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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Global warming
« Reply #90 on: March 24, 2020, 12:01:17 AM »
It has cleared the smogg from  many heavily industrialised countries- it hasn't changed the climate at all.  She will be miffed because people are dying from corona and not from her climate change.
I think it takes more than a few smog free weeks for climate change to start going in reverse.
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Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: Global warming
« Reply #91 on: March 24, 2020, 01:44:56 PM »
I think we need to listen to what she says other wise climate change will kill millions. What she says is listen to the scientists

Her chosen scientist, because anyone who challenges them is regarded as 'deniers'  Her angst is via her parents who know her  mental state as being anxiety driven and irrational fear- so here she is screaming about the world ending/planet imploding in 12 years. due to people going about their business. SERIOUSLY. Her parents have an agenda and are using her.
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Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: Global warming
« Reply #92 on: March 24, 2020, 01:48:04 PM »
I think it takes more than a few smog free weeks for climate change to start going in reverse.

Oh climate change can be reversed by humans-  oh I didn't know that  can I have a cite with indepth analysis of how this will be achieved.

This lock down is very similar to what Greta et el wants. no cars /buses/ taking people to and from work - get them out of work if their  job intails  using solid fuels due to the ineffectiveness of wind power.
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Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Global warming
« Reply #93 on: March 24, 2020, 01:53:29 PM »
I think we need to listen to what she says other wise climate change will kill millions. What she says is listen to the scientists

I don't see the problem with this. The planet is overpopulated.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Global warming
« Reply #94 on: March 24, 2020, 03:34:29 PM »
I don't see the problem with this. The planet is overpopulated.

then you dont understand the problem...millions will die and  the world will become inhospitable

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Global warming
« Reply #95 on: March 24, 2020, 04:04:28 PM »
Oh climate change can be reversed by humans-  oh I didn't know that  can I have a cite with indepth analysis of how this will be achieved.

This lock down is very similar to what Greta et el wants. no cars /buses/ taking people to and from work - get them out of work if their  job intails  using solid fuels due to the ineffectiveness of wind power.
I could provide a million cites with i depth analysis but what would be the point?  You simply don’t accept it and that is that.

 How I like to look at it is say we managed to burn down every single tree on the planet.  Would that have any effect on the climate?  If not somebody please explain why not?  If it would have an effect then we are acknowledging that human actions can have consequences for the climate, something which sceptics refuse to accept.
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Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: Global warming
« Reply #96 on: March 24, 2020, 04:51:49 PM »
I could provide a million cites with i depth analysis but what would be the point?  You simply don’t accept it and that is that.

 How I like to look at it is say we managed to burn down every single tree on the planet.  Would that have any effect on the climate?  If not somebody please explain why not?  If it would have an effect then we are acknowledging that human actions can have consequences for the climate, something which sceptics refuse to accept.

Well a hypothesis is just that. What if's..  not an exact science.

How I like to look at it is this  what do humans require to survive?

The very basics:
 
Water- needs to be clean
Food- needs to be produced
Protection from the weather- regardless where on the planet you live. needs to be produced

We do not need houses or cars or planes or phones for basic survival however, as we have evolved these things and stuff have become necessities.

It is also worth remembering another thesis: where did humans come from?

It is believed by me and many like minded people that  when our galaxy was created we were a solid ice planet to begin with, as we were within  the suns rays and heat source  the planet earth got warmer- the ice began to melt.  Seas and oceans were sprouting plant life under these waters>  followed by micro creatures (bacteria) then came a more solid form bottom feeders then many sea creatures were created followed by amphibians who could survive under and out of water etc and so on.

Now these creatures has no influence over their environment as we do today and yet the planet got warmer- AND don't forget we have seasons as well.

It is not wise to claim the north and south pole is melting during the summer. It always does!!!!
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Global warming
« Reply #97 on: March 24, 2020, 05:34:08 PM »
Well a hypothesis is just that. What if's..  not an exact science.

How I like to look at it is this  what do humans require to survive?

The very basics:
 
Water- needs to be clean
Food- needs to be produced
Protection from the weather- regardless where on the planet you live. needs to be produced

We do not need houses or cars or planes or phones for basic survival however, as we have evolved these things and stuff have become necessities.

It is also worth remembering another thesis: where did humans come from?

It is believed by me and many like minded people that  when our galaxy was created we were a solid ice planet to begin with, as we were within  the suns rays and heat source  the planet earth got warmer- the ice began to melt.  Seas and oceans were sprouting plant life under these waters>  followed by micro creatures (bacteria) then came a more solid form bottom feeders then many sea creatures were created followed by amphibians who could survive under and out of water etc and so on.

Now these creatures has no influence over their environment as we do today and yet the planet got warmer- AND don't forget we have seasons as well.

It is not wise to claim the north and south pole is melting during the summer. It always does!!!!
It always does but does it always melt to the same extent every summer, or has the melt increased massively in the last 30 years? 
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Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Global warming
« Reply #98 on: March 24, 2020, 06:01:38 PM »
then you dont understand the problem...millions will die and  the world will become inhospitable

If millions die (preferably billions) there will be less Co2 emissions & pollution, which will make the planet more hospitable in the future, surely?
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Global warming
« Reply #99 on: March 24, 2020, 06:50:48 PM »
If millions die (preferably billions) there will be less Co2 emissions & pollution, which will make the planet more hospitable in the future, surely?

The damage will already have been done with areas once arable turned into desert

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Global warming
« Reply #100 on: March 24, 2020, 07:21:28 PM »
I firmly believe that anyone looking forward to a major extinction event on the basis that there are too many polluting people in the world should do the rest of us a favour by stepping up to the mark and doing the decent thing for the good of the planet.
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Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Global warming
« Reply #101 on: March 24, 2020, 08:09:17 PM »
I firmly believe that anyone looking forward to a major extinction event on the basis that there are too many polluting people in the world should do the rest of us a favour by stepping up to the mark and doing the decent thing for the good of the planet.

I firmly believe that those who have procreated have no right to whinge about climate change.
They caused the problem.
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Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Global warming
« Reply #102 on: March 24, 2020, 08:11:00 PM »
The damage will already have been done with areas once arable turned into desert

There will still be areas of the planet hospitable, provided enough people die & those left behind don't repeat the mistake of creating another glut of humanity.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Global warming
« Reply #103 on: March 24, 2020, 08:19:12 PM »
I firmly believe that those who have procreated have no right to whinge about climate change.
They caused the problem.
We have had two kids to replace us when we die.  Plus they are both likely to save the world being genii. 
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Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: Global warming
« Reply #104 on: March 24, 2020, 08:23:58 PM »
It always does but does it always melt to the same extent every summer, or has the melt increased massively in the last 30 years?

So what is it you are claiming? the melt has been caused by humans or because we are in the same solar system as the sun? The only predictable thing about the weather is- it is unpredictable.

Having based 30 years of dodgy stats on a planet that is probably millions of years old is futile to predict the future.

Ask the aborigines in OZ... they will tell you about great bush fires from long ago.etc
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