Author Topic: ASK; JEREMY BAMBER  (Read 27682 times)

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Offline Nicholas

Re: ASK; JEREMY BAMBER
« Reply #45 on: May 21, 2020, 08:13:22 PM »

However, before someone jumps up and down on me,  I take great interest in what you all have to say on here, as many of you have studied the case files, books etc.  I have not, admittedly.


No ones jumping up and down on you AA

I’ve not read any of the books on Bamber’s case

Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

Offline Aunt Agatha

Re: ASK; JEREMY BAMBER
« Reply #46 on: May 21, 2020, 08:18:26 PM »
He' never going to admit that.



But Caroline, you're jumping to conclusions already.

I've not heard back from him yet, I might not hear back from him at all!

But if he says yes to this, we ask him the question and he should be given the opportunity to answer it.

I've suggested this Q&A because unlike you, I do not feel Jeremy is a borne liar.

He has been characterised as a pathological liar, a thief, a murderer, manipulator, psychopath, narcissist... Ad infinitum.

I believe he is neither of those however he is not an angel or perfect in any way.  He has made mistakes, some big and some very big, but he has paid for them, dearly.

As far as I'm aware, there is nothing like this on any forum at the moment with a convicted killer - I think we should take full opportunity of this and allow it to grow organically, whilst we can.

Or he could just say no!

This is an opportunity for him and for us, to ask him directly, what happened and for him to reply in his own words.

I've told him I want no flannel, no self pity, no drama or fanciful replies... I want him to answer the question directly, in his own words, keeping it very simple and addressing the question, only.  It's within his best interest to be honest, and I absolutely believe, his answers will be his truth of what happened before, during and after the murders.

Offline Aunt Agatha

Re: ASK; JEREMY BAMBER
« Reply #47 on: May 21, 2020, 08:25:56 PM »
There was a wealth of information in the beginning AA

Maybe Bamber didn’t give you all the disclosure documents he had

For example, he would have had numerous witness statements

He’d have known about the torn up photo - who it was found by, when, where etc

How did Roger Wilkes and Claire Powell get all their information in order to write their books on the case


You're right to a degree, but the information I received had to come from Justice For All, not Jeremy during the beginning.

They did not have access to everything either.

Therefore, my knowledge from actual case papers was very limited.

I had the basics, yes, but I was not allowed everything.

Things have changed.
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Offline Nicholas

Re: ASK; JEREMY BAMBER
« Reply #48 on: May 21, 2020, 08:36:44 PM »

You're right to a degree, but the information I received had to come from Justice For All, not Jeremy during the beginning.


Bamber would have had copies of the documents relied on during his trial AA

What do you think his legal team had

Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

Offline Aunt Agatha

Re: ASK; JEREMY BAMBER
« Reply #49 on: May 21, 2020, 09:46:53 PM »
Bamber would have had copies of the documents relied on during his trial AA

What do you think his legal team had



You're failing to look at things from the early 90's. I didn't 'campaign' , how were we supposed to find other supporters etc.  No, I was a single supporter and confidant.  That's it!!

I was not his lawyers and I genuinely believed in the justice system then and that this terrible wrong would be righted.

So much so, I waited for a second appeal with him. The legal team did their job and I did what I could to be a support to Jeremy.

It's not complicated!

Offline Caroline

Re: ASK; JEREMY BAMBER
« Reply #50 on: May 21, 2020, 09:58:26 PM »


But Caroline, you're jumping to conclusions already.

I've not heard back from him yet, I might not hear back from him at all!

But if he says yes to this, we ask him the question and he should be given the opportunity to answer it.

I've suggested this Q&A because unlike you, I do not feel Jeremy is a borne liar.

He has been characterised as a pathological liar, a thief, a murderer, manipulator, psychopath, narcissist... Ad infinitum.

I believe he is neither of those however he is not an angel or perfect in any way.  He has made mistakes, some big and some very big, but he has paid for them, dearly.

As far as I'm aware, there is nothing like this on any forum at the moment with a convicted killer - I think we should take full opportunity of this and allow it to grow organically, whilst we can.

Or he could just say no!

This is an opportunity for him and for us, to ask him directly, what happened and for him to reply in his own words.

I've told him I want no flannel, no self pity, no drama or fanciful replies... I want him to answer the question directly, in his own words, keeping it very simple and addressing the question, only.  It's within his best interest to be honest, and I absolutely believe, his answers will be his truth of what happened before, during and after the murders.

I speak from experience AA, he answers what he wants to answer but not the difficult questions. I will send you some questions but I can predict in advance and whether he will answer each question or not - and pretty much that if he does, what his answer will be.

Offline Aunt Agatha

Re: ASK; JEREMY BAMBER
« Reply #51 on: May 21, 2020, 10:10:33 PM »
Bamber would have had copies of the documents relied on during his trial AA

What do you think his legal team had



Not In his cell he didn't. He had to go and look at them. They were not available to him 24/7.

When it was 'lights out', it literally was that!

Offline Aunt Agatha

Re: ASK; JEREMY BAMBER
« Reply #52 on: May 21, 2020, 10:15:21 PM »
I speak from experience AA, he answers what he wants to answer but not the difficult questions. I will send you some questions but I can predict in advance and whether he will answer each question or not - and pretty much that if he does, what his answer will be.



You don't need to, I trust what you say.

I think it's about time he gave a no barrs hold interview.. By his oposers.

The supporters are satisfied therefore the CT cannot do, without bias, what we have suggested he do here.

It's you who he needs to convince of his innocence and correct any inconsistencies within the case.

If he says no, I'll be extremely disappointed in him, however, it may be the fact that it's me calling him to do it.  The CT would def refuse me lol.

Offline Nicholas

Re: ASK; JEREMY BAMBER
« Reply #53 on: May 21, 2020, 10:59:30 PM »

 I have spoken to him upon his release of punishments in jails, through his friends inside dying, during his attack

So it was you he was on the phone to when he was attacked by another inmate ?
Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

Offline Nicholas

Re: ASK; JEREMY BAMBER
« Reply #54 on: May 21, 2020, 11:01:43 PM »
So, I got a feel for him, his personality and observed his reactions.  He has not come across as the person you perceive him to be.

As a murderer you mean - what do you perceive a murderer to be like AA ?
Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

Offline Nicholas

Re: ASK; JEREMY BAMBER
« Reply #55 on: May 21, 2020, 11:20:31 PM »
I've told him I want no flannel, no self pity, no drama or fanciful replies...

Is this how he normally is then AA ?
Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

Offline Nicholas

Re: ASK; JEREMY BAMBER
« Reply #56 on: May 21, 2020, 11:33:10 PM »

You're right to a degree, but the information I received had to come from Justice For All, not Jeremy during the beginning.


Why?

Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

Offline Caroline

Re: ASK; JEREMY BAMBER
« Reply #57 on: May 21, 2020, 11:35:46 PM »

You're right to a degree, but the information I received had to come from Justice For All, not Jeremy during the beginning.

They did not have access to everything either.

Therefore, my knowledge from actual case papers was very limited.

I had the basics, yes, but I was not allowed everything.

Things have changed.

How come Jeremy arranged for Mike T to have his case papers? He must have had access to them so why didn't he give them to you?

Offline Nicholas

Re: ASK; JEREMY BAMBER
« Reply #58 on: May 21, 2020, 11:45:22 PM »


You're failing to look at things from the early 90's. I didn't 'campaign' , how were we supposed to find other supporters etc.

Am referring to your knowledge of the case AA which has nothing whatsoever to do with campaigning or the ‘90’s or other supporters
Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

Offline Nicholas

Re: ASK; JEREMY BAMBER
« Reply #59 on: May 21, 2020, 11:48:38 PM »
I was not his lawyers and I genuinely believed in the justice system then and that this terrible wrong would be righted.

Yes you’ve explained you went as a plus one for something to eat in London and apparently got talking to someone who worked at the law firm who was representing him.

When did you first hear about a miscarriage of justice ?



Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation