The 'Find Madeleine Campaign' Helpful or Harmful?

[jassi]

I've edited a post and deleted others on the basis they were personal/goading. 

Please try and accept we all see the case differently but there's no need for goading etc.  Thanks.

Agreeing/ supporting with a post is NOT goading  Please reinstate

[Holly Goodhead]

Agreeing with a post is NOT goading  Please reinstate

I decide what is and what is not goading. 

[jassi]

I decide what is and what is not goading.

Perhaps your concept of goading is wrong

[Vertigo Swirl]

It does show how successful the propaganda campaign has been in some quarters.

The Charity Commission said that they would work with the parents to help them achieve charity status. Even if the extra 25% gained through being able to gift aid donations went to a wider cause there would still have been enough to run their campaign to find there daughter....in fact with so many police forces involved why did the parents even need to fund a search ? There would have been greater scrutiny of how the money was spent though and that’s something the parents wouldn’t countenance.

And no they didn’t need to meet the pope. How confusing must it have been for the twins to not only have their sister disappear on them but also their mum and dad ? Yet again the parents put their own needs before their children’s sense of security. And what has the internet got to do with it ? Would it have made SY throw money at Benn’s case in the same way as Madeleine’s ? Benn’s mum ploughed all she had into keeping her son’s name out there. I wonder how much of their own money the McCanns have used for their daughter.

As to keeping Madeleine’s case out there, when was the last time we heard a word from them ? When was the last time they updated their webpage? Their free Facebook page is now simply a collection of mawkish Hallmark quotes and not much else ( whatever did happen to the webmaster updating the OFM webpage with people’s efforts to help in the search ? )....one thing we agree on though, it was never about Madeleine...it was always about them.

Try and come to terms that quite alot of people actually don’t have the long list of grievances against them that you do, and that whilst you are perfectly entitled to air your views day in, day out, week in, week put, month in month out, it really serves little purpose whatsoever and reflects far more on you than it does on them.

[Holly Goodhead]

Perhaps your concept of goading is wrong

Maybe but as a moderator I make the judgement call. 

[G-Unit]

The McCann's said they couldn't run Madeleine's fund as a charity,  it wasn't just the McCann's involved they had lawyers too,  so it doesn't look as though it was possible does it.  If you have a problem with how the money was spent then contact the fund.

So you don't think the McCann's should have had a campaign to find their daughter and keep her in the public eye?   So parents of the missing shouldn't put posters up with the face of their child on them, because the Police are searching for their child.   How can the Police apart from contacting the Police in other countries,  get the child's face known to the public of other countries?

The Portuguese shelved the case anyway so there wasn't a Police force searching for Madeleine they had to employ private detectives.

The twins were being entertained by family members,  remember they went to the creche by themselves,  neither Madeleine or their parents were there then.  Would it have been better for the twins to have stayed around their parents crying hysterically all the time?   The Pope was close to God in the McCann's eyes they wanted him to bless Madeleine.   Also it advertised the fact that Madeleine was missing to those in Rome and anyone else who saw it on the tv.


There you go,  Ben Needham's Mum wanted Bens name out there,  that is what the McCann's wanted too, yet you put Ben's Mum on a pedestal,  that is so cruel.   Ben's mum said in her book [have you read it?]  she would have done EXACTLY the same as the McCann's if she had been in their position.

Now you are asking why they are NOT keeping Madeleine's name out there,  how strange.   I can only presume they have been told to keep quiet at the moment.   Yes it is about them,  something they never wanted.

You seem to have forgotten Control Risks Group who arrived on the scene in May 2007. Metodo 3 and Oakley were also hired before the archiving of the case. In my opinion there is no connection between hiring PI's abd the archiving of the case.

[Erngath]

It does show how successful the propaganda campaign has been in some quarters.

The Charity Commission said that they would work with the parents to help them achieve charity status. Even if the extra 25% gained through being able to gift aid donations went to a wider cause there would still have been enough to run their campaign to find there daughter....in fact with so many police forces involved why did the parents even need to fund a search ? There would have been greater scrutiny of how the money was spent though and that’s something the parents wouldn’t countenance.

And no they didn’t need to meet the pope. How confusing must it have been for the twins to not only have their sister disappear on them but also their mum and dad ? Yet again the parents put their own needs before their children’s sense of security. And what has the internet got to do with it ? Would it have made SY throw money at Benn’s case in the same way as Madeleine’s ? Benn’s mum ploughed all she had into keeping her son’s name out there. I wonder how much of their own money the McCanns have used for their daughter.

As to keeping Madeleine’s case out there, when was the last time we heard a word from them ? When was the last time they updated their webpage? Their free Facebook page is now simply a collection of mawkish Hallmark quotes and not much else ( whatever did happen to the webmaster updating the OFM webpage with people’s efforts to help in the search ? )....one thing we agree on though, it was never about Madeleine...it was always about them.

Why do you feel the "propaganda campaign" has been successful " in some quarters" but not in others?

Who were the "many police forces involved" when the fund began?

Was there a time when no police force  was actively involved in the investigation of Madeleine's disappearance?

[jassi]

Why do you feel the "propaganda campaign" has been successful " in some quarters" but not in others?

Who were the "many police forces involved" when the fund began?

Was there a time when no police force  was actively involved in the investigation of Madeleine's disappearance?

Off the top of my head, I think there were
Leicester
Metropolitan
CEOP
Portuguese

[Erngath]

The McCann's said they couldn't run Madeleine's fund as a charity,  it wasn't just the McCann's involved they had lawyers too,  so it doesn't look as though it was possible does it.  If you have a problem with how the money was spent then contact the fund.

So you don't think the McCann's should have had a campaign to find their daughter and keep her in the public eye?   So parents of the missing shouldn't put posters up with the face of their child on them, because the Police are searching for their child.   How can the Police apart from contacting the Police in other countries,  get the child's face known to the public of other countries?


The Portuguese shelved the case anyway so there wasn't a Police force searching for Madeleine they had to employ private detectives.


The twins were being entertained by family members,  remember they went to the creche by themselves,  neither Madeleine or their parents were there then.  Would it have been better for the twins to have stayed around their parents crying hysterically all the time?   The Pope was close to God in the McCann's eyes they wanted him to bless Madeleine.   Also it advertised the fact that Madeleine was missing to those in Rome and anyone else who saw it on the tv.


There you go,  Ben Needham's Mum wanted Bens name out there,  that is what the McCann's wanted too, yet you put Ben's Mum on a pedestal,  that is so cruel.   Ben's mum said in her book [have you read it?]  she would have done EXACTLY the same as the McCann's if she had been in their position.

Now you are asking why they are NOT keeping Madeleine's name out there,  how strange.   I can only presume they have been told to keep quiet at the moment.   Yes it is about them,  something they never wanted.

Its always easy for those who have never been in such a horrendous situation to critiize the actions of those who have had to exercise  decisions and judgements in said situation.

[Erngath]

Off the top of my head, I think there were
Leicester
Metropolitan
CEOP
Portuguese

Which of those were still investigating Madeleine's disappearance when her parents paid for the Private Investigators?

[jassi]

Its always easy for those who have never been in such a horrendous situation to critiize the actions of those who have had to exercise  decisions and judgements in said situation.

Are you suggesting we shouldn't?

[jassi]

Which of those were still investigating Madeleine's disappearance when her parents paid for the Private Investigators?

Can't tell you .Ask someone else.

[Erngath]

Are you suggesting we shouldn't?

If you feel you can place yourself in the situation of having a missing child and can say exactly what you would do and know that your choices, decisions and judgements would be much wiser and more productive than the choices, decisions and judgements of Madeleine's parents, then of course you should.

[jassi]

If you feel you can place yourself in the situation of having a missing child and can say exactly what you would do and know that your choices, decisions and judgements would be much wiser and more productive than the choices, decisions and judgements of Madeleine's parents, then of course you should.

That's not how it works. People criticize because they can. They don't need to justify that criticisim

[Erngath]

That's not how it works. People criticize because they can. They don't need to justify that criticisim

Some people.