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Offline G-Unit

Re: Exhibit A and the Trial of D'Andre Lane.
« Reply #450 on: July 10, 2019, 08:37:40 PM »
Jst because courts adnit evidence it does not mean its reliable


www.innocenceproject.org/overturning-wrongful-convictions-involving-flawed-forensics/



The Justice Department and FBI have formally acknowledged that nearly every examiner in an elite FBI forensic unit gave flawed testimony in almost all trials in which they offered evidence against criminal defendants over more than a two-decade period before 2000.

Of 28 examiners with the FBI Laboratory’s microscopic hair comparison unit, 26 overstated forensic matches in ways that favored prosecutors in more than 95 percent of the 268 trials reviewed so far, according to the National Association of Criminal Defense Lawyers (NACDL) and the Innocence Project, which are assisting the government with the country’s largest post-conviction review of questioned forensic evidence.

The cases include those of 32 defendants sentenced to death. Of those, 14 have been executed or died in prison, the groups said under an agreement with the government to release results after the review of the first 200 convictions
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what a damning report

I think it's very amusing how far some people will go in order to defend a couple from Leicester. Police officers, legal systems, judges must all be dicredited.
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Offline jassi

Re: Exhibit A and the Trial of D'Andre Lane.
« Reply #451 on: July 10, 2019, 08:42:57 PM »
Its a mystery to me why certain people spend time and effort digging all these obscure cases up to defend the McCanns when there isn't a snowball chance in hell of them being before a Judge.

Still, it obviously gives them a reason to get up in the morning
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Exhibit A and the Trial of D'Andre Lane.
« Reply #452 on: July 10, 2019, 08:46:15 PM »
I think it's very amusing how far some people will go in order to defend a couple from Leicester. Police officers, legal systems, judges must all be dicredited.

Then you have totally misunderstood the point of my post
I'm interested in the rule if law... That's what's very important
This thread is about Lane.. Not the McCann's... And it seems there may be another case featuring the alerts


Offline Mr Gray

Re: Exhibit A and the Trial of D'Andre Lane.
« Reply #453 on: July 10, 2019, 08:47:12 PM »
Its a mystery to me why certain people spend time and effort digging all these obscure cases up to defend the McCanns when there isn't a snowball chance in hell of them being before a Judge.

Still, it obviously gives them a reason to get up in the morning

Another one who has misunderstood... This thread is about lane and the US


Yet another pathetic personal attack

Offline jassi

Re: Exhibit A and the Trial of D'Andre Lane.
« Reply #454 on: July 10, 2019, 08:52:06 PM »
Another one who has misunderstood... This thread is about lane and the US


Yet another pathetic personal attack

In which case it is totally irrelevant to this forum.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Exhibit A and the Trial of D'Andre Lane.
« Reply #455 on: July 10, 2019, 09:03:46 PM »
remember you are stating opinion...and its obviously  wrong imo
Harrisson says...

However, it must be stated any such indications without any physical evidence to support them can not have any evidential value, being unconfirmed indications. Additionally I consider no inference can be drawn as to whether a human cadaver has previously been in any location without other supporting physical evidence.


www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MARK_HARRISON.htm

harrison is very clear...no infernce and no evidential value..

are you suggsting harrison is wrong..

how can evidence be admitted taht is described by experts as having no evidential relaibility or value

in the netflix...Grime again refers to the alerts as intelligence...not evidence
Is a bit of paper with writing on it physical? 
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Exhibit A and the Trial of D'Andre Lane.
« Reply #456 on: July 10, 2019, 09:08:27 PM »
Is a bit of paper with writing on it physical?

No it's not classed as physical evidence

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Exhibit A and the Trial of D'Andre Lane.
« Reply #457 on: July 10, 2019, 09:12:26 PM »
No it's not classed as physical evidence
Do you agree with Grime's science?  Look Grime and Harrison are not a scientists, nor lawyers, so you would be unwise to take what they say as anymore than their poor understanding of the situation.
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Offline The General

Re: Exhibit A and the Trial of D'Andre Lane.
« Reply #458 on: July 10, 2019, 09:13:35 PM »
No it's not classed as physical evidence
It's not what now?
Someone give Poirot a nudge.
So if there's a piece of paper at a crime scene and it says 'I'm gonna murder you, you t!t', in the accused handwriting, time stamped, with his saliva on it....not physical? Jungian Metaphysicality?
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Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: Exhibit A and the Trial of D'Andre Lane.
« Reply #459 on: July 10, 2019, 09:18:31 PM »
It's not what now?
Someone give Poirot a nudge.
So if there's a piece of paper at a crime scene and it says 'I'm gonna murder you, you t!t', in the accused handwriting, time stamped, with his saliva on it....not physical? Jungian Metaphysicality?

 8**8:/: I fear some would want video evidence  of that note being written- to screen -just to make sure mind...

but then even a signed confession along with the note would not be  trusted as it may have been forced from him. ^*&&
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Exhibit A and the Trial of D'Andre Lane.
« Reply #460 on: July 10, 2019, 09:21:21 PM »
Do you agree with Grime's science?  Look Grime and Harrison are not a scientists, nor lawyers, so you would be unwise to take what they say as anymore than their poor understanding of the situation.

You say Harrison is not a scientist... That's quite a silly thing to say.. He's a visiting professor of Ocean Sciences..

And you think they both have a poor understanding of the situation.. Stated as fact. ...not opinion

I think based on that post I'd be very unwise to take seriously  anything you say






Offline The General

Re: Exhibit A and the Trial of D'Andre Lane.
« Reply #461 on: July 10, 2019, 09:21:31 PM »
8**8:/: I fear some would want video evidence  of that note being written- to screen -just to make sure mind...

but then even a signed confession along with the note would not be  trusted as it may have been forced from him. ^*&&
Torture, no less.
Well they do say that waterboarding in Guantanamo Bay sounds awfully good fun if you don't know what either of those two things are.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Exhibit A and the Trial of D'Andre Lane.
« Reply #462 on: July 10, 2019, 09:24:25 PM »
Do you agree with Grime's science?  Look Grime and Harrison are not a scientists, nor lawyers, so you would be unwise to take what they say as anymore than their poor understanding of the situation.

Mark Harrison... What dies he know..
I am the National Adviser in relation to Search for all Police agencies within the United Kingdom for Missing persons, Abduction and Homicide. My role involves advising on searching for persons that are missing, abducted or murdered, using enhanced search techniques and technologies. I attend and review cases providing advice and support on search plans, strategies and resources. I have extensive national and international experience in such casework. I am a visiting Professor of Earth and Ocean Sciences at the University of Southampton.

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Exhibit A and the Trial of D'Andre Lane.
« Reply #463 on: July 10, 2019, 09:26:36 PM »
It's not what now?
Someone give Poirot a nudge.
So if there's a piece of paper at a crime scene and it says 'I'm gonna murder you, you t!t', in the accused handwriting, time stamped, with his saliva on it....not physical? Jungian Metaphysicality?
I was being a bit naughty trying to tease Davel into agreeing that statements written on paper are examples of physical evidence.

I agree, and a suicide note from Madeleine would have been considered physical evidence too.  Or even a note saying she is leaving, for a better life. 

"Dear Mum and Dad,
I've had enough of this neglect. 
I'm leaving now.

Love you Daddy.
Maddie.

You say Harrison is not a scientist... That's quite a silly thing to say.. He's a visiting professor of Ocean Sciences..

And you think they both have a poor understanding of the situation.. Stated as fact. ...not opinion

I think based on that post I'd be very unwise to take seriously  anything you say


You could be right.  OK I stand corrected if you can show me was a professor of Ocean Science.
" I am a visiting Professor of Earth and Ocean Sciences at the University of Southampton."  Is that like an honorary achievement?
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Exhibit A and the Trial of D'Andre Lane.
« Reply #464 on: July 10, 2019, 09:33:09 PM »
I was being a bit naughty trying to tease Davel into agreeing that statements written on paper are examples of physical evidence.

I agree, and a suicide note from Madeleine would have been considered physical evidence too.  Or even a note saying she is leaving, for a better life. 

"Dear Mum and Dad,
I've had enough of this neglect. 
I'm leaving now.

Love you Daddy.
Maddie.

You could be right.  OK I stand corrected if you can show me was a professor of Ocean Science.
" I am a visiting Professor of Earth and Ocean Sciences at the University of Southampton."  Is that like an honorary achievement?

A visiting professor  is not an honorary title