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Offline G-Unit

Re: KM's Paperback (PB)
« Reply #345 on: October 28, 2019, 08:56:22 AM »
I have no respect for those who seem to dedicate all their spare time to denigrating a woman who wrote a well received and best selling book about the trauma of losing her child, who pick on every word of that book to question, doubt,  ridicule and pretend to be outraged by and who are able to read it and yet remain completely unmoved by it.  Perhaps I should just feel sorry for such people as clearly they don’t like it up ‘em.  It may have escaped your attention but during the heated debate yesterday I too was “abused” but I didn’t cry about it or beg my abuser to desist.

Whatever you think abusing other members is not the answer.

You certainly have a talent for misrepresentation. I neither cried nor begged, I strongly objected to your abuse and told you to stop.

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Offline ShiningInLuz

Re: KM's Paperback (PB)
« Reply #346 on: October 28, 2019, 08:59:12 AM »
Returning to the topic.

I read the book by sheer chance.  I had no knowledge of the case and no preconceptions.

I would categorise the book as an attempt at PR/image management.

Whilst I didn't formulate the thought then, I have come to the opinion that Madeleine is not the principal focus.
What's up, old man?

Offline Robittybob1

Re: KM's Paperback (PB)
« Reply #347 on: October 28, 2019, 09:02:43 AM »
Returning to the topic.

I read the book by sheer chance.  I had no knowledge of the case and no preconceptions.

I would categorise the book as an attempt at PR/image management.

Whilst I didn't formulate the thought then, I have come to the opinion that Madeleine is not the principal focus.
What is the principle focus then?  I thought it might be whether faith will prevail.
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Offline Holly Goodhead

Re: KM's Paperback (PB)
« Reply #348 on: October 28, 2019, 09:03:53 AM »
Returning to the topic.

I read the book by sheer chance.  I had no knowledge of the case and no preconceptions.

I would categorise the book as an attempt at PR/image management.

Whilst I didn't formulate the thought then, I have come to the opinion that Madeleine is not the principal focus.

Yes that pretty well sums up my thoughts. 
Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?

Offline Brietta

Re: KM's Paperback (PB)
« Reply #349 on: October 28, 2019, 09:05:58 AM »
Returning to the topic.

I read the book by sheer chance.  I had no knowledge of the case and no preconceptions.

I would categorise the book as an attempt at PR/image management.

Whilst I didn't formulate the thought then, I have come to the opinion that Madeleine is not the principal focus.

What do you think the principal focus is?
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Mr Gray

Re: KM's Paperback (PB)
« Reply #350 on: October 28, 2019, 09:06:14 AM »
I don't claim to be perfect Davel.  My stats show I make on average 3.838 posts per day and I know for sure the vast majority ie something like 99% are benign and case related.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: KM's Paperback (PB)
« Reply #351 on: October 28, 2019, 09:07:10 AM »
Returning to the topic.

I read the book by sheer chance.  I had no knowledge of the case and no preconceptions.

I would categorise the book as an attempt at PR/image management.

Whilst I didn't formulate the thought then, I have come to the opinion that Madeleine is not the principal focus.

i would say the book was written to raise money because maddie is the principal focus

Offline Holly Goodhead

Re: KM's Paperback (PB)
« Reply #352 on: October 28, 2019, 09:07:31 AM »
Kate's book is quite religious IMO.

Davel I'm sure you have told the forum that you aren't religious (that might be 1 year back now).
Gerry fell on the ground and prayed like an Arab.  Would you do that?

I wouldn't describe it as religious but she was brought up in the Catholic faith which she continues to believe in despite the tragedy that has befallen her and so yes she makes reference from time-to-time about her belief in the power of prayer. 
Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?

Offline Mr Gray

Re: KM's Paperback (PB)
« Reply #353 on: October 28, 2019, 09:09:25 AM »
Kate's book is quite religious IMO.

Davel I'm sure you have told the forum that you aren't religious (that might be 1 year back now).
Gerry fell on the ground and prayed like an Arab.  Would you do that?

none of your business really rob

Offline Robittybob1

Re: KM's Paperback (PB)
« Reply #354 on: October 28, 2019, 09:14:38 AM »
I wouldn't describe it as religious but she was brought up in the Catholic faith which she continues to believe in despite the tragedy that has befallen her and so yes she makes reference from time-to-time about her belief in the power of prayer.
Well I remember that Kate included many of her prayers in the book.  OK if she does make reference to "her belief in the power of prayer", it will become a most remarkable book if ever Madeleine is found to be still alive after all of these years.  If she has never lost her faith.  IMO Most people would have given up by now.
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Offline ShiningInLuz

Re: KM's Paperback (PB)
« Reply #355 on: October 28, 2019, 09:16:38 AM »
What do you think the principal focus is?

For me, it remains as image management.

It is akin to picking up Antony and Cleopatra, only to find they are not the principal characters.

That split still appears to permeate this forum.  Is Madeleine the main focus?

Hand on heart I would have to say that for many here it appears not.
What's up, old man?

Offline Brietta

Re: KM's Paperback (PB)
« Reply #356 on: October 28, 2019, 09:19:03 AM »
Kate's book is quite religious IMO.

Davel I'm sure you have told the forum that you aren't religious (that might be 1 year back now).
Gerry fell on the ground and prayed like an Arab.  Would you do that?

I don't think it at all surprising that anyone in the circumstances Gerry found himself in would be overcome and collapse in despair at the enormity of it all.
I think the description of it and the parents' distress as portrayed in Amaral's documentary quite extraordinary and puts the descriptive Tweedledum and Tweedledee in Kate's book into perspective.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Robittybob1

Re: KM's Paperback (PB)
« Reply #357 on: October 28, 2019, 09:20:12 AM »
none of your business really rob
Well I forget what prompted me to ask you about your faith, but at times I have been really offended by your criticism of mine.  Yet you back Kate who is a lot more religious than me.  I find that hard to understand.
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Offline Lace

Re: KM's Paperback (PB)
« Reply #358 on: October 28, 2019, 09:21:19 AM »
I have no respect for those who seem to dedicate all their spare time to denigrating a woman who wrote a well received and best selling book about the trauma of losing her child, who pick on every word of that book to question, doubt,  ridicule and pretend to be outraged by and who are able to read it and yet remain completely unmoved by it.  Perhaps I should just feel sorry for such people as clearly they don’t like it up ‘em.  It may have escaped your attention but during the heated debate yesterday I too was “abused” but I didn’t cry about it or beg my abuser to desist.

I don't think Kate professed to being a talented 'writer'  she just did her best with the use of her diary to describe to the reader what happened on the night of 3rd of May and the following days.

So to ridicule what she has written [which is usually by those who have the belief that Kate is some how guilty of hiding Madeleine's body and knowing that she is dead]   is just something that is quite sad in my opinion.

There have been the outrage 'how dare she talk about Madeleine's private parts like that'  to the ridiculous 'It's all about Kate nothing about Madeleine'   'Madeleine should have a capital M'.

I would just like to ask if you were writing a  book about your missing child and describing the horror of finding her missing,  to the absolute disbelief when you are accused of having something to do with your child's disappearance,  added to that,  the continual torment of your imagination playing havoc with your mind to having the person leading the investigation write a book saying your child was dead and you hid her body.

How would you go about it?   For one,  I don't think you would fill the book about Madeleine,   what would you say?   Madeleine lived at @@@@@@  she went to nursery at @@@@@@ she was due to attend school at @@@@@   what would any of this information matter to anyone?   I find it very strange that people actually want to know the ins and outs of a child who wasn't even four when she disappeared.    The book title was no doubt left to the Publisher.   As to the description of Madeleine's private parts being torn apart,  I thought Kate was very honest there,  saying 'I was plagued by visions of what a Paedophile was doing to my child'  would not have cut to the very sole of a reader as much as 'torn genitals' would.   That picture would be the horror of horrors.  Kate wasn't showing a picture,  she could have been describing any innocent child's private parts it was the horrifying picture she wanted to drum home. 

To feel no emotion when reading Kates book is very strange.   Maybe these people have no children and have never had the absolute love you feel for your child.   When you lose them for a short time,  the dread and fear that you feel,  it's as if your heart is going to stop,  your knees give in and you feel cut off from reality.   When you find your  child, the relief is over whelming.   I really can't imagine what it must have been like to not find your child and to live with the loss day after day.  I think Kate did well to try and give the reader a slight insight into her existence without Madeleine.


Offline Holly Goodhead

Re: KM's Paperback (PB)
« Reply #359 on: October 28, 2019, 09:24:31 AM »
Well I remember that Kate included many of her prayers in the book.  OK if she does make reference to "her belief in the power of prayer", it will become a most remarkable book if ever Madeleine is found to be still alive after all of these years.  If she has never lost her faith.  IMO Most people would have given up by now.

Afaik she does not quote any prayers just refers to praying at times and asking others to do the same. 

If MM is found alive I doubt it will have anything to do with any God(s) and/or praying.

KM mentions that GM has questioned the power of prayer. 
Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?