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Offline ShiningInLuz

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #780 on: December 16, 2019, 12:40:44 PM »

At last, an interesting and relevant question!

Will we get an interesting and relevant answer?
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Offline G-Unit

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #781 on: December 16, 2019, 01:15:16 PM »
As I recall from posts, at the time yes.  It wasn't common but it wasn't abnormal

I think your recollections are faulty. I also think that in 2007 leaving children home alone was not something most people did. Therefore it was normal to ensure children were supervised and abnormal not to.
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Offline sadie

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #782 on: December 16, 2019, 01:16:30 PM »
some would love  censorship on  here and for us so  called anti mcanns   to not  talk   about the mccans  flaws and  plot  holes in their  stories

Unless lies are being told or people are being abused or libelled, ganged up upon etc., I don't actually like censorship on either side.

With so many untruths, twisting of words it is no wonder that some sensorship is happening.

Offline The General

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #783 on: December 16, 2019, 01:19:22 PM »
I think your recollections are faulty. I also think that in 2007 leaving children home alone was not something most people did. Therefore it was normal to ensure children were supervised and abnormal not to.
Factor in the McCann revisionism, subtract the first number you thought of.....now it's normal! BOOM!
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Offline Brietta

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #784 on: December 16, 2019, 01:34:37 PM »
How can it be off-topic when I was recounting the theory of another...thread title...: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?

According to your initial post that is incorrect.

On the basis that you had listened in to her conversation about family gatherings, unsolicited you asked her opinion ~ "I asked her opinion about MM case and she said most of Portugal think McCanns responsible."

Her response suggests that she was astounded at the query as I bet most people would have been but contrary to your suggestion I don't think she even gave you her opinion let alone a theory.
Her alleged response according to you was nothing more or less than an embarrassing (for you) generalisation ... and your post about it caused deflection.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Brietta

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #785 on: December 16, 2019, 01:47:53 PM »
In my opinion the cultural differences between the Portuguese and the British made it very difficult for the Portuguese to understand and accept the McCann's method of 'childcare'. It was difficult for many British people to understand too, despite what Jane Tanner said.

It is normal (culturally, traditionally, education/examples seen) [for] English tourists to leave, for some time, their small children alone in the bedroom/apartment to sleep while the parents are absent, normally guaranteeing that it is done for short periods of time (15/30 minutes). At those times there is a sporadic check, in time, of the places where the children are.
https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/JANE-TANNER-10MAY.htm

What, I wonder, did Jane mean? As far as I know the group she was with were the only people staying at the Ocean Club that week who decided to do that. That makes it anything but normal imo.

Well might you wonder.

Like me perhaps you would rather have relied on a verbatim report or a recorded one than place any reliance on a paraphrased account from a translator then translated by a volunteer translator doing it in a rush.

No wonder you appear to be confused.


"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline G-Unit

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #786 on: December 16, 2019, 02:21:10 PM »
Well might you wonder.

Like me perhaps you would rather have relied on a verbatim report or a recorded one than place any reliance on a paraphrased account from a translator then translated by a volunteer translator doing it in a rush.

No wonder you appear to be confused.

I think Jane's intention was to suggest that leaving small children home alone when on holiday was some sort of  British cultural tradition. It wasn't.
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Offline Lace

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« Reply #787 on: December 16, 2019, 02:26:21 PM »
Many will think 'no smoke without fire' and the British tabloids certainly played a part in shaping opinion.  Ok they had to shell out and T7 minus ROB were happy to stand for photo shoot outside court but damage was done.

Yes I remember reading about the 100% DNA of Madeleine in the paper and thought,  OMG!!    I really feel sorry for the McCann's,  news like that spreading like wild fire and not able to put their side of the story out there.  It was the right time for them to leave Portugal,  Amaral had made sure people thought they were guilty,  no one was searching for Madeleine.

Offline The General

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #788 on: December 16, 2019, 02:30:56 PM »
Yes I remember reading about the 100% DNA of Madeleine in the paper and thought,  OMG!!    I really feel sorry for the McCann's,  news like that spreading like wild fire and not able to put their side of the story out there.  It was the right time for them to leave Portugal,  Amaral had made sure people thought they were guilty,  no one was searching for Madeleine.
What constitutes 'searching' post the initial 3 months for a member of the general public?
And everyone just totally stopped searching?

Everton chairman Bill Kenwright said: "I will never, ever forget that image of a beautiful, smiling child in an Everton shirt.

"I believe that I was one of the first people outside the family to see it and it moved me greatly.

"In truth, like everyone else, I have felt nothing but deep sadness and mounting frustration as the search for Maddie has continued.

"However, I continue to be inspired by the dignity and the faith which Kate and Gerry have displayed throughout their dreadful ordeal.

"This is just our way of reminding people - not just in the UK and Portugal but across the globe - that this child is still out there somewhere."


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/merseyside/8317910.stm
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Offline Brietta

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #789 on: December 16, 2019, 03:58:06 PM »
I think Jane's intention was to suggest that leaving small children home alone when on holiday was some sort of  British cultural tradition. It wasn't.
Unlike you I don't wonder ... I know that what Jane said was paraphrased by interpreter Filipa Maria da Conceicao Silva, therefore what we are reading was not said by Jane.
What I don't know is how many times it was translated until eventually being translated by volunteers before being posted on the internet.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline G-Unit

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #790 on: December 16, 2019, 04:01:09 PM »
Unlike you I don't wonder ... I know that what Jane said was paraphrased by interpreter Filipa Maria da Conceicao Silva, therefore what we are reading was not said by Jane.
What I don't know is how many times it was translated until eventually being translated by volunteers before being posted on the internet.

I think you're either fooling yourself or trying to fool others.
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Offline Holly Goodhead

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #791 on: December 16, 2019, 04:07:11 PM »
According to your initial post that is incorrect.

On the basis that you had listened in to her conversation about family gatherings, unsolicited you asked her opinion ~ "I asked her opinion about MM case and she said most of Portugal think McCanns responsible."

Her response suggests that she was astounded at the query as I bet most people would have been but contrary to your suggestion I don't think she even gave you her opinion let alone a theory.
Her alleged response according to you was nothing more or less than an embarrassing (for you) generalisation ... and your post about it caused deflection.

I could not help but overhear given I was in an M&S changing room trying on some rather attractive bras from the 'Rosie' range and the Potuguese woman, an M&S employee, was standing outside discussing her family gatherings with a colleague.  We ended up discussing the case for some 10 mins and even exchanged mobile numbers so that we can meet up for a coffee to discuss further. 

Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?

Offline Brietta

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #792 on: December 16, 2019, 04:07:53 PM »
I think you're either fooling yourself or trying to fool others.

Please debate my post even if it is now off topic like all the rest ... please do not make personal attacks on me by making spurious allegations.  That is contrary to forum rules.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Brietta

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #793 on: December 16, 2019, 04:25:46 PM »
I could not help but overhear given I was in an M&S changing room trying on some rather attractive bras from the 'Rosie' range and the Potuguese woman, an M&S employee, was standing outside discussing her family gatherings with a colleague.  We ended up discussing the case for some 10 mins and even exchanged mobile numbers so that we can meet up for a coffee to discuss further.

Do you really think these posts detailing your personal life are relevant to the thread topic or of general interest.

Please consider this question rhetorical.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Myster

Re: A Good, Bad or Average Theory What's The Difference?
« Reply #794 on: December 16, 2019, 04:28:53 PM »
Don't answer that, Holly.
It's one of them cases, in'it... one of them f*ckin' cases.