Fingerprints

[Holly Goodhead]

Please provide a cite supporting your belief that gender can be identified by reference to the size of a fingerprint.

We covered all of this the other day and I provided a cite to an article produced by a forensic scientist.

[Robittybob1]

How is it determined a finger print is from a woman of youth if the finger print owner is not known,why would a youth's finger print be similar to a womans,a youth generally refers to a male.

It would be the shape and size of the print.

[Holly Goodhead]

No.no. They expressed an opinion that it MIGHT have belonged.

You are the one treating as gospel.

Why would Germany narrow it down and say it could have originated from a woman or youth but not a child if it was possible it originated from an adult male?

If you believe it originated from Nelson da Costa then perhaps you can explain why he makes no reference to handling the patio doors in his wit stat? 

[jassi]

We covered all of this the other day and I provided a cite to an article produced by a forensic scientist.

I  never realised that amino acids could be detected from a photograph, or are you suggesting that the actual, original print was sent to Germany ?

As these prints were circulated far & wide, I would suggest that the images were sent by email.

[Holly Goodhead]

I  never realised that amino acids could be detected from a photograph, or are you suggesting that the actual, original print was sent to Germany ?

As these prints were circulated far & wide, I would suggest that the images were sent by email.

I'm not aware Germany used amino acids to determine gender?

[jassi]

I'm not aware Germany used amino acids to determine gender?

So how would you suggest they did it from a photographic image ?

[The General]

Afaik females are not bigger than males at any stage of the growing cycle? 

Germany made clear the fingerprint did not originate from a child but a youth or a woman.  GNR officer Nelson da Costa was not a youth or a woman.

Nelson da Costa might be a tiny, wee man

[Vertigo Swirl]

Nelson da Costa might bee a tiny, wee man

Let’s track him down on social media and compare his photos to those of other adult males (that’s if Holly hasn’t already done so).

[Holly Goodhead]

Nelson da Costa might bee a tiny, wee man

As I said he was a GNR officer (military soldier) so I would have thought he had to meet some sort of minimum/maximum criteria in terms of height/weight ratio. In any event his wit stat makes no mention of handling the patio door.

My abduction theory/suspect involves a female who just happens to be petite too so I can envisage a situation where the fingerprint originated from her. 

[G-Unit]

We covered all of this the other day and I provided a cite to an article produced by a forensic scientist.

Please could you re-post? I've tried to find it but I can't.

[The General]

As I said he was a GNR officer (military soldier) so I would have thought he had to meet some sort of minimum/maximum criteria in terms of height/weight ratio. In any event his wit stat makes no mention of handling the patio door.

My abduction theory/suspect involves a female who just happens to be petite too so I can envisage a situation where the fingerprint originated from her.

Did your female abductor only touch one surface once?

[Holly Goodhead]

Did your female abductor only touch one surface once?

I've no idea it wasn't me and I wasn't there.

But as we discussed in detail yesterday a lack of adequate fingerprints available for analysis is not indicative of no handling or limited handling of items/doors/windows/shutters. 

[Holly Goodhead]

I've no idea it wasn't me and I wasn't there.

But as we discussed in detail yesterday a lack of adequate fingerprints available for analysis is not indicative of no handling or limited handling of items/doors/windows/shutters.

Remember also potentially this is someone who was on a mission to abduct a child by entering a property she had no right to be in.  She may have used her clothes to open the gate/patio door and then with the stress of it all made a mistake.  Its how criminals get caught. 

[G-Unit]

As I said he was a GNR officer (military soldier) so I would have thought he had to meet some sort of minimum/maximum criteria in terms of height/weight ratio. In any event his wit stat makes no mention of handling the patio door.

My abduction theory/suspect involves a female who just happens to be petite too so I can envisage a situation where the fingerprint originated from her.

Do you know if GNR members have height requirements or is that just one of your guesses? The minimum for the British Army is 148cms (4ft 10inches); 158cms for drivers. The average height of British men is 178 cms (5ft 10inches), Portuguese men 172.8cms. Remember it's not the size of the dog in the fight that matters, it's the size of the fight in the dog (as Mark Twain observed).

[Holly Goodhead]

Do you know if GNR members have height requirements or is that just one of your guesses? The minimum for the British Army is 148cms (4ft 10inches); 158cms for drivers. The average height of British men is 178 cms (5ft 10inches), Portuguese men 172.8cms. Remember it's not the size of the dog in the fight that matters, it's the size of the fight in the dog (as Mark Twain observed).

Is there any correlation between height/weight and hand size?