Why Would Sheila Have Used a Gun When She Didn’t Know How to Work One?

[Eleanor]

My point was that I've shot a .22 rifle without any training at all. If I can so can others.

Quite right.  They aren't difficult.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Quite right.  They aren't difficult.

G-Unit being handed a pre-loaded rifle at a funfair and being able to shoot at tin ducks by squeezing the trigger does not mean that a person unfamiliar with handling a rifle, loading its magazine and fixing it to the gun before turning it on members of their own family would find such a task quite as easy.

[G-Unit]

G-Unit being handed a pre-loaded rifle at a funfair and being able to shoot at tin ducks by squeezing the trigger does not mean that a person unfamiliar with handling a rifle, loading its magazine and fixing it to the gun before turning it on members of their own family would find such a task quite as easy.

Can you prove that the person being discussed was unable to carry out these tasks?

[Holly Goodhead]

Had the murders/suicide taken place in the US it would have been treated differently as gun ownership is so widespread.

Toddlers often pick up firearms and shoot themselves and others.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2017/09/29/american-toddlers-are-still-shooting-people-on-a-weekly-basis-this-year/

[Caroline]

My point was that I've shot a .22 rifle without any training at all. If I can so can others.

Were you having a psychotic attack at the time?

Did you have to attach the magazine and chamber the first shot without being told?

Anyone can fire one - that's not the issue.

[Caroline]

Can you prove that the person being discussed was unable to carry out these tasks?

Anything anyone posted would just be excused away - what's the point? There are some people who are genuinely on tje fence and are able to view the case from both sides. I haven't seen you do that and I don't believe there is anything anyone can say that will sway you from Bambers side and that's fair enough but it is helpful to know where people sit on the guilt innocense scale.

[Holly Goodhead]

https://youtu.be/JrPq6xao0dE

[Caroline]

https://youtu.be/JrPq6xao0dE

For starters that kid has been shown and instructed on how to use the rifle obviously!

Where's the psychosis? Where is the magazine and when did she chamber the first shot and moreover - how is this a novel exercise in a stressful moment? Again Holly, this isn't like for like!

[Caroline]

For starters that kid has been shown and instructed on how to use the rifle obviously!

Where's the psychosis? Where is the magazine and when did she chamber the first shot and moreover - how is this a novel exercise in a stressful moment? Again Holly, this isn't like for like!

Half the time her dad is guiding her hand! 

[Vertigo Swirl]

Can you prove that the person being discussed was unable to carry out these tasks?

I don’t need to, she didn’t do it.  How about you try and prove she did?  Over to you.

[Holly Goodhead]

Half the time her dad is guiding her hand! 

And you don't think NB would have done the same with SC?

[Vertigo Swirl]

And you don't think NB would have done the same with SC?

What?  While she’s shooting at him?!

[Holly Goodhead]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sylvia_Seegrist

[APRIL]

And you don't think NB would have done the same with SC?

Not if she wasn't interested.

[Caroline]

And you don't think NB would have done the same with SC?

Eh?