HiDeHo and debunker debate the dog evidence

[debunker]

@HiDeHo

What odor does Eddie the Cadaver dog alert to?
What odor does Keela the Blood dog alert to?

What does a single alert by either mean?

Why are the deployed together?

[debunker]

'Eddie' The Enhanced Victim Recovery Dog (E.V.RD.) will search for and locate human remains and body fluids including blood to very small samples in any environment or terrain.

[Eleanor]

If anyone is interested in The Casey Anthony Case, a Cadaver Dog Handler testified in Court, and agreed that A Cadaver Dog, in the absence of an actual Cadaver, will react to decomposing body fluids of Live People.  ie, Blood, Urine and Semen.

[John]

Patience Debunker...Rome wasn't built in a day. 

[debunker]

If anyone is interested in The Casey Anthony Case, a Cadaver Dog Handler testified in Court, and agreed that A Cadaver Dog, in the absence of an actual Cadaver, will react to decomposing body fluids of Live People.  ie, Blood, Urine and Semen.

Do you have a cite for that? I had not seen it.

WHere havethe [ censored word] gone?

[John]

Could you clear something up for me please?

I accept what you say about Eddie but can he notify an individual persons presence?  What I mean by this is could Eddie report Maddie's blood or fluids as distinct to anyone else?

[Eleanor]

If anyone is interested in The Casey Anthony Case, a Cadaver Dog Handler testified in Court, and agreed that A Cadaver Dog, in the absence of an actual Cadaver, will react to decomposing body fluids of Live People.  ie, Blood, Urine and Semen.

Do you have a cite for that? I had not seen it.

WHere havethe [ censored word] gone?

Sorry, I would have to trawl through all of the videos of The Casey Anthony Trial, which I watched in real time, so I know that it is true.  Sadly, I wouldn't know where to start.
But I will have a go at Google.

[debunker]

Patience Debunker...Rome wasn't built in a day. 

Trouble is that I have done this before and find thatwithoutthe protection of biased mods on their own site, they disappear into thenight.

Tony Bennett whho based hisnotorious booklets on the McCanns on misunderstandings about dogs andDNA turned uparguing on a neutral board (Aussie Rules football). I challenged him to debate and eventuallyhehadtoagree thathewas in error. All the [ censored word] then withdrew back to CMOMM andthey pretended ithad not happened.

I fear we maysee thesame thing here. Mythsaremore important to them thantruth.

[debunker]

If anyone is interested in The Casey Anthony Case, a Cadaver Dog Handler testified in Court, and agreed that A Cadaver Dog, in the absence of an actual Cadaver, will react to decomposing body fluids of Live People.  ie, Blood, Urine and Semen.

Do you have a cite for that? I had not seen it.

WHere havethe [ censored word] gone?

Sorry, I would have to trawl through all of the videos of The Casey Anthony Trial, which I watched in real time, so I know that it is true.  Sadly, I wouldn't know where to start.
But I will have a go at Google.

That would be invaluable.

[debunker]

Could you clear something up for me please?

I accept what you say about Eddie but can he notify an individual persons presence?  What I mean by this is could Eddie report Maddie's blood or fluids as distinct to anyone else?

No. Not only has he not beentrained forthat, but identification by dog has been widelydiscreditedin the US where ithad led to a series of obviously false convictions.

[Eleanor]

Could you clear something up for me please?

I accept what you say about Eddie but can he notify an individual persons presence?  What I mean by this is could Eddie report Maddie's blood or fluids as distinct to anyone else?

No, definitely not.  How would he do that?  He can't even indicate if his alerts come from a dead or alive person.

He was originally trained as a Victim Recovery Dog, finding people in disasters who were either dead or alive.  Very useful if you are lying under a pile of rubble and not yet dead.

[John]

...and what about the other dog, what is its name and what has it been trained in?

[Eleanor]

...and what about the other dog, what is its name and what has it been trained in?

Keela is what is termed as a Blood Detection Dog.  She can find Dried Blood from Dead or Alive people.  She can't tell the difference either.

[John]

Can one of the dogs detect a cadaver specifically?

[debunker]

...and what about the other dog, what is its name and what has it been trained in?

Keela is ablood dog. Eddie was originallytrained as a blooddog.

Blood dogs can detect tinyamounts ofblood by odor.