Irish teen Nóra Quoirin (15) disappears while on holiday in Malaysia.

[G-Unit]

It's perfectly reasonable to expect your property and family to be safe and secure in a holiday resort of any description when paying that sort of money.  Night watchmen should have been a given, they are quite common in Malaysia.  Secure gates into the resort and high perimeter fencing is also not out of the question.  IMO.

I think the outcome of the case will be decided by what it's reasonable to expect in Malaysia. Their country, their rules.

[Mr Gray]

It's perfectly clear before booking what the resort is like. In my opinion it would be completely unrealistic for anyone expecting guards and CCTV to book a stay there.

Depends on the history of crime there as to what's needed

[Wonderfulspam]

In your opinion... I think its perfectly valid when they feel the police haven't given the answers they want. It's a perfectly valid way of forcing the issue imo

The answer they want is that Nóra was abducted, if there isn't any evidence that happened then I fail to see how the Malaysian police can give them that answer, they're not Scotland Yard.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Where do you holiday?   

I lived in Malaysia for many years but I suppose my opinion counts for nothing as far as you and your pathetic collection of emoticons are concerned.

[Vertigo Swirl]

I think the outcome of the case will be decided by what it's reasonable to expect in Malaysia. Their country, their rules.

https://asklegal.my/p/bad-holiday-from-hell-malaysia-can-i-sue

[Mr Gray]

The answer they want is that Nóra was abducted, if there isn't any evidence that happened then I fail to see how the Malaysian police can give them that answer, they're not Scotland Yard.

What was the level of crime in the area.... That's a good first question

[Vertigo Swirl]

"There are a whopping 150,000 security guards in Malaysia, even more than the police force with its 112,583 officers, according to Shaheen".
https://www.malaymail.com/news/malaysia/2013/11/11/in-arming-illegal-guards-for-cheaper-security-an-insidious-price/559861
As I said, night watchmen are quite common in Malaysia and it's not unreasonable to expect one to have been on duty in such a tourist focused resort.

[Vertigo Swirl]

What was the level of crime in the area.... That's a good first question

It's the jungle, so very low, however there are local Orang Asli in the area who are poor folk, some of whom worked at or likely know people who work at the resort.  Wherever there are tourists there will be the potential for crimes to be committed. 

[G-Unit]

The answer they want is that Nóra was abducted, if there isn't any evidence that happened then I fail to see how the Malaysian police can give them that answer, they're not Scotland Yard.

Suing the owners of the resort won't provide the answer either imo.

[Wonderfulspam]

As far as I can see the Dusun resort never claimed to have security guards on duty, so I think it would be unreasonable to expect there to be.

If they wanted to stay at a resort that had security guards then perhaps they should have booked with one that listed them in their brochure.

[Wonderfulspam]

What was the level of crime in the area.... That's a good first question

There could have been a cartel of crack dealers living nearby, that still wouldn't prove Nora was abducted.

[Mr Gray]

Suing the owners of the resort won't provide the answer either imo.

It may well do... We won't know until it happens

[Eleanor]

As far as I can see the Dusun resort never claimed to have security guards on duty, so I think it would be unreasonable to expect there to be.

If they wanted to stay at a resort that had security guards then perhaps they should have booked with one that listed them in their brochure.

What a silly remark.

[Vertigo Swirl]

As far as I can see the Dusun resort never claimed to have security guards on duty, so I think it would be unreasonable to expect there to be.

If they wanted to stay at a resort that had security guards then perhaps they should have booked with one that listed them in their brochure.

How many holiday brochures detail the security arrangements?  A good way to put people off to say the premises is patrolled by guards and CCTV!

[Eleanor]

Suing the owners of the resort won't provide the answer either imo.

The Security will have to be looked at if they do sue, among other things.