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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: The 'Find Madeleine Campaign' Helpful or Harmful?
« Reply #135 on: July 12, 2019, 09:10:20 PM »
Yes, she ran back to the table, leaving her remaining children in a room open to the elements, before announcing that 'they' had taken her, it was after that that she didn't bother to call the police.

Am I obliged to respond to your BS?
What BS?  I asked you a question that clearly you find so difficult to answer you had to deflect.  Never mind, I really wasn’t expecting a straight answer from you.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Robittybob1

Re: The 'Find Madeleine Campaign' Helpful or Harmful?
« Reply #136 on: July 12, 2019, 09:12:17 PM »
Seems to be quite the chain of poor decisions, pre and post.
One of our members sounds like they rang the police but were told to search for half an hour before ringing back.  OK the full story wasn't told to us.

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=10881.msg545335#msg545335  What was the outcome Engarth?
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: The 'Find Madeleine Campaign' Helpful or Harmful?
« Reply #137 on: July 12, 2019, 09:12:42 PM »
Why not?  Only hysterical Kate is thinking in terms of abduction.  Why can't you imagine the others to wait a while?
Some people are just determined to be cussed and unreasonable.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline The General

Re: The 'Find Madeleine Campaign' Helpful or Harmful?
« Reply #138 on: July 12, 2019, 09:18:00 PM »
Why not?  Only hysterical Kate is thinking in terms of abduction.  Why can't you imagine the others to wait a while?
I don't care how inebriated and / or distraught, you run around screaming like a lunatic, looking everywhere, but come on, you ring the police. Particularly if you don't think she's just wandered off, but has been abducted! That's a crime, isn't it, abduction of a minor, a crime?
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Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: The 'Find Madeleine Campaign' Helpful or Harmful?
« Reply #139 on: July 12, 2019, 09:18:44 PM »
What BS?  I asked you a question that clearly you find so difficult to answer you had to deflect.  Never mind, I really wasn’t expecting a straight answer from you.

Kate knew immediately that Maddie was abducted. The open window was proof. If I found myself in that same situation I would call the police immediately, not run around the car park wishing I'd dressed the child in different pyjamas.
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Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: The 'Find Madeleine Campaign' Helpful or Harmful?
« Reply #140 on: July 12, 2019, 09:20:53 PM »
I don't care how inebriated and / or distraught, you run around screaming like a lunatic, looking everywhere, but come on, you ring the police. Particularly if you don't think she's just wandered off, but has been abducted! That's a crime, isn't it, abduction of a minor, a crime?

These educated doctors suffered an attack of stupidity post abduction. How extraordinary.
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Offline The General

Re: The 'Find Madeleine Campaign' Helpful or Harmful?
« Reply #141 on: July 12, 2019, 09:27:15 PM »
These educated doctors suffered an attack of stupidity post abduction. How extraordinary.
'Uhh, what should we do guys? I mean, how long does it take for Sangria to go warm?'.
'What is patatas bravas anyway Russ? Is it fish?'
'I like quizzes'.
'Who's pulled an adductor? I've got Voltarol in my bag'.
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: The 'Find Madeleine Campaign' Helpful or Harmful?
« Reply #142 on: July 12, 2019, 09:29:02 PM »
These educated doctors suffered an attack of stupidity post abduction. How extraordinary.
No according to Engarth they did it as per the book.  If a child goes missing you look for it in the vicinity for about 30 minutes before calling the police.  That is to give the abductors plenty of time to get away.
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Offline Erngath

Re: The 'Find Madeleine Campaign' Helpful or Harmful?
« Reply #143 on: July 12, 2019, 09:51:28 PM »
No according to Engarth they did it as per the book.  If a child goes missing you look for it in the vicinity for about 30 minutes before calling the police.  That is to give the abductors plenty of time to get away.

There is no book!
Why be so flippant?

I ran about like a headless chicken, running one way and then the other for five minutes.
I phoned the police and a very nice policeman calmed me down and advised me to get.some.neighbours and do a quick search but to phone back in twenty minutes.
I even phoned my.father who lived twelve mikes away.
I don't know what I expected him to do at that moment.
Unless you've experienced the panic, you have no idea of what your reactions.would be.
Mine were possibly all wrong.
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Deal with the failings of others as gently as with your own.

Offline Robittybob1

Re: The 'Find Madeleine Campaign' Helpful or Harmful?
« Reply #144 on: July 12, 2019, 10:14:24 PM »
There is no book!
Why be so flippant?

I ran about like a headless chicken, running one way and then the other for five minutes.
I phoned the police and a very nice policeman calmed me down and advised me to get.some.neighbours and do a quick search but to phone back in twenty minutes.
I even phoned my.father who lived twelve mikes away.
I don't know what I expected him to do at that moment.
Unless you've experienced the panic, you have no idea of what your reactions.would be.
Mine were possibly all wrong.
Well there is at least a web page  on what to do if your child goes missing. 
What I was wanting to clear up, was who was right?  Did your child get found or did you need to call the police back after 20 minutes?

This website has ring the police first, then look.  https://www.safewise.com/blog/what-to-do-when-your-child-goes-missing/  so I might be wrong about looking first then ring.
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Offline Erngath

Re: The 'Find Madeleine Campaign' Helpful or Harmful?
« Reply #145 on: July 12, 2019, 10:34:05 PM »
Well there is at least a web page  on what to do if your child goes missing. 
What I was wanting to clear up, was who was right?  Did your child get found or did you need to call the police back after 20 minutes?

This website has ring the police first, then look.  https://www.safewise.com/blog/what-to-do-when-your-child-goes-missing/  so I might be wrong about looking first then ring.

Thank you for fixing my post.
The children turned up five minutes later very close to our back garden from which they had escaped despite a locked gate.
I phoned the police to tell them and thank them.
 
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: The 'Find Madeleine Campaign' Helpful or Harmful?
« Reply #146 on: July 12, 2019, 10:35:55 PM »
Kate knew immediately that Maddie was abducted. The open window was proof. If I found myself in that same situation I would call the police immediately, not run around the car park wishing I'd dressed the child in different pyjamas.
Kate may very well have believed immediately that Madeleine had been abducted but would no doubt have hoped against hope that she was mistaken and that Madeleine was just wandering about waiting to be found.   What relevance do you see in this apparent failure of hers not to phone the police  within seconds?  The Payne family didn’t call the police for well over an hour, do you take the piss out of them too?
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: The 'Find Madeleine Campaign' Helpful or Harmful?
« Reply #147 on: July 12, 2019, 10:45:09 PM »
Kate may very well have believed immediately that Madeleine had been abducted but would no doubt have hoped against hope that she was mistaken and that Madeleine was just wandering about waiting to be found.   What relevance do you see in this apparent failure of hers not to phone the police  within seconds?  The Payne family didn’t call the police for well over an hour, do you take the piss out of them too?

There was no mistaking, by Kate & Gerry's own admission.
I'm not taking the piss, I'm just sticking to the facts.
I've no interest in the actions of the Payne family because I'm certain they didn't do it.

PS....not only did the McCanns not phone the police in seconds....they didn't actually phone them at all.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: The 'Find Madeleine Campaign' Helpful or Harmful?
« Reply #148 on: July 12, 2019, 10:48:43 PM »
There was no mistaking, by Kate & Gerry's own admission.
I'm not taking the piss, I'm just sticking to the facts.
I've no interest in the actions of the Payne family because I'm certain they didn't do it.

PS....not only did the McCanns not phone the police in seconds....they didn't actually phone them at all.
So what?
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline faithlilly

Re: The 'Find Madeleine Campaign' Helpful or Harmful?
« Reply #149 on: July 12, 2019, 10:50:24 PM »
Which of those were still investigating Madeleine's disappearance when her parents paid for the Private Investigators?

The fund was set up long before the parents knew they would need to fund a search of their own. Why then couldn’t  they have used the money for good causes. They were a relatively wealthy family who had multiple police forces helping them. TBH I have never heard of the parents of a missing child using the money donated in such a way.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?