A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?

[G-Unit]

It is indeed a great pity and it is a situation which let Madeleine down very badly.

One wonders why the Portuguese authorities didn't send in a team with the requisite training to deal with a missing child case instead of thief takers out of their depth before even starting. 
Indeed, Amaral became an arguido in the only other missing child case he had ever dealt with the day after Madeleine's disappearance.

Amaral and his cohort were not the only cops in Portugal.

I think the team you might be thinking of were sent in from Lisbon; the DCCB officers who came with Neves. They weren't forensic people though; they also came from Lisbon on 4th.

Were you expecting all these 'properly trained people' to arrive on the night of 3rd? How?

[Brietta]

I think the team you might be thinking of were sent in from Lisbon; the DCCB officers who came with Neves. They weren't forensic people though; they also came from Lisbon on 4th.

Were you expecting all these 'properly trained people' to arrive on the night of 3rd? How?

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Policia Judiciara (PJ) spokesman Olegario Sousa and Luis Neves from the Direccao Central de Combate ao Banditismo (DCCB), which deals with serious organised crime and terrorism, were thought to be there.
https://themaddiecasefiles.com/madeleine-suspect-gives-second-dna-sample-amid-05--t8609.html

I'm not sure what skills a team trained to handle organised crime and terrorism might have brought to the search for a missing child although I am sure someone somewhere in authority might have thought they would have their uses.

What do you know about a dedicated child protection unit based in Porto?

[jassi]

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Policia Judiciara (PJ) spokesman Olegario Sousa and Luis Neves from the Direccao Central de Combate ao Banditismo (DCCB), which deals with serious organised crime and terrorism, were thought to be there.
https://themaddiecasefiles.com/madeleine-suspect-gives-second-dna-sample-amid-05--t8609.html

I'm not sure what skills a team trained to handle organised crime and terrorism might have brought to the search for a missing child although I am sure someone somewhere in authority might have thought they would have their uses.

What do you know about a dedicated child protection unit based in Porto?

Perhaps they were considering the possibility of people trafficking at that time. That's likely to be considered to be organised crime.

[G-Unit]

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Policia Judiciara (PJ) spokesman Olegario Sousa and Luis Neves from the Direccao Central de Combate ao Banditismo (DCCB), which deals with serious organised crime and terrorism, were thought to be there.
https://themaddiecasefiles.com/madeleine-suspect-gives-second-dna-sample-amid-05--t8609.html

I'm not sure what skills a team trained to handle organised crime and terrorism might have brought to the search for a missing child although I am sure someone somewhere in authority might have thought they would have their uses.

What do you know about a dedicated child protection unit based in Porto?

You don't know the capabilities of the people who were brought in then? Newspaper articles are not always the best sources imo.

POLICE REINFORCEMENTS

A team from the Central Crime Fighting Directorate (DCCB) arrives from Lisbon, accompanied by their director. I wasn't informed of this decision, but I agree with it. The reinforcements are welcomed, because we must get on very quickly. The experience of these police officers in the field of abductions and the taking of hostages is a plus for the investigation and the ways they operate are largely superior to ours. In addition, their experts are the most qualified of the police judiciaire. From now on, two deputy national directors, assisted by the coordinator of the Portimao Department of Criminal Investigation, will direct the investigations.
https://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/AMARALS_BOOK_ENGLISH.htm

[Brietta]

You don't know the capabilities of the people who were brought in then? Newspaper articles are not always the best sources imo.

POLICE REINFORCEMENTS

A team from the Central Crime Fighting Directorate (DCCB) arrives from Lisbon, accompanied by their director. I wasn't informed of this decision, but I agree with it. The reinforcements are welcomed, because we must get on very quickly. The experience of these police officers in the field of abductions and the taking of hostages is a plus for the investigation and the ways they operate are largely superior to ours. In addition, their experts are the most qualified of the police judiciaire. From now on, two deputy national directors, assisted by the coordinator of the Portimao Department of Criminal Investigation, will direct the investigations.
https://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/AMARALS_BOOK_ENGLISH.htm

I don't think Amaral had much option but to agree with something which according to him was already a fait accompli by the time he was told about it.

So when did this crack outfit leave Lisbon and put feet on the ground in Luz how long did they stay there?  Any ideas about which of the theories doing the rounds do you think they might have contribute to?

[pathfinder73]

The McCanns were slower informing the police than it took them to get there. They claim they knew Madeleine had been abducted but didn't immediately call the police?  Was this not an emergency? 22:41 the police were finally informed and they arrived within 30 minutes. The McCanns can't talk about a slow response!  The golden hour was gone!

Smithman out and about on dark back streets with a Madeleine clone may explain it 

[Vertigo Swirl]

The McCanns were slower informing the police than it took them to get there. They claim they knew Madeleine had been abducted but didn't immediately call the police?  Was this not an emergency? 22:41 the police were finally informed and they arrived within 30 minutes. The McCanns can't talk about a slow response!  The golden hour was gone!

Smithman out and about on dark back streets with a Madeleine clone may explain it 

This is such a dumb argument and yet it gets trotted out with tedious regularity. 

[pathfinder73]

This is such a dumb argument and yet it gets trotted out with tedious regularity.

She was quick to get help from her friends but not the police. How strange! You think she would be screaming for them to be here NOW! Not an hour later.

[Miss Taken Identity]

The McCanns were slower informing the police than it took them to get there. They claim they knew Madeleine had been abducted but didn't immediately call the police?  Was this not an emergency? 22:41 the police were finally informed and they arrived within 30 minutes. The McCanns can't talk about a slow response!  The golden hour was gone!

Smithman out and about on dark back streets with a Madeleine clone may explain it 

I love this Brietta quote: "It is indeed a great pity and it is a situation which let Madeleine down very badly."

You would think someone who was concerned about a missing child would at least say as well as the parents ;letting her down so did the police.

But well that is never going to happen. But worth reminding people the TAPAS 9 ADULTS are the main reasons for their daughter going missing.


"The golden hour was gone!"  We don't know when that actual golden hour was do we?

It seems callous to  have a mobile phone at your disposal and not use it to call the police or reception to call the police immediately Kate claims she found Madeleine missing.  Oh no BIG DRAMA ensued.

She leaves the twins- runs over to the tapas group, who most all go to search the apartment - after Kate did that- and then someone thought it might be a good idea to phone the police.  meanwhile- they appear to be discussing what MBM was wearing and an abductor was suggested and well it just took off from there.

[Miss Taken Identity]

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[Vertigo Swirl]

She was quick to get help from her friends but not the police. How strange! You think she would be screaming for them to be here NOW! Not an hour later.

It took Sara Payne nearly two hours before she called the police when Sarah disappeared.  HOW STRANGE!!!  Not.  The McCanns believed the police had been summoned in much less than an hour after Madeleine's disappearance so what is your point?

[pathfinder73]

Kate has repeatedly said that she knew Madeleine was abducted straight away on entering that bedroom so why didn't she call the police in an emergency? You call the police and do it! It's your child! It is a question she needs to answer because her words and actions don't add up!

Not calling the police and not answering their questions:

26. Is it true that during the searches you remained seated on Maddie’s bed without moving?

[Vertigo Swirl]

Kate has repeatedly said that she knew Madeleine was abducted straight away on entering that bedroom so why didn't she call the police in an emergency? You call the police and do it! It's your child! It is a question she needs to answer because her words and actions don't add up!

Not calling the police and not answering their questions:

26. Is it true that during the searches you remained seated on Maddie’s bed without moving?

Because, like any other human, the rational part of her brain would be saying: "let's not jump to hasty conclusions and conduct a proper search of the immediate area before alerting the police and possibly wasting their time".  No doubt even if this was not what the rational part of her brain was saying, it is likely what the rest of her group was telling her.  Try and be reasonable FGS. 

[Miss Taken Identity]

Hi Pathfinder. What do you mean when you say you could go through the door in the gap?  Do you think the patio door shutters were not down then?  I wonder what the line of sight was like to there from the Tapas?

The patio doors did not have shutters that was the bedroom window shutters being discussed as a means of entry and exit for alleged abductor.

The line of sight from the tapas to the apartment was obscured by shrubs and bushes, only the top of the apartments roof was visible.

[Miss Taken Identity]

 

Some people speak on behalf of all other humans??


OMG

This was a doctor used to dealing with emergencies! Stood in front of cameras and forgave a suspected paedophile for abducting their daughter. WHAT??!  How many humans would do that?