A Room With A View...

[Miss Taken Identity]

OK OK what about the heartstrings bit.  Are you going to prove there are no strings in one's heart. Or worse!

No strings.. sorry!

If you ar referring to emotive language that ws not my intention, however that could and should be  a McCann trait.

dramatic version played out by T9- someone jemmied the window broke in and stole a little girl.

 actual version= unknown could have walked out to get parents, who were drinking  and enjoying a child free night, and met with an accident.

[Robittybob1]

You seem to want to challenge what I write about and the way I write about it. Seriously, it isn't your job.  It is beginning to feel like you want to bully/intimidate me.  Back off, because I don't do 'the victim thing' -don't read my posts if you are so offended or cannot understand what I am saying.

No need for a grown man to get upset over what is essentially, words typed on a forum.

Words?  Words are all I have.  You are getting upset by my words. 

[Miss Taken Identity]

Words?  Words are all I have.  You are getting upset by my words.

No. I was pointing out your snipes are wasted on me...

[Robittybob1]

No. I was pointing out your snipes are wasted on me...

I don't do snipes. 

[Robittybob1]

No strings.. sorry!

If you ar referring to emotive language that ws not my intention, however that could and should be  a McCann trait.

dramatic version played out by T9- someone jemmied the window broke in and stole a little girl.

 actual version= unknown could have walked out to get parents, who were drinking  and enjoying a child free night, and met with an accident.

I was referring to your emotive language without doubt. You nearly had me in tears too reading it.

[Holly Goodhead]

They weren't babies.  You seem to be wanting to pull heartstrings in the last few posts.

They were clearly way, way too young to be left unsupervised. 

How do you think the McCanns would have fared had they been some low income family staying in a caravan in Blackpool and going out every night to eat and drink in an on-site bar and carrying out 30 min checks via an unlocked door? 
 
Meeting with the Pope by private jet?

Professional spokesperson?

Appeals by David Beckham, Christiano Ronaldo and John Terry?

Phillip Green, Richard Branson, JK Rowling putting up reward money?

Suing everyone and anyone who dares to disagree or speak out of turn?

The only people the low income family would see are the police and social services!

[misty]

They were clearly way, way too young to be left unsupervised. 

How do you think the McCanns would have fared had they been some low income family staying in a caravan in Blackpool and going out every night to eat and drink in an on-site bar and carrying out 30 min checks via an unlocked door? 
 
Meeting with the Pope by private jet?

Professional spokesperson?

Appeals by David Beckham, Christiano Ronaldo and John Terry?

Phillip Green, Richard Branson, JK Rowling putting up reward money?

Suing everyone and anyone who dares to disagree or speak out of turn?

The only people the low income family would see are the police and social services!

It's worth bearing in mind that Mark Warner Group actively promoted the child-listening service in their brochures & no doubt many parents had already availed themselves of this facility in the past at other resorts. I'm not aware that the company were acting illegally or any parents were ever investigated by the police or Social Services for using it.

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[Holly Goodhead]

It's worth bearing in mind that Mark Warner Group actively promoted the child-listening service in their brochures & no doubt many parents had already availed themselves of this facility in the past at other resorts. I'm not aware that the company were acting illegally or any parents were ever investigated by the police or Social Services for using it.

A couple of weeks back I spent some time trying to find out what the MW services were at the time (2007) and how they were marketed ie suggested age groups but to no avail.

Anyway if we assume it was based on the info you've uploaded the crucial difference is surely that the room listening service did not require guests to leave children in an unlocked apartment?  Only the McCanns left the apartment unlocked.  The fact the patio doors could not be locked from the outside and they repeatedly exited from them during the night, Sun - Thu, allowed many others, unknown to the McCanns, to know the children were 'home alone' in the unlocked apartment.  Imo this is key to MM's disappearance.

Given the apartments could be exited via the patio doors/gates maybe there's an argument that the patio doors should have had the option of locking from outside? 

I've asked the question previously: had the apartment been locked would the outcome have been different?

[Brietta]

A couple of weeks back I spent some time trying to find out what the MW services were at the time (2007) and how they were marketed ie suggested age groups but to no avail.

Anyway if we assume it was based on the info you've uploaded the crucial difference is surely that the room listening service did not require guests to leave children in an unlocked apartment?  Only the McCanns left the apartment unlocked.  The fact the patio doors could not be locked from the inside and they repeatedly exited from them during the night, Sun - Thu, allowed many others, unknown to the McCanns, to know the children were 'home alone' in the unlocked apartment.  Imo this is key to MM's disappearance.

Given the apartments could be exited via the patio doors/gates maybe there's an argument that the patio doors should have had the option of locking from outside? 

I've asked the question previously: had the apartment been locked would the outcome have been different?

In my opinion the outcome would have been exactly the same and I do not think the presence of her parents would have made any difference.
I think the apartment was the catalyst.

[Holly Goodhead]

In my opinion the outcome would have been exactly the same and I do not think the presence of her parents would have made any difference.
I think the apartment was the catalyst.

Are you saying the outcome in your imo would be the same:

1.   Regardless of whether or not the apartment was locked?

2.   Regardless of whether or not the apartment was locked and whether or not the McCanns were inside?

3.   Regardless of whether or not the McCanns were inside?

In what way do you believe the apartment was the catalyst?

[Eleanor]

Are you saying the outcome in your imo would be the same:

1.   Regardless of whether or not the apartment was locked?

2.   Regardless of whether or not the apartment was locked and whether or not the McCanns were inside?

3.   Regardless of whether or not the McCanns were inside?

In what way do you believe the apartment was the catalyst?

The Appartment was right on the corner and relatively easily accessible, and the front area was in darkness.

If Madeleine was targeted, which I believe, then the abductors would have got to her somehow or another, even at night when her parents were there and sleeping.

[Holly Goodhead]

The Appartment was right on the corner and relatively easily accessible, and the front area was in darkness.

If Madeleine was targeted, which I believe, then the abductors would have got to her somehow or another, even at night when her parents were there and sleeping.

But if you consider apartment block 4 (to the left of 5 looking at them from poolside) the corner apartment was equally accessible and dark. 

Why would MM herself be targeted? 

[Brietta]

But if you consider apartment block 4 (to the left of 5 looking at them from poolside) the corner apartment was equally accessible and dark. 

Why would MM herself be targeted?

Perhaps it was not Madeleine in particular ... perhaps she met the profile the abductor wanted.

[Holly Goodhead]

Perhaps it was not Madeleine in particular ... perhaps she met the profile the abductor wanted.

Which was by definition MM who just happened to be 'home alone' in an unlocked apartment.  He/she certainly struck lucky!

[jassi]

Perhaps it was not Madeleine in particular ... perhaps she met the profile the abductor wanted.

But I thought she was the chosen one with the special bloodline