Global warming

[Vertigo Swirl]

So what is it you are claiming? the melt has been caused by humans or because we are in the same solar system as the sun? The only predictable thing about the weather is- it is unpredictable.

Having based 30 years of dodgy stats on a planet that is probably millions of years old is futile to predict the future.

Ask the aborigines in OZ... they will tell you about great bush fires from long ago.etc

Do you know for a fact that pollution caused by human activity has absolutely no effect on the earth’s climate? 

[Miss Taken Identity]

Do you know for a fact that pollution caused by human activity has absolutely no effect on the earth’s climate?

Pollution causes ill health,high death rates in large industrialised cities and towns. I am what some would call  an environmentalist- with reason- I do care about the planet you know!

 Does it affect the climate I would have to say no. Only because before the industrialisation of our planet was getting warmer  from year 1 and cooler due to the sun being in our solar system and its positioning.

That is a fact.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Pollution causes ill health,high death rates in large industrialised cities and towns. I am what some would call  an environmentalist- with reason- I do care about the planet you know!

 Does it affect the climate I would have to say no. Only because before the industrialisation of our planet was getting warmer  from year 1 and cooler due to the sun being in our solar system and its positioning.

That is a fact.

OK so could you please explain what has caused the planet to warm up in the past?

[Miss Taken Identity]

OK so could you please explain what has caused the planet to warm up in the past?

 


erm    The Sun which we orbit in our planetary system... The planets closest to the sun is very hot, those farthest is colder.. does that compute?

Our weather systems are also affected by outside our atmosphere. The moon and the tides -as an example.

https://solarsystem.nasa.gov/solar-system/our-solar-system/in-depth/

[Vertigo Swirl]

erm    The Sun which we orbit in our planetary system... The planets closest to the sun is very hot, those farthest is colder.. does that compute?

Our weather systems are also affected by outside our atmosphere. The moon and the tides -as an example.

https://solarsystem.nasa.gov/solar-system/our-solar-system/in-depth/

OK, I see all reasonable discourse has now come to an end.  Shame.  Ta ta.

[Vertigo Swirl]

The impact of trees on the Earth’s climate and what getting rid of them would mean for the planet (bearing in mind that the Earth’s natural forests have reduced massively in the last 100 years).
https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20190911-what-would-happen-if-all-the-worlds-trees-disappeared

[Mr Gray]

Pollution causes ill health,high death rates in large industrialised cities and towns. I am what some would call  an environmentalist- with reason- I do care about the planet you know!

 Does it affect the climate I would have to say no. Only because before the industrialisation of our planet was getting warmer  from year 1 and cooler due to the sun being in our solar system and its positioning.

That is a fact.

There is no doubt the planet has experienced changes in temp in the past and is experiencing change now...its getting warmer. i think you will find the evidence supports the fact that it is caused by man.
I always wondered why when we went to places such as spain for a holiday it was hot in the day and hot at night yet in the desert its freezing at night. when I worked out the answer i understood global warming

[misty]

erm    The Sun which we orbit in our planetary system... The planets closest to the sun is very hot, those farthest is colder.. does that compute?

Our weather systems are also affected by outside our atmosphere. The moon and the tides -as an example.

https://solarsystem.nasa.gov/solar-system/our-solar-system/in-depth/

Venus is hotter than Mercury but Mercury is closer to the Sun. Venus has a thicker atmosphere than Mercury - greenhouse gases are trapped - whereas Mercury is an airless planet.

[Mr Gray]

So what is it you are claiming? the melt has been caused by humans or because we are in the same solar system as the sun? The only predictable thing about the weather is- it is unpredictable.

Having based 30 years of dodgy stats on a planet that is probably millions of years old is futile to predict the future.

Ask the aborigines in OZ... they will tell you about great bush fires from long ago.etc

do you really think climate change science is based on 30 years of statistics...like most climate change deniers you show almost total ignorance of the true facts.

Paleoclimatology uses data from millions of years ago. The analysis of ice strata goes back around 800,000 years.
scientists have looked at the rise in temperature in the outer atmosphere where theres no carbon dioxide and the inner atmosphere where ther is carbon dioxide. The raise in temp is only in the inner. if the rise in temp was driven by solar activity or inclination the the temp rise would be the same in both...it isnt.

i wont ask you to supply any facts to support your denial because you wont be able to.

[Robittybob1]

do you really think climate change science is based on 30 years of statistics...like most climate change deniers you show almost total ignorance of the true facts.

Paleoclimatology uses data from millions of years ago. The analysis of ice strata goes back around 800,000 years.
scientists have looked at the rise in temperature in the outer atmosphere where theres no carbon dioxide and the inner atmosphere where ther is carbon dioxide. The raise in temp is only in the inner. if the rise in temp was driven by solar activity or inclination the the temp rise would be the same in both...it isnt.

i wont ask you to supply any facts to support your denial because you wont be able to.

Can you find cites that back your scientific facts?   You are talking about stuff I've never heard of.

[Mr Gray]

Can you find cites that back your scientific facts?   You are talking about stuff I've never heard of.

which of this have you never heard of

[Robittybob1]

which of this have you never heard of

This bit in particular "scientists have looked at the rise in temperature in the outer atmosphere where theres no carbon dioxide and the inner atmosphere where ther is carbon dioxide. The raise in temp is only in the inner."

[Mr Gray]

This bit in particular "scientists have looked at the rise in temperature in the outer atmosphere where theres no carbon dioxide and the inner atmosphere where ther is carbon dioxide. The raise in temp is only in the inner."

Ive read lots on climate change and cant find the source for that information... I was quite surprised by it too. If i come accross it again i'll post a link.

[Angelo222]

This bit in particular "scientists have looked at the rise in temperature in the outer atmosphere where theres no carbon dioxide and the inner atmosphere where ther is carbon dioxide. The raise in temp is only in the inner."

That sounds logical Rob.  It is the carbon that is being released into the lower atmosphere by burning fossil fuels and by the sea itself that is causing the damage.

As the world's oceans warm, their massive stores of dissolved carbon dioxide may be quick to bubble back out into the atmosphere and amplify the greenhouse effect, according to a new study. The oceans capture around 30 per cent of human carbon dioxide emissions and hide it in their depths.

https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn20413-warmer-oceans-release-co2-faster-than-thought/

[Miss Taken Identity]

That sounds logical Rob.  It is the carbon that is being released into the lower atmosphere by burning fossil fuels and by the sea itself that is causing the damage.

As the world's oceans warm, their massive stores of dissolved carbon dioxide may be quick to bubble back out into the atmosphere and amplify the greenhouse effect, according to a new study. The oceans capture around 30 per cent of human carbon dioxide emissions and hide it in their depths.

https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn20413-warmer-oceans-release-co2-faster-than-thought/

There is still no reliable evidence (student thesis and pseudo scientist like Davel don't count) to support it is caused by fossil fuels and the alarmists are just that... alarmists.
The ozone layer had a hole causing global warming we are all going to fry...the ozone layer has no hole people.

The planet heats up and cools down over many millenia- end of.


Something else to consider the planet has under the sea volcanoes!

https://www.geek.com/news/nasa-earths-deep-oceans-are-not-getting-warmer-1606209/