Is The Tory Party Institutionally Racist....

[faithlilly]

They are not. We have a mixed close community in our village. We help each other and our extended families.

 We also raise money for assistance to those we see in out local area. Recently - fully furnished and redecorated a home for a woman and three children placed outside our village who fled domestic abuse. She and her children lived in a B & B  for 10 months! Boat people - all males  put up in hotels-food provided and mobile phones to call home. All now claiming asylum all costing millions in housing/food and legal aid.
 
No  'charity' for illegal immigrant people sorry, I will let you chose your preference to assist. We chose the abused woman and her children who were born here (not white).  She is now settled - got back to work and children at,local school.. There was a bit of a fight for the school place due to the demand by people not born here.

That is the crux of the matter Faith. Only so many houses /school places there are bound to be losers so who should chose who loses?

Where did you get the idea all boat people are males ?

https://www.lincolnshirelive.co.uk/news/local-news/migrants-land-lincolnshire-coast-border-2399307

So no charity for these little ones ?

[Miss Taken Identity]

Where did you get the idea all boat people are males ?

https://www.lincolnshirelive.co.uk/news/local-news/migrants-land-lincolnshire-coast-border-2399307

So no charity for these little ones ?

Faith I did not say all boat people are males- I know what you are trying to do- It won't work.

I gave an instance of a situation which happened.

 You do not even want to know about the little ones!It is too horrific to bring here and you would find an excuse to covet many of these people.

I will say again. If people want to come to this country to work and live ALL they have to do is seek out companies- apply for jobs- arrange their own housing and transport. Many people do this every year!

[Vertigo Swirl]

It’s another socialist dilemma.  We are all the same, we are all equal, mi casa es tu casa, to the point where they believe we must be obliged to open arms to every single person on the planet who wishes to live here, or be considered racists and fascists.  Is there another country anywhere in the world where such a policy exists?  What happens to our country and its inhabitants if we welcome in a million newcomers a year for the next ten years?

[faithlilly]

Faith I did not say all boat people are males- I know what you are trying to do- It won't work.

I gave an instance of a situation which happened.

 You do not even want to know about the little ones!It is too horrific to bring here and you would find an excuse to covet many of these people.

I will say again. If people want to come to this country to work and live ALL they have to do is seek out companies- apply for jobs- arrange their own housing and transport. Many people do this every year!

So the women and children should be helped ? Surely that’s the humane thing to do ?

[faithlilly]

It’s another socialist dilemma.  We are all the same, we are all equal, mi casa es tu casa, to the point where they believe we must be obliged to open arms to every single person on the planet who wishes to live here, or be considered racists and fascists.  Is there another country anywhere in the world where such a policy exists?  What happens to our country and its inhabitants if we welcome in a million newcomers a year for the next ten years?

The same old rightwing arguments.

[Miss Taken Identity]

So the women and children should be helped ? Surely that’s the humane thing to do ?

I really don't know what cotton, poppy, fluffy, version of reality you hail from.

Your child sees a child drowning in the sea- they jump in to rescue them- but the other child is pushing to get nearer to the shore- they are now both drowning

You have one lifebelt. two people are drowning one is your child the other is another persons child . What do you do? who do you save?  You can't jump in because you can't swim and no one else around...

it makes you think- hang on if only they asked if they could come ashore we would go and greet them.

There isn't enough to go around, and your socialist model of taxing the rich just doesn't cut it for the majority. Something you have to live with.


And you couldn't handle the truth about what is actually happening with many illegal immigrants- especially children!

[Vertigo Swirl]

I really don't know what cotton, poppy, fluffy, version of reality you hail from.

Your child sees a child drowning in the sea- they jump in to rescue them- but the other child is pushing to get nearer to the shore- they are now both drowning

You have one lifebelt. two people are drowning one is your child the other is another persons child . What do you do? who do you save?  You can't jump in because you can't swim and no one else around...

it makes you think- hang on if only they asked if they could come ashore we would go and greet them.

There isn't enough to go around, and your socialist model of taxing the rich just doesn't cut it for the majority. Something you have to live with.


And you couldn't handle the truth about what is actually happening with many illegal immigrants- especially children!

Obviously as a good socialist you would save the other person’s child and blame the Tories for the death of your own child for only providing one lifebelt.

[Miss Taken Identity]

Obviously as a good socialist you would save the other person’s child and blame the Tories for the death of your own child for only providing one lifebelt.

Oh God I loath to agree with you on this.

But this has been evidence all over Europe. Look at the situation in Greece- shocking!

 I have also given evidence of 'illegal immigrant- getting asylum housing and clothes food and many homeless people here being told their isn't enough housing for them!

Not a Tory fault -  a socialist fault.

[faithlilly]

I really don't know what cotton, poppy, fluffy, version of reality you hail from.

Your child sees a child drowning in the sea- they jump in to rescue them- but the other child is pushing to get nearer to the shore- they are now both drowning

You have one lifebelt. two people are drowning one is your child the other is another persons child . What do you do? who do you save?  You can't jump in because you can't swim and no one else around...

it makes you think- hang on if only they asked if they could come ashore we would go and greet them.

There isn't enough to go around, and your socialist model of taxing the rich just doesn't cut it for the majority. Something you have to live with.


And you couldn't handle the truth about what is actually happening with many illegal immigrants- especially children!

There is absolutely enough to go around...a capitalist society just doesn’t distribute that plenty fairly.

As to the drowning scenario, a good socialist would have saved the other child because they’d have been sensible enough to teach their own child to swim.

[faithlilly]

Oh God I loath to agree with you on this.

But this has been evidence all over Europe. Look at the situation in Greece- shocking!

 I have also given evidence of 'illegal immigrant- getting asylum housing and clothes food and many homeless people here being told their isn't enough housing for them!

Not a Tory fault -  a socialist fault.

Explain that while we have had a capitalist government for the last 10 years it’s a ‘socialist fault’ ( can’t wait for this ).

What is the evidence of illegal immigrants getting housing that you have been given.....and a copy of the Sun doesn’t count.

[Miss Taken Identity]

Explain that while we have had a capitalist government for the last 10 years it’s a ‘socialist fault’ ( can’t wait for this ).

What is the evidence of illegal immigrants getting housing that you have been given.....and a copy of the Sun doesn’t count.

The councils control the housing- the mass immigration was a socialist UK/EU POLICY.

I own my own property- It doesn't affect me personally.

I have already supplied you with evidence. You must have been sleeping when it was highlighted that key workers in London could not get housing a few years  back , and yet at the same time  We see with our own eyes many parts of London are non white-non UK born areas.

I won't convince you  and you won't convince me, my claims are backed up- hence Brexit and a TORY Government with HUGE majority. Thanks to labour and EU cr@p over the years.

At one point the BNP were getting a lot of votes and that was a concern for many ,especially me!

[faithlilly]

The councils control the housing- the mass immigration was a socialist UK/EU POLICY.

I own my own property- It doesn't affect me personally.

I have already supplied you with evidence. You must have been sleeping when it was highlighted that key workers in London could not get housing a few years  back , and yet at the same time  We see with our own eyes many parts of London are non white-non UK born areas.

I won't convince you  and you won't convince me, my claims are backed up- hence Brexit and a TORY Government with HUGE majority. Thanks to labour and EU cr@p over the years.

At one point the BNP were getting a lot of votes and that was a concern for many ,especially me!

A socialist U.K./EU policy ? How so ? Are to talking freedom of movement?

Not sure why we needed to know that you own your own house...TMI.

Key workers can’t get housing in many parts of the south because successive Labour and Conservative governments haven’t reinvested the money made from selling council homes back into council stock but hey immigrants are a convenient whipping boy.

The problem is that you don't know your history. Britain never was a friendly place for immigrants and the hostile environment we see now is certainly nothing new.  From Oswald Mosley in the 30s to ‘no blacks, no dogs, no Irish signs in rental accommodation more recently the truth is we have never been a particularly tolerant society.

[Miss Taken Identity]

A socialist U.K./EU policy ? How so ? Are to talking freedom of movement?

Not sure why we needed to know that you own your own house...TMI.

Key workers can’t get housing in many parts of the south because successive Labour and Conservative governments haven’t reinvested the money made from selling council homes back into council stock but hey immigrants are a convenient whipping boy.

The problem is that you don't know your history. Britain never was a friendly place for immigrants and the hostile environment we see now is certainly nothing new.  From Oswald Mosley in the 30s to ‘no blacks, no dogs, no Irish signs in rental accommodation more recently the truth is we have never been a particularly tolerant society.

"A socialist U.K./EU policy ? How so ? Are to talking freedom of movement?"

Open borders and multiculturalism= not working. When we knew it wasn't working we didn't stop to take stock- we just exasperate the situation.  And even now you and your lot are still walking about pretending you care about the homeless and poor!  You have shown your limitations.

"Not sure why we needed to know that you own your own house...TMI."

You don't. but you are trying to make this personal! as if I am only thinking about my own situation.


"What is the evidence of illegal immigrants getting housing that you have been given".   Please note illegal immigrants are now being called asylum seekers even when it has not been proved they are!!!

https://www.parliament.scot/S5_Equal_Opps/General%20Documents/AylumSeekerHousingProject.pdf


Many Syrian refugees have been given housing in good areas jumping the housing queue- due to the complaints about giving them bad housing. I have no crux with that apart from why are they special why not have nice houses for key workers who can't afford to buy! Why come all this way to the UK if fleeing terror?


"Key workers can’t get housing in many parts of the south because successive Labour and Conservative governments haven’t reinvested the money made from selling council homes back into council stock but hey immigrants are a convenient whipping boy."

Well it is good to see you understand the situation- immigrants are NOT being whipped- illegal immigrants are causing a bad situation dire . We do not have the infrastructure to accommodate the sheer numbers coming from all over the world.  You don't like it. But if you think over taxing the rich to give these people housing and food etc  then what will you do when they take their money with them and hop off somewhere else? Then  you can open your door they can sleep on your sofa and share your food.


"The problem is that you don't know your history. Britain never was a friendly place for immigrants and the hostile environment we see now is certainly nothing new.  From Oswald Mosley in the 30s to ‘no blacks, no dogs, no Irish signs in rental accommodation more recently the truth is we have never been a particularly tolerant society.
"

I have a history problem? So this is  personal. OK.

From Oswald Mosley in the 30s
Stalinism was creeping in to the UK. ying and yang and all that Jazz. The people of the UK never voted for him so what is your point? 

 Private renters could choose who THEY want as boarders
no blacks= racism and ignorant
 no dogs= who wants dog hairs to clean?
no Irish= The Irish were at 'war' with the UK. They were also 'neutral' cough during the second world war.
people just didn't trust them for that reason. 

and Some people don't want same sex couples boarding- so what, it is their property. Why should you get to tell people how to live their lives- none of your business really.


"we have never been a particularly tolerant society. "

I am fed up with these outrageous claims by a minority of bleeding hearts.

Tolerance goes both ways. Your ignorance of  what some minority groups get up to is astonishing, and I may say embarrassing.

So what, people are not tolerant of other peoples cultures. should we be? I think you will find if you really did want to see for yourself many intolerant minorities in the country  and many, if not all. are RACIST against white indigenous population. What we claim to be a majority!

[faithlilly]

"A socialist U.K./EU policy ? How so ? Are to talking freedom of movement?"

Open borders and multiculturalism= not working. When we knew it wasn't working we didn't stop to take stock- we just exasperate the situation.  And even now you and your lot are still walking about pretending you care about the homeless and poor!  You have shown your limitations.

"Not sure why we needed to know that you own your own house...TMI."

You don't. but you are trying to make this personal! as if I am only thinking about my own situation.


"What is the evidence of illegal immigrants getting housing that you have been given".   Please note illegal immigrants are now being called asylum seekers even when it has not been proved they are!!!

https://www.parliament.scot/S5_Equal_Opps/General%20Documents/AylumSeekerHousingProject.pdf


Many Syrian refugees have been given housing in good areas jumping the housing queue- due to the complaints about giving them bad housing. I have no crux with that apart from why are they special why not have nice houses for key workers who can't afford to buy! Why come all this way to the UK if fleeing terror?


"Key workers can’t get housing in many parts of the south because successive Labour and Conservative governments haven’t reinvested the money made from selling council homes back into council stock but hey immigrants are a convenient whipping boy."

Well it is good to see you understand the situation- immigrants are NOT being whipped- illegal immigrants are causing a bad situation dire . We do not have the infrastructure to accommodate the sheer numbers coming from all over the world.  You don't like it. But if you think over taxing the rich to give these people housing and food etc  then what will you do when they take their money with them and hop off somewhere else? Then  you can open your door they can sleep on your sofa and share your food.


"The problem is that you don't know your history. Britain never was a friendly place for immigrants and the hostile environment we see now is certainly nothing new.  From Oswald Mosley in the 30s to ‘no blacks, no dogs, no Irish signs in rental accommodation more recently the truth is we have never been a particularly tolerant society.
"

I have a history problem? So this is  personal. OK.

From Oswald Mosley in the 30s
Stalinism was creeping in to the UK. ying and yang and all that Jazz. The people of the UK never voted for him so what is your point? 

 Private renters could choose who THEY want as boarders
no blacks= racism and ignorant
 no dogs= who wants dog hairs to clean?
no Irish= The Irish were at 'war' with the UK. They were also 'neutral' cough during the second world war.
people just didn't trust them for that reason. 

and Some people don't want same sex couples boarding- so what, it is their property. Why should you get to tell people how to live their lives- none of your business really.


"we have never been a particularly tolerant society. "

I am fed up with these outrageous claims by a minority of bleeding hearts.

Tolerance goes both ways. Your ignorance of  what some minority groups get up to is astonishing, and I may say embarrassing.

So what, people are not tolerant of other peoples cultures. should we be? I think you will find if you really did want to see for yourself many intolerant minorities in the country  and many, if not all. are RACIST against white indigenous population. What we claim to be a majority!

Tell me MTI, what’s your job ?

[Vertigo Swirl]

If this country is so appalling, so intolerant and so racist it really makes one wonder why the immigrants to the west don’t just stop in one of the lovely cuddly welcoming socialist countries of Europe.