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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Re-evaluation of the blood and silencer evidence
« Reply #390 on: May 16, 2020, 01:57:26 PM »
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Offline The General

Re: Re-evaluation of the blood and silencer evidence
« Reply #391 on: May 16, 2020, 02:11:35 PM »
perfectly plain parlance.
Pedant.
PEDANT, THE WORD WAS PEDANTIC!

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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Re-evaluation of the blood and silencer evidence
« Reply #392 on: May 16, 2020, 02:27:51 PM »
Pedant.
PEDANT, THE WORD WAS PEDANTIC!

WOO
No.
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Offline Caroline

Re: Re-evaluation of the blood and silencer evidence
« Reply #393 on: May 16, 2020, 02:42:19 PM »
Paraffin?

The word is 'patronising' but I'm thinking of another P word now!  @)(++(*


Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Re-evaluation of the blood and silencer evidence
« Reply #394 on: May 16, 2020, 03:25:16 PM »
The word is 'patronising' but I'm thinking of another P word now!  @)(++(*
@)(++(* great minds.
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Re-evaluation of the blood and silencer evidence
« Reply #395 on: May 16, 2020, 03:26:56 PM »
I have never disputed what the court actually said, and kindly stop patronising me.  If the DNA found in the silencer resembled Sheila's but was not Sheila's then who of her blood relatives handled the silencer or contaminated it, in your view?

There was a mixture; probably from three  people. Two females and one male. I have no idea who they were or where the DNA came from. The scientists, however, agreed that June Bamber's DNA was there. She was unrelated to Sheila Caffell, of course.
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Offline The General

Re: Re-evaluation of the blood and silencer evidence
« Reply #396 on: May 16, 2020, 03:32:40 PM »
@)(++(* great minds.
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Offline puglove

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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Re-evaluation of the blood and silencer evidence
« Reply #398 on: May 16, 2020, 05:03:50 PM »
There was a mixture; probably from three  people. Two females and one male. I have no idea who they were or where the DNA came from. The scientists, however, agreed that June Bamber's DNA was there. She was unrelated to Sheila Caffell, of course.
Why did they conclude that one of the people may have been Sheila?  For no other reason than it was female DNA?
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Re-evaluation of the blood and silencer evidence
« Reply #399 on: May 16, 2020, 06:04:14 PM »
Why did they conclude that one of the people may have been Sheila?  For no other reason than it was female DNA?

They found 17 out of 20 bands which they said was Sheila's. I don't know how they justified that conclusion, because they didn't have a full profile of her DNA. They had 50% of it from her mother, but none of her father's. There was a lot of speculation about contamination. They also, remember, said that of those 17 bands 13 could have matched by chance.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Re-evaluation of the blood and silencer evidence
« Reply #400 on: May 16, 2020, 06:06:59 PM »
They found 17 out of 20 bands which they said was Sheila's. I don't know how they justified that conclusion, because they didn't have a full profile of her DNA. They had 50% of it from her mother, but none of her father's. There was a lot of speculation about contamination. They also, remember, said that of those 17 bands 13 could have matched by chance.
So 4 bands could not have been matched by chance.  As there was no one else related to Sheila by blood in that farm house then that would suggest a strong likelihood it was hers. 
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Re-evaluation of the blood and silencer evidence
« Reply #401 on: May 16, 2020, 06:15:20 PM »
So 4 bands could not have been matched by chance.  As there was no one else related to Sheila by blood in that farm house then that would suggest a strong likelihood it was hers.

The four bands could have belonged to the unknown man.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Re-evaluation of the blood and silencer evidence
« Reply #402 on: May 16, 2020, 06:20:58 PM »
The four bands could have belonged to the unknown man.
Where does it say that?  You just wrote that 13 of the 17 bands could have matched by chance, are you now changing your mind and saying that 17 out of 17 could have matched by chance?
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Re-evaluation of the blood and silencer evidence
« Reply #403 on: May 16, 2020, 06:23:14 PM »
If it had similarities to Sheila's mother's DNA, but wasn't Sheila's DNA then whose was it?
There are markers that tell the sex of the donor.   Since they talk of Shiela and her mother I presume the sex was determined to be female. 
If they are looking for 20 markers and only match 17, IMO the sample is more likely to come from the mother rather than the daughter.
Had the biological mother of Shiela come on the scene somehow?
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Offline Caroline

Re: Re-evaluation of the blood and silencer evidence
« Reply #404 on: May 16, 2020, 07:18:54 PM »
There are markers that tell the sex of the donor.   Since they talk of Shiela and her mother I presume the sex was determined to be female. 
If they are looking for 20 markers and only match 17, IMO the sample is more likely to come from the mother rather than the daughter.
Had the biological mother of Shiela come on the scene somehow?

Nowhere near the scene, she was in Canada.