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Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: Exhibit A and the Trial of D'Andre Lane.
« Reply #30 on: June 29, 2019, 09:41:02 PM »
Agreed, anyone saying otherwise may have an agenda.

Ideed. I wonder what possible motivation Grime and his dog have for pretending to point to a possible death scene/scent?

On the other hand what motivation would a killer have for dismissing this circumstancial evidence tied up with the horrific evidence given by the 8 year old child- subjected to child abuse.

I never believed his story from day one, when I heard about from my colleague in the states.
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Offline Holly Goodhead

Re: Exhibit A and the Trial of D'Andre Lane.
« Reply #31 on: June 30, 2019, 08:50:20 AM »
I'm wondering why Martin Grime and his dogs, attached to S.Yorks police, are used all over the country/world?

I appreciate the dogs are expensive to train but a country like US is not without its own resources.
Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?

Offline barrier

Re: Exhibit A and the Trial of D'Andre Lane.
« Reply #32 on: June 30, 2019, 08:56:48 AM »
I'm wondering why Martin Grime and his dogs, attached to S.Yorks police, are used all over the country/world?

I appreciate the dogs are expensive to train but a country like US is not without its own resources.


Perhaps there is more to Grime than his public persona,gained mostly but not wholly I suspect because of the Madeleine case.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Exhibit A and the Trial of D'Andre Lane.
« Reply #33 on: June 30, 2019, 08:57:49 AM »
I'm wondering why Martin Grime and his dogs, attached to S.Yorks police, are used all over the country/world?

I appreciate the dogs are expensive to train but a country like US is not without its own resources.

I don't believe they are.. They have been used in the UK and the USA

A FOI request from a member of this forum showed only used 35 times in 5 years

My opinion on why Grime was used in this case is his claim if no false positives... I find that misleading but it certainly might be very convincing to a jury... Does any other handler make that claim
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Exhibit A and the Trial of D'Andre Lane.
« Reply #34 on: June 30, 2019, 09:02:41 AM »

Perhaps there is more to Grime than his public persona,gained mostly but not wholly I suspect because of the Madeleine case.

That's a very pertinent point.. We know Grime used the video from PDL to secure his lucrative contract in Jersey

Offline Holly Goodhead

Re: Exhibit A and the Trial of D'Andre Lane.
« Reply #35 on: June 30, 2019, 09:09:05 AM »
I don't believe they are.. They have been used in the UK and the USA

A FOI request from a member of this forum showed only used 35 times in 5 years

My opinion on why Grime was used in this case is his claim if no false positives... I find that misleading but it certainly might be very convincing to a jury... Does any other handler make that claim

They were obviously used in Portugal, the case above in US and someone cited a case in Scotland.

Why S.Yorks? 
« Last Edit: June 30, 2019, 10:58:36 AM by John »
Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Exhibit A and the Trial of D'Andre Lane.
« Reply #36 on: June 30, 2019, 09:10:27 AM »
I wonder if the defence in this case were aware if Grime statement Re the alerts having no evidential reliability... I'm fairly sure they were not... How could the alerts be admitted after this statement by grime

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Exhibit A and the Trial of D'Andre Lane.
« Reply #37 on: June 30, 2019, 09:12:47 AM »
They were obviously used in Portugal, the case above in US and someone cited a case in Scotland.

Why S.Yorks?

IMO... From what I have heard... Is that it is because Grime actively markets himself..... And his dogs that have never had a false positive... Which to me is misleading

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Exhibit A and the Trial of D'Andre Lane.
« Reply #38 on: June 30, 2019, 09:17:24 AM »
How could alerts that have no evidential value be admitted as evidence.... IMO the defence was not aware of that statement

Offline barrier

Re: Exhibit A and the Trial of D'Andre Lane.
« Reply #39 on: June 30, 2019, 09:19:33 AM »
How could alerts that have no evidential value be admitted as evidence.... IMO the defence was not aware of that statement

So words used in one particular case are a benchmark and a standard for all other's?
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Exhibit A and the Trial of D'Andre Lane.
« Reply #40 on: June 30, 2019, 09:23:42 AM »
So words used in one particular case are a benchmark and a standard for all other's?

Others have made the same statement... That statement dies not only apply to the McCann case

Offline faithlilly

Re: Exhibit A and the Trial of D'Andre Lane.
« Reply #41 on: June 30, 2019, 09:55:46 AM »
That's a very pertinent point.. We know Grime used the video from PDL to secure his lucrative contract in Jersey

I’ve never seen a cite for that. Do you have one ?
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Exhibit A and the Trial of D'Andre Lane.
« Reply #42 on: June 30, 2019, 09:58:12 AM »
I’ve never seen a cite for that. Do you have one ?

Yes I've seen it... It described how Lenny Harper was impressed by the video... No time to dig it out at the moment

Offline Eleanor

Re: Exhibit A and the Trial of D'Andre Lane.
« Reply #43 on: June 30, 2019, 09:59:27 AM »
I’ve never seen a cite for that. Do you have one ?

Cite Not Required.  We all know that the video was used to impress Lenny Harper.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Exhibit A and the Trial of D'Andre Lane.
« Reply #44 on: June 30, 2019, 10:10:51 AM »
Cite Not Required.  We all know that the video was used to impress Lenny Harper.

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Grime made a presentation, showing him [Harper] a video of the dog finding the "scent of death" in Kate and Gerry McCann's car,' the detective said.

'They were still formal suspects and the case had got worldwide publicity. It seemed to get Lenny very excited. I think Grime kind of bewitched him.'

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1217863/Bungled-Jersey-child-abuse-probe-branded-20million-shambles.html
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