that!  (Gulp)

https://youtu.be/WLvnfcl-Zkg?t=1370
Well you heard it for yourself, Kate said she was not lying about that!  I believe her so why don't you?
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Offline The General

Re: what do you think the odds are of abduction in this case?
« Reply #676 on: June 26, 2019, 11:44:39 PM »
Well you heard it for yourself, Kate said she was not lying about that!  I believe her so why don't you?
May I ask why you do?
Subject Matter Expert - Hobos.

Offline Robittybob1

Re: what do you think the odds are of abduction in this case?
« Reply #677 on: June 27, 2019, 01:02:08 AM »
May I ask why you do?
I have no reason to think she is lying.
Do you think she is lying and if so why?
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Offline Holly Goodhead

Re: what do you think the odds are of abduction in this case?
« Reply #678 on: June 27, 2019, 10:27:50 AM »
How many parents go out for 2/3 hours during the hours of dusk/darkness and leave their children in an unlocked holiday apartment where a) they don't have direct line of sight of the unlocked doors and b) others do have direct line of sight of the unlocked doors?

Other members of TP9 did not leave their children in an unlocked holiday apartment:

Payne's apartment was locked and fitted with a hi-tec baby monitor
ROB/JT apartment locked - checks carried out via front door
Oldfields apartment locked - checks carried out via front door
McCanns apartment unlocked - checks carried out via patio door

Even if one considers teenage parents who might have come from chaotic backgrounds and experienced poor parenting themselves I doubt they would be so stupid as to leave such small children in an unlocked holiday apartment unsupervised. Moreover others unknown to the McCanns would know their small children were home alone in an unlocked holiday apartment.  The McCanns were lucky not to find themselves locked up for child neglect.  Reading KM's book I find her disagreeable.  That said I do not believe they were directly responsible for MM's disappearance.

Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?

Offline The General

Re: what do you think the odds are of abduction in this case?
« Reply #679 on: June 27, 2019, 11:13:03 AM »
I have no reason to think she is lying.
Do you think she is lying and if so why?
I asked first.
Subject Matter Expert - Hobos.

Offline Robittybob1

Re: what do you think the odds are of abduction in this case?
« Reply #680 on: June 27, 2019, 11:59:20 AM »
I asked first.
I have answered you.  "I have no reason to think she is lying."  Therefore I believe her.
Now could you answer my question please?
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Offline The General

Re: what do you think the odds are of abduction in this case?
« Reply #681 on: June 27, 2019, 12:14:37 PM »
I have answered you.  "I have no reason to think she is lying."  Therefore I believe her.
Now could you answer my question please?
Do I think she's lying? Hmmm.....yes. Why? Because, in my opinion, and in full view and cognisance of the Common Law system of England and the Empire, I have reason to think she is lying.
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: what do you think the odds are of abduction in this case?
« Reply #682 on: June 27, 2019, 12:23:15 PM »
Do I think she's lying? Hmmm.....yes. Why? Because, in my opinion, and in full view and cognisance of the Common Law system of England and the Empire, I have reason to think she is lying.
Is she one of those that would float in the village pond?

"Ordeal by water was associated with the witch hunts of the 16th and 17th centuries: an accused who sank was considered innocent, while floating indicated witchcraft. Some argued that witches floated because they had renounced baptism when entering the Devil's service." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunking

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Offline Brietta

Re: what do you think the odds are of abduction in this case?
« Reply #683 on: June 27, 2019, 12:49:50 PM »
Is she one of those that would float in the village pond?

"Ordeal by water was associated with the witch hunts of the 16th and 17th centuries: an accused who sank was considered innocent, while floating indicated witchcraft. Some argued that witches floated because they had renounced baptism when entering the Devil's service." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunking



Somewhat of a win win situation or something like that.  If you float you are guilty and if you sink and are drowned you are innocent and you get to keep your good name.  Justice is served?
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Robittybob1

Re: what do you think the odds are of abduction in this case?
« Reply #684 on: June 27, 2019, 12:56:59 PM »
Somewhat of a win win situation or something like that.  If you float you are guilty and if you sink and are drowned you are innocent and you get to keep your good name.  Justice is served?
And "in full view and cognisance of the Common Law system of England and the Empire".  Bravo General.
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Offline Holly Goodhead

Re: what do you think the odds are of abduction in this case?
« Reply #685 on: June 29, 2019, 10:18:17 AM »
Do I think she's lying? Hmmm.....yes. Why? Because, in my opinion, and in full view and cognisance of the Common Law system of England and the Empire, I have reason to think she is lying.

The judicial system found Sally Clarke guilty of murdering her 2 sons:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sally_Clark
Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?

Offline Mr Gray

Re: what do you think the odds are of abduction in this case?
« Reply #686 on: June 29, 2019, 10:21:37 AM »
The judicial system found Sally Clarke guilty of murdering her 2 sons:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sally_Clark

Note the Royal Statistical Society criticised the misuse of statistics in court cases,      ....how very apt to this forum

And it also highlights the reliance on expert witness statements which obviously can be wrong and should be questioned ...who would have thought a professor of paediatrics could get things so wrong. Some posters here seem to want to treat so called experts as infallible... How wrong they are
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Offline Eleanor

Re: what do you think the odds are of abduction in this case?
« Reply #687 on: June 29, 2019, 10:27:22 AM »
The judicial system found Sally Clarke guilty of murdering her 2 sons:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sally_Clark

What are the odds on a Flawed Expert Witness?  There are two mentioned in this article.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: what do you think the odds are of abduction in this case?
« Reply #688 on: June 29, 2019, 10:31:41 AM »
What are the odds on a Flawed Expert Witness?  There are two mentioned in this article.

Yet Rob thinks they should be believed simply because they are regarded as experts

Offline Eleanor

Re: what do you think the odds are of abduction in this case?
« Reply #689 on: June 29, 2019, 10:42:48 AM »
Yet Rob thinks they should be believed simply because they are regarded as experts

And thy aren't the only ones who have been caught out.