The truth about the Cadaver Dogs and DNA

[Eleanor]

Chloroform tests done on Madeleine's bed proved negative.

Link, please.  Although Chloroform dissipates very quickly.  Try Google.  And do stop lying.  You aren't on Twitter now.

I am not lyng, if you accuse anyone of lying you have to say why, and I am not, or ever have been, on Twitter. Paranoid as well as abusive? Oh dear. What a combination. There you go, I did your donkey work for you.
 


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http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/5A_FORENSIC_4_5_7.htm

The area of the pillow of the bed from the minor disappeared was inspected with the intention to detect the presence of some smell [aroma] characteristic of volatile substances typical of chloroform or ether, this search proving negative

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That was why the window was opened.  And it certainly wasn't tested that night.  Nite, nite.  Or tara if you prefer

[AnneGuedes]

Chloroform has a strong, dangerous and very short effect (some minutes). Besides it is extremely volatile and you risk to dizzy yourself trying to chloroform someone.
The chilly night would have woken up a child in pyjamas unless she was under heavy sedation. But it's not easy to sedate someone. You need specific material.

[Redblossom]

Why would anyone want to sedate the twins? If they were in and out in two seconds, not as if anyone would hear them is it?  As if they would  woke up in the first place by someone sneaking in and out on a few seconds

And if the twins were thought to be sedated why did the Mccanns never take them to hospital

[AnneGuedes]

There was no need to sedate the twins. No time too. An abductor would have to 1) apply ether or something equivalent to make sure the victim will not scream and 2) apply a proper sedation. Complex task.
Sedating would have been far easier if done by the mother : Théralène, Rivotril... in a glass of milk or orange juice, deep sedation and no risk. But how would the abductor have known that and taken advantage of it ?
If the abductor is the sedator, it's rather corny. He would have to use some kind of oxygen bottle with azote protoxyd, kalinox or entonox (very much used in paediatrics).

[amaraltheofficeboy]

There was no need to sedate the twins. No time too. An abductor would have to 1) apply ether or something equivalent to make sure the victim will not scream and 2) apply a proper sedation. Complex task.
Sedating would have been far easier if done by the mother : Théralène, Rivotril... in a glass of milk or orange juice, deep sedation and no risk. But how would the abductor have known that and taken advantage of it ?
If the abductor is the sedator, it's rather corny. He would have to use some kind of oxygen bottle with azote protoxyd, kalinox or entonox (very much used in paediatrics).

fascinating

[Redblossom]

There was no need to sedate the twins. No time too. An abductor would have to 1) apply ether or something equivalent to make sure the victim will not scream and 2) apply a proper sedation. Complex task.
Sedating would have been far easier if done by the mother : Théralène, Rivotril... in a glass of milk or orange juice, deep sedation and no risk. But how would the abductor have known that and taken advantage of it ?
If the abductor is the sedator, it's rather corny. He would have to use some kind of oxygen bottle with azote protoxyd, kalinox or entonox (very much used in paediatrics).

It is ridicilous, as ridiculous as kate mccann saying that madeleine was sedated while under the care of her creche workers during the day of thursday
 

[Carana]

There was no need to sedate the twins. No time too. An abductor would have to 1) apply ether or something equivalent to make sure the victim will not scream and 2) apply a proper sedation. Complex task.
Sedating would have been far easier if done by the mother : Théralène, Rivotril... in a glass of milk or orange juice, deep sedation and no risk. But how would the abductor have known that and taken advantage of it ?
If the abductor is the sedator, it's rather corny. He would have to use some kind of oxygen bottle with azote protoxyd, kalinox or entonox (very much used in paediatrics).

It is ridicilous, as ridiculous as kate mccann saying that madeleine was sedated while under the care of her creche workers during the day of thursday
 

Where did she say that they had been? If your child was missing, wouldn't you try to think of every possibility? Even if you discard them?

I don't see what's so amusing.

[AnneGuedes]

Neither do I.

[AnneGuedes]

I'm glad not to be alone to think so.

[Redblossom]

Carana Kate Mccann in her book has said she is convinced her twins were sedated, my laughing icon was about her suggesting creche staff sedated Madeleine or sedated while under their watch and care, perhaps it should have been a disgusted smiley for her finding another person to blame,  but i cant find one

it is  a fact that in her book Kate Mccann is scathing about so many people, most of them innocent people, and is un grateful as well to many people who helped, for her to complain that people werent organised enough when she never put a foot outdoors to search for her child is pathetic at best, at best

[AnneGuedes]

The trouble is mixing judgements with facts. If we don't stick to facts, there's no hope of any kind of achievement. We're losing our time ! Sad !

[amaraltheofficeboy]

maybe you are too used to forums that like laughing smilies to persecute parents and mock their situation.

(it is a statement - not a question)

....moderated....

very disappointed with your reply. I have known you for so long and you mix up the lamp post thread with this one.

[AnneGuedes]

A long night ?
I thought posters wanted to reflect, I reckon they prefer provoking. I better quit.
Farewell !

[Carana]

Carana Kate Mccann in her book has said she is convinced her twins were sedated, my laughing icon was about her suggesting creche staff sedated Madeleine or sedated while under their watch and care, perhaps it should have been a disgusted smiley for her finding another person to blame,  but i cant find one

it is  a fact that in her book Kate Mccann is scathing about so many people, most of them innocent people, and is un grateful as well to many people who helped, for her to complain that people werent organised enough when she never put a foot outdoors to search for her child is pathetic at best, at best

How do you know that?

As the parents of a missing child, they had to present for the police that night, don't forget.


FRIDAY, MAY 4: No sleep, Gerry and I started looking through the streets around 06.00 as it was starting to get light. Nobody around. Why not? Desperate.
http://madeleinemythsexposed.pbworks.com/w/page/39077768/Rebuttal%20of%20%22Fact%22%2018

This would seem to be corroborated by a police officer found them out at 7am

He remembers that he saw the McCann couple at about 07.00 alone in the street next to the site where they were stationed.


http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/PAULO-NETO.htm

[Redblossom]

Yes carana we know kate mccann said she searched for an hour the next morning when light came, as she said for at least one hour

its  no good saying she didnt search because she had to be there with police when she herself said police left them alone and went that night


kate continually said it was so dark she waited forthe light to go out, well even in the dark she could have gone out calling, you know like dozens of locals did but she just sat indoors and prayed, very constructive