Jeremy Bamber’s Proven Lies

[Holly Goodhead]

No one has referred to anyone else on here as a liar.

The word liar has been used and I want to preempt it going further end of.

[Caroline]

So if I point out what a witness said you translate that as meaning I believe what the witness said?

You used it as evidence that something happened, it you don't believe it, then you don't believe the call took place therefore Bamber lied and .......

[Caroline]

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=11313.msg580747#msg580747

Only half read the post 

[Vertigo Swirl]

The word liar has been used and I want to preempt it going further end of.

Is it not acceptable to refer to Jeremy as a liar now either?

[clockend]

Not true.  The only 'expert' I disregard is Malcolm Fletcher as there's no evidence he was appropriately qualified at trial to give the sort of evidence he did.  His evidence was extremely important to the prosecution too.

Hi Holly, I was wondering why you thought that Malcolm Fletcher was not qualified to give the evidence that he put forth

[Caroline]

Hi Holly, I was wondering why you thought that Malcolm Fletcher was not qualified to give the evidence that he put forth

Because he made a flippant comment about having a pellet gun as a boy.

[clockend]

Because he made a flippant comment about having a pellet gun as a boy.

Thanks Caroline, Wow surely there must be more evidence than that, I thought it was claimed by Jeremy supporters he had never fired a gun, seems i have loads to learn yet

[Caroline]

Thanks Caroline, Wow surely there must be more evidence than that, I thought it was claimed by Jeremy supporters he had never fired a gun, seems i have loads to learn yet

He was an expert witness so had to be qualified.

[clockend]

He was an expert witness so had to be qualified.

I agree with you Caroline, I just read if indeed  it is the same Malcolm Fletcher, ballistics expert,
giving evidence at another trial regarding a gun shot murder that was commited on the 8/8/2001

[ISpyWithMyEye]

I don't think he's on record as expressing any views.  I believe at trial he read out a letter from June to NB, SC and JB in the event of her death which was complimentary to all.

That letter wasn’t complimenting anyone, Holly

It was shown to the jury to demonstrate a part of June’s character

She said she loved them all, which is dreadfully heartbreaking knowing Jeremy later shot her dead

[ISpyWithMyEye]

You were referring to Brett Collins and I abbreviated to BC.

If you wish to assert something it is your responsibility to find the supporting evidence otherwise it's just your opinion.

There's no evidence the defence called JB's friends and family at trial.  Friends by way of Brett Collins, Michael Decker, Andrew and Karen Bishop, the then girlfriend,
Anji Greaves, former Girlfriend, Sue Ford, and extended family members the Howies.

For someone who constantly expresses opinions, most, indeed almost all, groundless opinions, it’s amusing how you state it’s one’s responsibility to post with supporting evidence — when you yourself have NO evidence whatsoever that Jeremy Bamber could possibly be innocent!

Ive not seen ONE piece of evidence, or even SUGGESTION, that JB isn’t guilty. Not ONE!

And that’s because there isn’t any.

[ISpyWithMyEye]

I attach very liitle weight to lay witnesses whether they be defence of prosecution.

I prefer to rely on the experts.  When I say experts I look for high level qualifications, experience, unblemished records and membership of professional bodies.

And whom of these high level experts has told you Jeremy is innocent?😌

[Caroline]

I agree with you Caroline, I just read if indeed  it is the same Malcolm Fletcher, ballistics expert,
giving evidence at another trial regarding a gun shot murder that was commited on the 8/8/2001

This one? http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/2225827.stm - Very similar, murder or suicide?

Malcolm Fletcher's qualifications include BSc, FFSSoc, FSSoc Dip

[ISpyWithMyEye]

You’re using the proven murderer’s words as evidence that Nevill phoned the proven murderer.  Hmm, ok, clearly you don’t believe a word of it!

I think G-Unit is justifiably feeling embarrassed that she said the witness who “proved” Nevill rang Jeremy was Jeremy himself!🤣

[G-Unit]

You’re using the proven murderer’s words as evidence that Nevill phoned the proven murderer.  Hmm, ok, clearly you don’t believe a word of it!

Another member said there was no evidence that Nevill used the phone. I pointed out that a witness testified that Nevill did use the phone. Evidence is evidence, whether it's believed or not.