Corona Virus; Tips and info

[Eleanor]

COVID19 UPDATE.

Seems excellent advice.

THIS IS VITAL PROTECTION ADVICE.

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There is no Stay Safe.  You can only do as you are told.

I stay At Home.  My son has to work.  I hope that he doesn't give this Virus to me.

There is no Fail Safe with this one.  Some of us will live, and some of us will die.  And No. I am not hysterical about this.

I will die, or not, as the case may be.

But this is the closest I have ever come to dying.

Okay.  Not having it.

Stay safe everyone & best wishes to all.

Roy & Linda

[Carana]

Ears, Nose and Throat.

Where did you get ears from?

[Robittybob1]

My understanding is that that it's the alcohol that is the active agent. The H202 is to kill any bacteria that may be present. The glycerol is to make it less harsh for the hands. And the water to increase the flashpoint.

Do what you like, I'll stick to the WHO formula.

Yes use that WHO stuff on your hands but you aren't going to put that WHO stuff up your nose, are you!   

[Carana]

This seems to be excellent advice.

COVID19 UPDATE.

THIS IS VITAL PROTECTION ADVICE.

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https://t.co/wjU3N3FzFq

Stay safe everyone & best wishes to all.

Roy & Linda

Thanks. It's been doing the rounds for a while. Seems to be sound advice, although the attributed original source seems to vary.

I can't find any context to this: is it for someone living with someone who already has reduced immunity? Or just for the general public?

If people out partying / picnicking / meeting up in groups could just accept to do so via social media instead for a while... Until the general public takes this seriously (and it can take time to get people used to the idea that - for a while) life is simply not going to be how we've known it. And don't think that this just applies to your older relatives or friends.

[Eleanor]

Where did you get ears from?

You mean that you didn't know that Ears. Nose and Throat are connected?

[Carana]

Yes use that WHO stuff on your hands but you aren't going to put that WHO stuff up your nose, are you!

I haven't read anything reliable about squirting anything in any orifice.

What I have read is to keep a safe distance from others (opinions vary from 1m - 2 m); wash your hands (or disinfect them otherwise), think about what you have touched that could transfer to your home, and DON'T touch your eyes, nose or mouth unless you have sterilised your hands. And that's tough.

Become more conscious of WASHING (properly) before. you touch your face - itchy nose, rubbing an eye, handling food...

Clean around you:

- steering-wheel if you drive
- anything you may have touched while outside (door handles, handrails, lift buttons, taps, cash, cash machines, in-store debit card purchases... Think about everything you would normally touch in a normal day. If can't wash your hands with soap (as most of us can't when out), then alcohol-based gel is a substitute.

I'm trying to drum this into others, but I've noticed that I haven't integrated some things that I should do, either.

I'll make a list of a few things that I should have done, but only thought about later, in case it rings bells with others.

It's a bit like scams, we all know about some and tend to think that others were mugs... until a new scam comes along and we get taken in. Then all we can do is to warn others.

[Robittybob1]

I haven't read anything reliable about squirting anything in any orifice.

What I have read is to keep a safe distance from others (opinions vary from 1m - 2 m); wash your hands (or disinfect them otherwise), think about what you have touched that could transfer to your home, and DON'T touch your eyes, nose or mouth unless you have sterilised your hands. And that's tough.

Become more conscious of WASHING (properly) before. you touch your face - itchy nose, rubbing an eye, handling food...

Clean around you:

- steering-wheel if you drive
- anything you may have touched while outside (door handles, handrails, lift buttons, taps, cash, cash machines, in-store debit card purchases... Think about everything you would normally touch in a normal day. If can't wash your hands with soap (as most of us can't when out), then alcohol-based gel is a substitute.

I'm trying to drum this into others, but I've noticed that I haven't integrated some things that I should do, either.

I'll make a list of a few things that I should have done, but only thought about later, in case it rings bells with others.

It's a bit like scams, we all know about some and tend to think that others were mugs... until a new scam comes along and we get taken in. Then all we can do is to warn others.

Look this is why I'm telling you about it.  No one has used an intranasal peroxide spray before (even though plenty have used a peroxide nasal flush to treat sinus infections).  It is new and I thought of it and I'm trying it out and so far it has improved my breathing at night.  My nasal passages are clearer than they have been for years. 

IMO Having a layer of peroxide on the nasal surfaces will help to deal with any virus that lands on it. 

It isn't doing any harm.  I'm hoping someone else tries it out.   OK don't forget about the hand washing and not putting your fingers in your mouth, social distancing, and self-isolation in mild cases. 

[Mr Gray]

as I posted on another thread:

"What I have been trying is using a 0.5% Hydrogen Peroxide solution intranasally at least 2 pumps per nostril.   There hasn't been any burning or ill effects from this strength.

0.5% is a 1/6 strength of the commonly retailed 3% solution.  I have tried hourly sprays or 4 sprays before and after going out into the community.

I can wash my hands and using this I can wash my nasal passages.   Best of luck."

Does anyone have any comments to make about this?   My son tried a 1% spray and found it slightly burning.  So please don't use full strength (3%) or if you do be careful.

do you know what the half life is of H2O2 afaiaa its quite unstable...we use 6% to whiten teeth.

carbamine peroxide may be more stable and is a third of the strength of hydrogen peroxide. Problem is its not protecting eyes or mouth which are other portals of virus entry

[Eleanor]

Look this is why I'm telling you about it.  No one has used an intranasal peroxide spray before (even though plenty have used a peroxide nasal flush to treat sinus infections).  It is new and I thought of it and I'm trying it out and so far it has improved my breathing at night.  My nasal passages are clearer than they have been for years. 

IMO Having a layer of peroxide on the nasal surfaces will help to deal with any virus that lands on it. 

It isn't doing any harm.  I'm hoping someone else tries it out.   OK don't forget about the hand washing and not putting your fingers in your mouth, social distancing, and self-isolation in mild cases.

Try not to worry about it Rob.  Most of my like  are half daft.  And the likes of me don't die.

[Carana]

Look this is why I'm telling you about it.  No one has used an intranasal peroxide spray before (even though plenty have used a peroxide nasal flush to treat sinus infections).  It is new and I thought of it and I'm trying it out and so far it has improved my breathing at night.  My nasal passages are clearer than they have been for years. 

IMO Having a layer of peroxide on the nasal surfaces will help to deal with any virus that lands on it. 

It isn't doing any harm.  I'm hoping someone else tries it out.   OK don't forget about the hand washing and not putting your fingers in your mouth, social distancing, and self-isolation in mild cases.

OK. I'm just trying to share info from the WHO (World Health Organization) and other sources that seem well-informed.

If you find that cleansing your nostrils with... whatever, is effective for you, no probs.

Not sure how that would work to combat this particular virus, however.

[Robittybob1]

do you know what the half life is of H2O2 afaiaa its quite unstable...we use 6% to whiten teeth.

carbamine peroxide may be more stable and is a third of the strength of hydrogen peroxide. Problem is its not protecting eyes or mouth which are other portals of virus entry

I really don't know, but from my point of view in a closed container, it should not deteriorate.

[Robittybob1]

OK. I'm just trying to share info from the WHO (World Health Organization) and other sources that seem well-informed.

If you find that cleansing your nostrils with... whatever, is effective for you, no probs.

Not sure how that would work to combat this particular virus, however.

I'd love to know too.  Obviously, if there was enough interest in it we could run a trial, 1000 using it and 1000 not using it (blind test).  That would be interesting, wouldn't it?

[Carana]

I've heard of some highly dangerous "tips" doing the rounds. Not sure I even want to mention them in case one of you (or any casual reader) decides it's "worth a try".

In the meantime, scrub your hands, and don't touch your face until you have.

No getting hair out of your eyes,
no rubbing them,
no scratching an itchy nose, and
no popping anything in your mouth (including ciggies) if you haven't just cleaned your hands. 

[Robittybob1]

I've heard of some highly dangerous "tips" doing the rounds. Not sure I even want to mention them in case one of you (or any casual reader) decides it's "worth a try".

In the meantime, scrub your hands, and don't touch your face until you have.

No getting hair out of your eyes,
no rubbing them,
no scratching an itchy nose, and
no popping anything in your mouth (including ciggies) if you haven't just cleaned your hands.

I'm always having my hands near my mouth.  I'm being more aware of it.  Hope I can change my behaviour in time.

[Mr Gray]

I really don't know, but from my point of view in a closed container, it should not deteriorate.

but once you sprayot up ypur nose it starts to deteriorate