The Boris Bounce and all the Benefits of Brexit

[faithlilly]

I’ve no idea, if it was does that make the comment invalid?  I had the thought independently anyway, I just googled “Rick Young Ones and Nazis” and was amused to discover I wasn’t the only person who thought that way.

Of course you did sweetie....of course you did....btw why would you google your own idea ?

[Vertigo Swirl]

Of course you did sweetie....of course you did....btw why would you google your own idea ?

Why not?  Think about it.  How else would I have come across the link?  Do you think I googled “apposite insults for idiots who keep banging on about Nazis” and came across it?  No, you reminded me of Rick, I said so, and then googled Rick, Nazi, Young Ones, to find a suitable quote to illustrate my point.  That’s how I came across the article.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Faithlilly, you can protest all you want about sneering Boris and his imbeciles, the fact is he delivered on the result of the referendum and we are now moving forward.  It’s quite possible even likely that we are moving forward in the wrong direction but that is what the people voted for and that is what needed to happen.  What realistically was the alternative?  We’d still be tying ourselves up in knots about the whole issue under Corbyn.  What if he’d run another referendum and the majority for Leave increased by 2 percentage points.  What then?  Remember this man you admire so very much has been against the EU all his political life!  Why?  Why, if there is absolutely no merit in us leaving the EU would your most preferred PM ever be for it?

[Vertigo Swirl]

Incidentally, you asked for examples of Remain lies, I provided examples of Remain lies, you ignored them.  Do you now concede that there were lies on both side of the debate?  If not, why not?

[faithlilly]

Why not?  Think about it.  How else would I have come across the link?  Do you think I googled “apposite insults for idiots who keep banging on about Nazis” and came across it?  No, you reminded me of Rick, I said so, and then googled Rick, Nazi, Young Ones, to find a suitable quote to illustrate my point.  That’s how I came across the article.

You really are needing to get out more 

[faithlilly]

Faithlilly, you can protest all you want about sneering Boris and his imbeciles, the fact is he delivered on the result of the referendum and we are now moving forward.  It’s quite possible even likely that we are moving forward in the wrong direction but that is what the people voted for and that is what needed to happen.  What realistically was the alternative?  We’d still be tying ourselves up in knots about the whole issue under Corbyn.  What if he’d run another referendum and the majority for Leave increased by 2 percentage points.  What then?  Remember this man you admire so very much has been against the EU all his political life!  Why?  Why, if there is absolutely no merit in us leaving the EU would your most preferred PM ever be for it?

Why do you still not get that the Labour Party is a democracy and the second referendum issue was not Corbyn’s to make and that the same arguments you make for the leave vote to be honoured also apply to the Labour Party, albeit on a smaller scale.

When you are not trying to point score I can see that you, like me, is concerned about the direction Johnson is pulling the country in. Shouldn’t that be our focus rather than this ’what if’ you indulge in every time Corbyn’s name is mentioned ? The vote has been honoured, can we move on ? The EU appear to be willing to play very hard ball with Johnson, there is every chance that by November that there will be a social democrat in the Whitehouse who will certainly not be as open to buying our treasured institutions. I think we have bigger things to worry about that the ex Labour leader.

[Vertigo Swirl]

You really are needing to get out more 

I’ve been out all day, how about you?

[Vertigo Swirl]

Why do you still not get that the Labour Party is a democracy and the second referendum issue was not Corbyn’s to make and that the same arguments you make for the leave vote to be honoured also apply to the Labour Party, albeit on a smaller scale.

When you are not trying to point score I can see that you, like me, is concerned about the direction Johnson is pulling the country in. Shouldn’t that be our focus rather than this ’what if’ you indulge in every time Corbyn’s name is mentioned ? The vote has been honoured, can we move on ? The EU appear to be willing to play very hard ball with Johnson, there is every chance that by November that there will be a social democrat in the Whitehouse who will certainly not be as open to buying our treasured institutions. I think we have bigger things to worry about that the ex Labour leader.

Oh you deflected again.  What a surprise.  I’m very happy to move on, it’s what we all should have done years ago, and thanks to Boris we now can.  Had Labour won we’d still be in agonising deadlock.  Give thanks for small mercies!

[faithlilly]

Oh you deflected again.  What a surprise.  I’m very happy to move on, it’s what we all should have done years ago, and thanks to Boris we now can.  Had Labour won we’d still be in agonising deadlock.  Give thanks for small mercies!

And what’s the bet you’ll be here two years from now bemoaning the nation’s choice.

[Vertigo Swirl]

And what’s the bet you’ll be here two years from now bemoaning the nation’s choice.

I don’t think the nation made the right choice but they did make a choice which we now have to live with and make the best of.  What alternative did we have?

[faithlilly]

I don’t think the nation made the right choice but they did make a choice which we now have to live with and make the best of.  What alternative did we have?

What did I say about the British masochistic mindset ?

[Vertigo Swirl]

What did I say about the British masochistic mindset ?

I’ve no idea, what did you say about it?

[faithlilly]

I’ve no idea, what did you say about it?

We don’t expect any better and therefore vote for the same old, same old.

[Vertigo Swirl]

We don’t expect any better and therefore vote for the same old, same old.

Voting for Brexit is not voting for the same old same old.  And in my opinion it’s not about not expecting better, or being masochistic, it’s about being conservative with a small c, fiscally prudent, pride in country, dislike of those who would seek to undermine our way of life and values. 

[faithlilly]

Voting for Brexit is not voting for the same old same old.  And in my opinion it’s not about not expecting better, or being masochistic, it’s about being conservative with a small c, fiscally prudent, pride in country, dislike of those who would seek to undermine our way of life and values.

Undermine our way of life ? Life expectancy has fallen for the first time in a hundred years according to a report last week. There are 4 million children living in poverty. Of the British citizens  living in poverty over half are either disabled or there is a disabled member in the household. The number of uses of Trussell Trust food banks has increased over this period from 41,000 to 1.2 million since 2010....this does not include smaller food banks. In 2010 there were 168000 people on zero hours contracts, in 2019 it had risen to 896000. Since 2010 while employment has risen, those jobs are paid less and are less secure.

So forgive me if your description of the British public brings a hollow laugh to my throat.