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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: KM's Paperback (PB)
« Reply #705 on: October 31, 2019, 10:20:16 AM »
That's assuming the McCanns are victims.

I'm yet to see any proof that they didn't do it.
Perhaps you should get down to Specsavers then.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: KM's Paperback (PB)
« Reply #706 on: October 31, 2019, 10:21:58 AM »
The unacceptable behaviour of the parents in conducting a media campaign resulting in thousands of time-wasting sightings did more damage than anything the PJ did. Had the crime occured in the UK the police would have stopped that from happening in my opinion. I think OG have stopped it now, but it took a while.
What gives you that impression?  Don’t the police in this country hold regular public appeals using grieving parents in news bulletins appealing for the safe return of their children anymore?  What about Crimewatch? 
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Holly Goodhead

Re: KM's Paperback (PB)
« Reply #707 on: October 31, 2019, 10:22:16 AM »
I take it you have read Kate's book??  If you have you will see that the McCanns worked out long, long ago that they made a stupid decision which they will have to live with forever.

Why do you feel the need to shoulder their burden by constant repetition?

Why do some feel the need to constantly criticise and denigrate PJ? 



Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?

Offline Brietta

Re: KM's Paperback (PB)
« Reply #708 on: October 31, 2019, 10:22:44 AM »
The unacceptable behaviour of the parents in conducting a media campaign resulting in thousands of time-wasting sightings did more damage than anything the PJ did. Had the crime occured in the UK the police would have stopped that from happening in my opinion. I think OG have stopped it now, but it took a while.

You will note from Kate's book that the reason the McCanns had to conduct a media campaign was that no-one was looking for Madeleine.

Scotland Yard and the Judicial Police did indeed halt the necessity for the McCann investigations by the simple expediency of reopening Madeleine's case.  Very simple really when one thinks about it.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Holly Goodhead

Re: KM's Paperback (PB)
« Reply #709 on: October 31, 2019, 10:24:33 AM »
You will note from Kate's book that the reason the McCanns had to conduct a media campaign was that no-one was looking for Madeleine.

Scotland Yard and the Judicial Police did indeed halt the necessity for the McCann investigations by the simple expediency of reopening Madeleine's case.  Very simple really when one thinks about it.

I thought the McCanns employed several firms of private investigators to look for MM?
Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?

Offline G-Unit

Re: KM's Paperback (PB)
« Reply #710 on: October 31, 2019, 10:25:33 AM »
I take it you have read Kate's book??  If you have you will see that the McCanns worked out long, long ago that they made a stupid decision which they will have to live with forever.

Why do you feel the need to shoulder their burden by constant repetition?

The McCanns wilfully ignored the guidlines on childcare, even after they had reason to believe their 'listening system' wasn't working. Their reasons for doing so are not convincing imo.
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Offline Brietta

Re: KM's Paperback (PB)
« Reply #711 on: October 31, 2019, 10:27:18 AM »
Why do some feel the need to constantly criticise and denigrate PJ?

I am sorry you feel the necessity of making that accusation. 
Might I refer you back to Kate's book, not for a cherry picking exercise, but for some in depth reading which might enable a better understanding of what the families of the missing have no choice but to live with for the rest of their lives.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: KM's Paperback (PB)
« Reply #712 on: October 31, 2019, 10:28:06 AM »
The McCanns wilfully ignored the guidlines on childcare, even after they had reason to believe their 'listening system' wasn't working. Their reasons for doing so are not convincing imo.
Nor are your reasons for continually banging on about it week in week out for 12 years.  We got the message already.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline G-Unit

Re: KM's Paperback (PB)
« Reply #713 on: October 31, 2019, 10:28:44 AM »
You will note from Kate's book that the reason the McCanns had to conduct a media campaign was that no-one was looking for Madeleine.

Scotland Yard and the Judicial Police did indeed halt the necessity for the McCann investigations by the simple expediency of reopening Madeleine's case.  Very simple really when one thinks about it.

The McCann's campaign began at around 3am on 4th May 2007, and continued throughout the first PJ investigation.
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Offline Brietta

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« Reply #714 on: October 31, 2019, 10:29:40 AM »
I thought the McCanns employed several firms of private investigators to look for MM?

You might find that information in Kate McCann's book which I believe might be the topic of this particular thread.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline G-Unit

Re: KM's Paperback (PB)
« Reply #715 on: October 31, 2019, 10:31:12 AM »
What gives you that impression?  Don’t the police in this country hold regular public appeals using grieving parents in news bulletins appealing for the safe return of their children anymore?  What about Crimewatch?

Organised and controlled by the police.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: KM's Paperback (PB)
« Reply #716 on: October 31, 2019, 10:32:32 AM »
Organised and controlled by the police.
So what unhelpful behaviours specifically are you objecting to from the McCanns in the first investigation, that you think the police in this country would have put a stop to?
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Offline Lace

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« Reply #717 on: October 31, 2019, 10:32:53 AM »
A sense of urgency, coupled with a completely open mind, plenty of highly trained resources, efficient filing systems and cross referencing, rapid pursuance of credible leads, proper note and statement taking (audio recordings at the very least), professional translators, loads more but I’m getting ready right now...

Well  said.   

I would add an understanding of the forensic evidence.

Offline Brietta

Re: KM's Paperback (PB)
« Reply #718 on: October 31, 2019, 10:34:41 AM »
The McCanns wilfully ignored the guidlines on childcare, even after they had reason to believe their 'listening system' wasn't working. Their reasons for doing so are not convincing imo.
That is your opinion.  Please tie it in to something which is in the book and therefore on topic.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Holly Goodhead

Re: KM's Paperback (PB)
« Reply #719 on: October 31, 2019, 10:36:47 AM »
You might find that information in Kate McCann's book which I believe might be the topic of this particular thread.

Do you have any specific dates for when no one was looking for MM as you claimed?
Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?