Reconstruction of the WHF Murders

[Vertigo Swirl]

Holly, when you do your reconstruction where will Sheila fit into it?  Will you do a reconstruction that does not have either Sheila or Jeremy id’ed as the killer?  How will your reconstruction demonstrate that JB could not have committed the crimes in the way he was adjudged to have done so?

[Caroline]

Holly, when you do your reconstruction where will Sheila fit into it?  Will you do a reconstruction that does not have either Sheila or Jeremy id’ed as the killer?  How will your reconstruction demonstrate that JB could not have committed the crimes in the way he was adjudged to have done so?

It won't. I have asked this question continuously - and never had an answer. If it doesn't identify a killer, the CCRC will no way sanction such frivolity.

[Vertigo Swirl]

It won't. I have asked this question continuously - and never had an answer. If it doesn't identify a killer, the CCRC will no way sanction such frivolity.

It seems that I keep on asking questions that Holly isn’t interested in answering.  I happen to think this is a valid one and am looking forward to an honest reply from her shortly.

[Caroline]

It seems that I keep on asking questions that Holly isn’t interested in answering.  I happen to think this is a valid one and am looking forward to an honest reply from her shortly.

Well, I have been asking it for a couple of years and still have no response. The farthest I have gotten to an answer is that it might show some support for Nevill having had an opportunity to have made the phone call. Not that he did you understand, just that he might have. It's something that wouldn't hold up to scrutiny because there are no definites.  Prove the call, put the gun in Sheila's hand and you might get somewhere - being unable to prove either leaves us right where we are now and that's no enough for. an appeal.

[Holly Goodhead]

It seems that I keep on asking questions that Holly isn’t interested in answering.  I happen to think this is a valid one and am looking forward to an honest reply from her shortly.

What you seem to overlook is that I'm the only one here who's happy to hang her hat on JB's innocence therfore I have a lot of posts to answer!

Why not just pm the links? 

[Caroline]

What you seem to overlook is that I'm the only one here who's happy to hang her hat on JB's innocence therfore I have a lot of posts to answer!

Why not just pm the links?

There are some points you do. keep ignoring, like your notion of a recon, doesn't show who the killer was.

[Holly Goodhead]

Holly, when you do your reconstruction where will Sheila fit into it?  Will you do a reconstruction that does not have either Sheila or Jeremy id’ed as the killer?  How will your reconstruction demonstrate that JB could not have committed the crimes in the way he was adjudged to have done so?

As I've said previously a reconstruction will show NB's exact position in the farmhouse when he sustained the upstairs gsw's and the location of the perp.  It will not reveal JB or SC.

The contentious issue is whether NB sustained his upstairs gsw's in the bedroom as the prosecution claimed or whether he sustained them on the landing stairs and main staircase with the perp already in the bedroom firing at June and then turning to inflict the gsw's to NB who just arrived on the landing.

[Holly Goodhead]

There are some points you do. keep ignoring, like your notion of a recon, doesn't show who the killer was.

I don't think I've ever suggested it would?

A reconstruction is only capable of determining NB's precise location in the farmhouse when he sustained the upstairs gsw's and the precise location of the perp when he/she inflicted them. 

If the reconstruction shows NB sustained his upstairs gsw's in the bedroom this supports the prosecution case.

If the reconstructiin shows NB sustained his upstairs gsw's on the landing stairs and the main staircase this supports the defence case.

[Caroline]

I don't think I've ever suggested it would?

A reconstruction is only capable of determining NB's precise location in the farmhouse when he sustained the upstairs gsw's and the precise location of the perp when he/she inflicted them. 

If the reconstruction shows NB sustained his upstairs gsw's in the bedroom this supports the prosecution case.

If the reconstructiin shows NB sustained his upstairs gsw's on the landing stairs and the main staircase this supports the defence case.

It's not even capable of that with 100% accuracy and it certainly does NOT support a phone call.

[Vertigo Swirl]

As I've said previously a reconstruction will show NB's exact position in the farmhouse when he sustained the upstairs gsw's and the location of the perp.  It will not reveal JB or SC.

The contentious issue is whether NB sustained his upstairs gsw's in the bedroom as the prosecution claimed or whether he sustained them on the landing stairs and main staircase with the perp already in the bedroom firing at June and then turning to inflict the gsw's to NB who just arrived on the landing.

And what will that prove in turn?

[Vertigo Swirl]

I don't think I've ever suggested it would?

A reconstruction is only capable of determining NB's precise location in the farmhouse when he sustained the upstairs gsw's and the precise location of the perp when he/she inflicted them. 

If the reconstruction shows NB sustained his upstairs gsw's in the bedroom this supports the prosecution case.

If the reconstructiin shows NB sustained his upstairs gsw's on the landing stairs and the main staircase this supports the defence case.

How?  Furthermore it is something that cannot be proven by a recon IMO.

[Caroline]

How?  Furthermore it is something that cannot be proven by a recon IMO.

The word precise is problematic. 

[Vertigo Swirl]

Holly, what obstacles stand in your way from carrying out this reconstruction and what are you doing to try and overcome them?

[Caroline]

Holly, what obstacles stand in your way from carrying out this reconstruction and what are you doing to try and overcome them?

I can think of a couple - it's not strong enough for the CCRC to sanction and AE would be out with the pitchforks should anyone turn up with such a suggestion. 

[Vertigo Swirl]

I can think of a couple - it's not strong enough for the CCRC to sanction and AE would be out with the pitchforks should anyone turn up with such a suggestion. 

It could surely be done as a computer simulation?