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Offline Holly Goodhead

Re: Why did Sheila have an INCREASED amount of Haloperidol in her system?
« Reply #210 on: April 15, 2020, 03:12:54 PM »
He also seems to attribute the injuries to the eyes and nose as coming from one blow.
Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?

Offline Caroline

Re: Why did Sheila have an INCREASED amount of Haloperidol in her system?
« Reply #211 on: April 15, 2020, 03:18:02 PM »
He also seems to attribute the injuries to the eyes and nose as coming from one blow.

Sucker punch!

Offline Brietta

Re: Why did Sheila have an INCREASED amount of Haloperidol in her system?
« Reply #212 on: April 15, 2020, 03:23:05 PM »
He was asked to provide a breakdown of NB's wounds both gsw's and non-gsw's. The statement I uploaded covers his response for the non-gsw nose injury.

I thought you said previously NB sustained a broken nose?  I don't believe there's any evidence NB''s nose was broken?

Of course trauma from a blunt object covers numerous possibilities but given it is known all the other injuries were also caused by a blunt object and the butt of the rifle was broken and contained blood smears I think it unlikely any fists were involved.

42. The examination of Nevill Bamber's body also revealed black eyes and a broken nose, linear bruising to the cheeks, lacerations to the head, linear type bruising to the right forearm, bruising to the left wrist and forearm and three circular burn type marks to the back. The linear marks were consistent with Mr Bamber having been struck with a long blunt object, possibly a gun.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Why did Sheila have an INCREASED amount of Haloperidol in her system?
« Reply #213 on: April 15, 2020, 05:27:40 PM »
So was Nevill incapacitated while Sheila was reloading the gun or not?
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Caroline

Re: Why did Sheila have an INCREASED amount of Haloperidol in her system?
« Reply #214 on: April 15, 2020, 05:37:34 PM »
So was Nevill incapacitated while Sheila was reloading the gun or not?

I think if he had been, she wouldn't have felt the need to then shoot him 4 more times in the head.

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Why did Sheila have an INCREASED amount of Haloperidol in her system?
« Reply #215 on: April 15, 2020, 07:01:38 PM »
I think if he had been, she wouldn't have felt the need to then shoot him 4 more times in the head.
Which begs the question how did she hold him off while she was re-loading?
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline G-Unit

Re: Why did Sheila have an INCREASED amount of Haloperidol in her system?
« Reply #216 on: April 15, 2020, 07:26:48 PM »
Then look a little closer! In his court testimony he agreed that injuries (bruising and lacerations) to the face could have been caused from a 'heavy' blow from a fist (or blunt object). June had a black eye and what looked like finger marks around her neck so someone also got close enough to her to make a physical assault. Jeremy claimed the black eye was pre-murders but no one other than him mentioned seeing it.

He doesn't say he believed that Nevill was punched in the face though does he?
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Offline APRIL

Re: Why did Sheila have an INCREASED amount of Haloperidol in her system?
« Reply #217 on: April 15, 2020, 07:35:14 PM »
He doesn't say he believed that Nevill was punched in the face though does he?


How else would you define " injuries to the face could have been caused by a heavy blow from a fist (or a blunt object)"?

Offline Caroline

Re: Why did Sheila have an INCREASED amount of Haloperidol in her system?
« Reply #218 on: April 15, 2020, 07:37:01 PM »
He doesn't say he believed that Nevill was punched in the face though does he?

He said he believes that he was hit with a blunt object that could be a first or sum'n - what so you think he was hit with? Does he have to state the actual words before you can apply it? AE hasn't actually said she called Jeremy a cuckoo but you latched onto that quick enough. It's clear you don't see any bad in Jeremy and I doubt you will. No matter what evidence is posted you're set on deny mode.

Offline Caroline

Re: Why did Sheila have an INCREASED amount of Haloperidol in her system?
« Reply #219 on: April 15, 2020, 07:38:20 PM »

How else would you define " injuries to the face could have been caused by a heavy blow from a fist (or a blunt object)"?

Well, because he didn't say "I believe and ONLY believe that this man was punched in the face", it leaves the excuse finders to cast their deny net.

Offline Holly Goodhead

Re: Why did Sheila have an INCREASED amount of Haloperidol in her system?
« Reply #220 on: April 15, 2020, 08:37:07 PM »
Which begs the question how did she hold him off while she was re-loading?

He was shot 4 x's upstairs before sustaining the non gsw's and 4 gsw's to his head downstairs.  The 4 gsw's sustained upstairs were very serious and had the downstairs gsw's not supervened the upstairs ones would have killed him.  He also lost complete use of his left arm from a gsw upstairs.

Make of it what you will.  There are two schools of thought:  one think NB was too badly injured upstairs to enter into a 'violent struggle' in the kitchen.  The other thinks there was a 'violent struggle' to the extent SC could not have overpowered NB.
Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?

Offline Holly Goodhead

Re: Why did Sheila have an INCREASED amount of Haloperidol in her system?
« Reply #221 on: April 15, 2020, 08:45:19 PM »
He said he believes that he was hit with a blunt object that could be a first or sum'n - what so you think he was hit with? Does he have to state the actual words before you can apply it? AE hasn't actually said she called Jeremy a cuckoo but you latched onto that quick enough. It's clear you don't see any bad in Jeremy and I doubt you will. No matter what evidence is posted you're set on deny mode.

You only posted a snippet of the trial testimony.  Here's the full transcript about this aspect:
Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Why did Sheila have an INCREASED amount of Haloperidol in her system?
« Reply #222 on: April 15, 2020, 08:48:41 PM »
He was shot 4 x's upstairs before sustaining the non gsw's and 4 gsw's to his head downstairs.  The 4 gsw's sustained upstairs were very serious and had the downstairs gsw's not supervened the upstairs ones would have killed him.  He also lost complete use of his left arm from a gsw upstairs.

Make of it what you will.  There are two schools of thought:  one think NB was too badly injured upstairs to enter into a 'violent struggle' in the kitchen.  The other thinks there was a 'violent struggle' to the extent SC could not have overpowered NB.
Your school of thought is that he wasn’t badly beaten downstairs, the signs of a struggle were caused by someone else and Nevill just sat there waiting for Sheila to reload and shoot him?
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Holly Goodhead

Re: Why did Sheila have an INCREASED amount of Haloperidol in her system?
« Reply #223 on: April 15, 2020, 09:02:35 PM »
You only posted a snippet of the trial testimony.  Here's the full transcript about this aspect:

I don't know what prosecuting counsel was angling at as he talks about a fist and then states:

Given it was a blow from the instrument...

So seems to be saying it was from a blunt instrument.

Regardless Dr Vanezis said in his stat post trial he did not see anything with NB's injuries that a woman of SC's build could not inflict:

Without knowing the sequence of injuries re shot prior to other wounds causing injury to arm, I did not find it surprising that a woman of that build, in possession of a weapon possibly in a deranged state, could cause the injuries present.
Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?

Offline Holly Goodhead

Re: Why did Sheila have an INCREASED amount of Haloperidol in her system?
« Reply #224 on: April 15, 2020, 09:06:28 PM »
Your school of thought is that he wasn’t badly beaten downstairs, the signs of a struggle were caused by someone else and Nevill just sat there waiting for Sheila to reload and shoot him?

The pathologist said he thought the downstairs gsw's were sustained when NB had stopped moving.

I think the wounds he sustained upstairs were so serious he was virtually dead by the time he reached the kitchen.
Just my opinion of course but Jeremy Bamber is innocent and a couple from UK, unknown to T9, abducted Madeleine McCann - motive unknown.  Was J J murdered as a result of identifying as a goth?