Re-evaluation of the blood and silencer evidence

[mrswah]

I remember something about milk teeth. Jeremy went to see Pam about the Jewellery and they had a discussion about who would get what and he said he wanted the teeth. Pam found them in a box. There was one of Jeremy's and one of Sheila's. Why would he want them?

Assuming he is guilty, I'd guess because they contain DNA, and could be used to incriminate him? 

[Holly Goodhead]

I'm sure they did but once again, as a bunch on amateur detectives, we don't have access to all of the case material and nor do  we have the  right to access it.

We have the trial testimony.  MF refers to 7 baffles. JH refers to 5 baffles.  Both are hesitant and unsure.  Neither make ref to notes, drawings or diagrams. 

[mrswah]

Yet Brancher has suggested Bamber and JM were ‘both as bad as one another’ ? 

I'd suggest he was a bad influence on her.

[Holly Goodhead]

What is it with you and qualifications? I know lots of people that are qualified on paper but I wouldn't trust them to load my dish washer!

It's about demonstrating competence and fit for purpose! 

[Caroline]

It's about demonstrating competence and fit for purpose!

And only you think he wasn't.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Look thru historic cases and forensic lit from 1 in a trillion.

What do you mean?

[ISpyWithMyEye]

I didn't ridicule Brian Elliot's qualifications I simply highlighted:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_and_Technology_Education_Council

Yes you did.

What right have YOU got to say that Forensic Scientist lacks experience?! That his only experience was having a pellet gun as a child...which is utter rubbish

Usually, when someone constantly knocks others, highlights their flaws, tries to humiliate/put them down — just as you’ve frequently done against Sheila where you’ve mentioned “she had stretch marks” ...yes, she did, she’d given birth to TWINS! Twin boys the man YOU have a warped obsession with who shot those little boys dead!!

You mentioned her scars beneath her breasts where she’d had implants — for no reason at all.

You tried to start a rumour implying Sheila massaged “older men”, which was a disgraceful lie!

Sheila had a BEAUTIFUL face — why have you never highlighted that, eh?

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[ISpyWithMyEye]

The Chinese trick box and wetsuit were JB's possessions and were not presented at trial.

June Bamber had a number of bibles at WHF.  The one found at soc was given the exhibit number DRH/44 and asfaik was destroyed with all the other exhibits.

Untrue imo.

[ISpyWithMyEye]

However upon closer examination it appears BTecs were first handed out in 1984 and yet Brian Elliot told the court at trial he had been a forensic scientist for 13 years 🤔

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_and_Technology_Education_Council

Help required.

He was indeed a Forensic Scientist for 13 years when he testified under oath at court.

DURING that time he took a FURTHER B.Tech course whilst working for the Metropolitan Forensics Team — which is perfectly normal and usual.

You’re strange

[ISpyWithMyEye]

Maybe you should ask Bamber, Mark Newby or his CT to provide copies of the paperwork related to all exhibits

These questions have still yet to be answered http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,514.msg9287.html#msg9287

“Mike, please could you clarify when JB or his legal team were advised that evidence, in particular blood samples, were going to be or had been destroyed, as happened in 1996.

Likewise, in 2002 the CCRC displayed a willingness to use their powers to examine the full circumstances surrounding the destruction of evidence in 1996. JB instructed Turner QC to decline this offer to investigate.  What reason has JB given for his decision?

“It appears JB rejected a golden opportunity to (possibly) have the EP discredited by the CCRC.
The CCRC would have borne the costs as well - not to be sneezed at.
Had EP been proved to be disingenuous on this matter, the Commission may have allowed 'generous discretion' in viewing related grounds for Appeal.

The silence on this leads to other conspiracy theories - that JB wanted blood samples destroyed fearing DNA developments since 1985... etc.

So I think the matter should be addressed.

Speaks volumes doesn’t it?

[ISpyWithMyEye]

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With all due respect there’s a difference between holding opposing views and telling outright lies, exaggerating, distorting, mocking and denigrating people.

No-one should do that.

It’s disgraceful!

[ISpyWithMyEye]

I'm not putting anyone down but if jurors are relying on experts to decide a person's fate in terms of removing liberty for the rest of their natural life then experts need to be appropriately qualified and there's no evidence they were.

Buck stops with HO.

Malcolm Fletcher WAS qualified

He had 13 years experience!

Besides, the judge told the jury they could convict Jeremy on Julie’s evidence alone....


And the reason his Liberty was taken away was because he’s an evil psychopathic mass murderer.

[ISpyWithMyEye]

I remember something about milk teeth. Jeremy went to see Pam about the Jewellery and they had a discussion about who would get what and he said he wanted the teeth. Pam found them in a box. There was one of Jeremy's and one of Sheila's. Why would he want them?

That’s REALLY weird!!

Why on earth would want Sheila’s milk tooth?!

Oh, let me guess....

[ISpyWithMyEye]

He was woefully under qualified venturing into areas that fall to a pathologist.

I suspect you would feel differently if you were about to undergo some serious surgery and found the surgeon was a master butcher.

You’re calling Professor Vanezis “woefully under qualified”?!



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[ISpyWithMyEye]

The one in a trillion statistic which was rubbished by Holly has been discussed on this forum before on this thread.  Frustratingly the programme it was mentioned in doesn’t appear to be online anymore
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=830.0

Thank you, VS

I have seen it in writing too, and do have it somewhere...I’ve literally thousands of screenshots/docs etc, but not in order, hence why I can’t grab them quickly. But I shall do soon....

I think it’s appalling how some people can denigrate and rubbish experts and victims because they have a sick twisted fantasy about a repulsive psychopath who blew the brains out of all his family: father, mother, sister and two little boys

WTH is WRONG with these seriously weird, warped people? No wonder they don’t put their mugshots up!