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Offline Eleanor

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #165 on: December 02, 2019, 10:41:28 AM »
If Madeleine was abducted and taken to live in another family she was definitely harmed psychologically by that experience in my opinion.

I wasn't harmed by my sojourn in a Children's Home.  Children adjust when they are very young, especially if they are treated well.

Okay.  No one is going to win this one. But I certainly do not hope that Madeleine is dead.

And of course, I would blame the Abductors,  who might not be the people with whom she could now be living, who themselves might not know who she is.

There is good money to be made from trafficking a child for illegal adoption.  It costs a lot of money to adopt a child Legally.

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #166 on: December 02, 2019, 11:03:26 AM »
Because Maddie died May 3rd 2007. Imo
Hmm.  So you DO believe it's possible for a young child to forget their siblings, own name and parents if abducted?  But you don't believe it applies in this case? 
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #167 on: December 02, 2019, 11:05:58 AM »
Stayner claims he knew who he was but was unaware of how to summon help.

Next.
So it's the "not knowing who she was in early childhood" that's the deal breaker for you is it?  So as far as you're concerned it's impossible for a child to be removed from their family and not know their original name, siblings, mother etc, yet I have just posted a case where this has been shown to have happened, which you dismissed because the child was abducted by their father.  There's not much logic there is there?
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline G-Unit

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #168 on: December 02, 2019, 11:31:33 AM »
I wasn't harmed by my sojourn in a Children's Home.  Children adjust when they are very young, especially if they are treated well.

Okay.  No one is going to win this one. But I certainly do not hope that Madeleine is dead.

And of course, I would blame the Abductors,  who might not be the people with whom she could now be living, who themselves might not know who she is.

There is good money to be made from trafficking a child for illegal adoption.  It costs a lot of money to adopt a child Legally.

Did you know who your family were?
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Offline Eleanor

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #169 on: December 02, 2019, 11:41:24 AM »
Did you know who your family were?

I was ten years old by then, so of course I did.

My point was that I wasn't harmed.  And that I long ago forgot who Maureen was or even is.

My second name is Eleanor Mitchell, so you all get what you see.

I bet that your second name isn't Gunit.

Offline G-Unit

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #170 on: December 02, 2019, 12:06:54 PM »
I was ten years old by then, so of course I did.

My point was that I wasn't harmed.  And that I long ago forgot who Maureen was or even is.

My second name is Eleanor Mitchell, so you all get what you see.

I bet that your second name isn't Gunit.

Your situation isn't similar to an abducted child's situation then.
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Offline Angelo222

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #171 on: December 02, 2019, 12:15:33 PM »
Hmm.  So you DO believe it's possible for a young child to forget their siblings, own name and parents if abducted?  But you don't believe it applies in this case?

Children as young a Maddie will forget most things which occurred in their foremost years.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #172 on: December 02, 2019, 12:18:18 PM »
Children as young a Maddie will forget most things which occurred in their foremost years.
Of course, they are also easily convinced and credulous at that age. 
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Mr Gray

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #173 on: December 02, 2019, 12:18:53 PM »
Children as young a Maddie will forget most things which occurred in their foremost years.

You've forgotten to put imo...
I have memories from two years old... So your statement isn't true.
I think Maddie would have memories... Particularly of being abducted if she was

Offline Eleanor

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #174 on: December 02, 2019, 12:22:57 PM »
Your situation isn't similar to an abducted child's situation then.

You are obfuscating again.  I had not much idea of who Maureen was when I was four years old, or even now.  If someone shouted Maureen I would not attribute it to me.

Offline Eleanor

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #175 on: December 02, 2019, 12:27:06 PM »
You've forgotten to put imo...
I have memories from two years old... So your statement isn't true.
I think Maddie would have memories... Particularly of being abducted if she was

This could well depend on what Madeleine was told at the time.  If she was told that her parents didn't want her anymore then it might have been best forgotten.

Offline G-Unit

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #176 on: December 02, 2019, 12:29:55 PM »
You've forgotten to put imo...
I have memories from two years old... So your statement isn't true.
I think Maddie would have memories... Particularly of being abducted if she was

A lot of children don't have early memories, but others do. In cases of trauma I think that memories survive because the child is forced to attempt to make sense of what's happening to them.
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Offline G-Unit

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #177 on: December 02, 2019, 12:32:29 PM »
This could well depend on what Madeleine was told at the time.  If she was told that her parents didn't want her anymore then it might have been best forgotten.

That would be extremely traumatic in my opinion and would never be forgotten.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #178 on: December 02, 2019, 12:37:10 PM »
A lot of children don't have early memories, but others do. In cases of trauma I think that memories survive because the child is forced to attempt to make sense of what's happening to them.

My memories aren't traumatic but I have said in the past that traumatic incidents are more likely to be remebered... It's therefore reasonable to believe that Maddie would have memories if she was, abducted and still alive

Offline G-Unit

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #179 on: December 02, 2019, 02:00:35 PM »
My memories aren't traumatic but I have said in the past that traumatic incidents are more likely to be remebered... It's therefore reasonable to believe that Maddie would have memories if she was, abducted and still alive

There are many variables. The memories might not make sense or be coherent, but they will be there imo.
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